And now a former diversity trainer is blowing the whistle and saying these seminars are killing us. former diversity trainere an eric smith joins me now. all right. so, eric, you know, i have noicj probleoinow.m with diversity. w diversity is great. but why are these silly training sessionits? such a problem? well, it s not really diversity how we know it, right? it s diversity of bodies. yes. of colors, of ethnicities. but one thought and that thought abides by a particularss narrative that basically says any problem, basical a black pet is because of racism. any proble m? so when you were doing these training sessions, what were you discovering and why did it make you come forward you t? ect i well, this was a while ago when i was a diversity officer, and i realized how useless it was because, well, a, you can t really compel people to do certain things or think certain things. you can t be a thought. policeyo a when it comes to the.