approaches vice president pence and says, wouldn t it be cool to have the power to not certify the election, wouldn t you want to have that power if the people out there, the trump voters wanted you to have it, wouldn t it be great to push to it the house? you see in that scene in the book. the pence scenes are many. you see pence in a sense going back to that quayle conversation, the same arguments laid out by quayle and pence s lawyers and advadvisors. you only have the constitutional duty to count the votes. just count the votes. robert, one of the most iconic pieces of reporting from your last book is the taped conversation with donald trump about just how much he really did know about covid, that he knew it was deadly, that he knew that very early on, and he proceeded to lie to the country. my question is, are there tapes from the interviews in this book? and would you consider releasing any of them? well, from our interviews,