Biden. but if you go back and look at their social media some of their web statements, they indicate they did in fact meet with vice president joe biden at that time. and when you trace it back you see there was a meeting that was on the official white house visitors log in one room and joe biden s office was at next door. to me this is extremely troubling of course because what it means is there trying to conceal who joe biden is actually meeting with her there other examples miranda has cited from ukraine, kazakhstan, this is a pattern paired with political figures are trying to hide who they are meeting with, especially when those officials are business partners or prospective business partners of their family members, that timmy is hugely important evidence to show what is really going on in the scheme. maria: miranda? absolute peter spot on. it is the secrecy really and the cover-up and the denials that tells you a lot about what joe