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Dispute. Now turning attention to the ron johnson letter if i may. Yes. On august 31st, Senator Johnson is getting ready to travel to ukraine on September 5th with senator with murphy. And he wanted johnson wanted the aid released so he calls the president and sought permission to be the bearer of good news. Right. The president said im not ready to lift the aid. They had this Senator Johnson, he writes a tenpage letter, very detailed, and he gives some remarkable detail and i would like to read it. Its on page 6. I this is Senator Johnson speaking, he said i asked him whether there was some kind of arran arrangement where ukraine would take some action and the hold would be lifted. Without hesitation, Senator Johnson says, President Trump immediately denied such an arrangement existed and he started cursing. He said, no way. President trump said no way. I would never do that. Who told you that . And Senator Johnson goes on to say that President Trumps reactionnt here was adamant, vehe

Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191209 19:18:00

and there s a lot of instances of that where ambassador sondland recalls one thing and other witnesses recall another. sondland is a witness, is a he s a bit of an enigma, say that s way. he was, you know, pretty certain inas his deposition that the security assistance wasn t linked to anything and then he submitted an addendum sentence. i call that the pretzel sentence. even in that addendum or supplement or whatever it s called, you know, it s talk tokn him and her and anyway, sondland ends with, you know, i presumed. right. wasn t really any firsthand information. right. we don t have a lot of firsthand information here, is that

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