Dr. Eberhardt that association between blackness and crime makes its way into all of our minds. Soledad im soledad obrien. Welcome to matter of fact. Today, a look at the pivotal role South Carolina plays in president ial politics. Earlier this year we visited the state and spoke to college of charleston professors h. Gibbs knotts and jordan ragusa, coauthors of first in the south why South Carolinas president ial primary matters. Who do you guys think will win it from the democratic side . Id be very surprised if biden doesnt win the South Carolina primary. And that could be enough to get the momentum to be able to get the nomination. Soledad both men accurately predicted joe biden would win the states primary and also his partys nomination. But neither gibbs or ragusa could have predicted just how close the race would be between Lindsey Graham and Jamie Harrison who are now virtually deadlocked with a little more than two weeks until election day. Weve spoken with senator graham in t