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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:24:00

he ll pursue it like he did with alvin bragg. anthony, you worked under merrick garland in the justice department while is these investigations were going on. let s focus on fulton county, on georgia, and the mug shot we saw last night. if you had to rank these in terms of seriousness for donald trump they re all serious, let s be clear about that. yeah. but the peril in georgia feels pretty extreme here. that s exactly right. let s play this out. because, assuming he somehow returns to the white house, the georgia case is sticks, right? it is pardon proof. that s why this one poses the most critical thing against donald trump. i want to go back to something that michael steele just said. he says the legal system is working as it should. that s exactly right, it is working as it should. i think the reason we are seeing such a reaction online to this

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:09:00

bluff for cheseboro, setting the trial for october 23rd. the other 18 defendants will probably have their cases severed. the reason cheseboro did this, he is betting that willis team will not be ready to try this complex case in a short order. but it is likely that the prosecutors are going to be more prepared than cheseboro s team. remember, they ve been doing this for 2 1/2 years. fani willis said this trial, this case was going to be imminent back in january. in the last several months, she s been getting new evidence. she s been getting new witnesses to flip. they re going to be more prepared, i think, at trial than cheseboro and his lawyers will. yeah. you know, mimi, there are so many questions to ask here about what you would do if you were an attorney managing all of donald trump s cases, all of donald trump s attorneys. i don t know that many viewers understand just the great weight, the great burden that is

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:05:00

did not raise their hands. let s bring in our legal panel. state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg. mimi roca, attorney for new york. and lisa ruben, outside the courthouse in fulton county. lisa, i ll start with you at the courthouse in fulton county and what you saw last night. the former president of the united states, with great fanfare, with a motorcade and tracking with wall-to-wall media coverage, his plane landing and leaving. but he was really only in this for a few minutes, was booked, 6 3 , 215 were the numbers provided by him. he was not measured and weighed. strawberry blonde hair in his description there on the booking sheet. what was it like to be around it last night? what do you see coming now? the mugshot is this first step. what lays ahead? reporter: you know, willie, let s talk first about what lays ahead. because on monday, we have one of the most decisive days in this case or any of the criminal

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 10:50:00

electoral hopes of republicans in the midterm elections. it is going to be a big factor again coming up in 2024. those candidates on the stage the other night were all over the place. tim scott said, i want a federal law. we can in the allow abortion to be taking place in blue states either. basically making the case against federalism. yeah. when he said that he would sign literally the most conservative bill that he could find, that was in an interview with me. i at one point said, is that six weeks? he agreed that was on the table. even ron desantis, who signed that bill, says he was proud to sign it but signed it in the dead of night in florida. couldn t say on the debate stage that he wanted to sign a federal six-week ban. so all of them are being pushed to the right here. trump is perhaps one of the people who is a little bit more, we could say, liberal on this issue, though it is not liberal at all. but this is a problem that i hear about often from republican operatives. the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:19:00

count against you in federal or state court. dave aronberg, you work in this area every day. talk about just the tremendous cost that criminal defendants, especially white collar criminal defendants, have to, you know the checks they have to write to lawyers. you look at somebody like cheseboro. you look at somebody like jenna ellis. you look at some of the minor players even on the, you know, the county level that tried to get involved in the fake elector scheme. how do, for instance, kathleen latham, scott hall, misty hampton, these people we really haven t heard of, how do they afford their legal bills? if they don t afford their legal bills, is that one reason we might see them moving quickly, as lisa suggested, to try to get this case behind them? joe, i think it was part of

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