been around for generations. dana: president biden finding a role with farmers and ranchers. he s taking them at the meat and poultry industry looking to break up control by some of the biggest processors. joining us now is brent johnson, president of iowa farm bureau and scott blubaugh, acoma farmers union president. how long has concern been around in terms of anti-competitiveness and meat-packing? a long time. around the turn-of-the-century this issue is very prevalent. slowly, for last 40 years, we have seen an increase in consolidation in the industry and market power being concentrated so much. this is a process that has been going on for 40 years. we are at the breaking point.