It tells that our opinion, our article 5 of our constitution, that people can say a lot of things even though they are completely wrong, that they uphold in court. and that s what happened here. nobody can defend himself or herself against something like that. and by the way, i already. that, too, i told five years ago. mr hocke is a regional leader. he s not the main figure in germany, but, yes, he is an important figure, but he s not as bad as left extremist media permanently. so. so hang on a minute. ..defames him. i just want to get this straight in my head, then. you re telling me that a court declared that this man could legally be described as a fascist. he is the leader of a significant afd branch. and so could you. and i could call you a fascist, too. no, but ijust want to know whether you re comfortable serving alongside fascists? well, i m not uncomfortable because it comes from a left