Please give me your speaker card prior to speaking. Additionally there are sign up list at the table for those who would like to be added to the mailing list. Commissioner steven adams, dooley, monetta white, paul tour sarkissian, commissioner irene riley. General Public Comment allows members of the public to comment generally on the matter of commissions purview and not on todays agenda and agenda items for future consideration. Do we have any members of the general public today that would like to comment on any matters that are not on the agenda . Is there any additional Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. We should give a shout out to all of our tv viewers. Weve been getting fan mail all month and we want to let them know that we love them. We have no competition with land use. We are in an open time slot today. So for people out there watching us. Lets move on. Item no. 3 is approval of the august 10, 2015, regular meeting minutes. Do we have a motion . I motion to approve. Second. I second. Commissioner adams made a motion, commissioner riley seconded. All in favor say, aye. Aye. Any opposed . Item no. 4. Discussion and possible action to make recommendations to the board of supervisors on bos file no. 150270 public works code contractor parking plan. This ordinance amends the public works code to require a contractor parking plan as a Condition Precedent for approval of excavation permits for major work that is 30 conservative calendar days or longer and specified temporary street space occupancy permits for construction work. I have a presentation. Good afternoon, commissioners, my name is jess montejano. As i have sure we know the construction is booming here in San Francisco and the shear amount of construction in our corridor is causing quality of life impacts for residents in our neighborhood and our Small Businesses and our commercial corridor. The genesis of this legislation came from constituents in our district. District 2 had the highest number of Residential Construction and parking permits in the city. Especially owners along chess nut and union as well. We know the scarce amount of parking especially for parking that is vacant for hours and days at a time. We wanted to come up with a proposal to remedy some of the problems. We definitely feel the city can be more proactive to let the residents know about the impacts to residents and we can do better with that. We teamed up with her initially when we first introduced this legislation back in march and have added supervisors wiener and breed and kim to the legislation as well. We have support to make it through the board. As brian was stating this amended the construction for the parking plan for on street space for parking permits issued by the department of public works and also includes new fees to really help with the enforcement of this plan to ensure that our contractors in our neighborhood are following the permits that were stated in the plans that are going to be submitted to the city. The components of this structure parking plan the contractor will now permit includes the following the number of parking permits and the average number of employees at the site. The timeline and phasing of the project and the requirement of the contractor to notify the department of any unexpected changes. It also requires the contractor to use carpooling or park side such as parking garages instead of taking up valuable Street Parking. There is also a component in the plan that mandates the contractor come up with a proposal for how they will make on Street Parking available to the general public and to Business Owners by 4 00 p. M. Each day if that space is going to be used after that time. When we are working with supervisor christian and cohen we want to focus outside of our traditional from our office which is in a residential neighborhood and they want to expand it to encompass more of Business Commercial as well and we had an amendment issued by the Land Use Committee that includes pdr districts and citywide. That was one of the concerns of the commission. We are open to hearing additional construction that should be included as well. Additionally the last component of the plan gives dpw some flexibility to request any Additional Information that they find important to have as part of the construction parking plan that the contractors will be submitting. Additionally all of this information is made publically available to dpw so any resident or any owner of any part of the city can see the parking plan and see how this is impacting their neighborhood. We believe this is a straight forward proposal. We work close with sf mta and contractors on this proposal and we have the majority in support and some of the contractors arent too happy about the fee increases but before the legislation we did a budget Analyst Report that shows all the permit fees per capita with other cities are relatively low so they can stand to be increased a little bit. We understand whats going on right now but most of the times those contractors pass through the additional permit increases to the customer or the client they are working with on behalf and we believe them to be minimal. The legislation today is supported by all the departments and i understand on friday there were some concerns and i had a chance to review this today since we were on recess. I will be happy to walk through any of those questions and answer any concerns that you may have. All right. Thank you very much. Commissioner, adams . First off i want to thank supervisor farrell and cohen for this piece of legislation. This is awesome. This is something in my opinion long over due especially with all the construction going on and i appreciate that you are looking at commercial districts as well as residential because thats where a big part of the problem is right now. I was in the valley a couple weeks ago and they had a few signs up there but no construction going on. My question is what department is going to approve this plan . The department of public works. Right now most contractors how i understand the process they will go to sf mta. They will come up with a proposal and sf mta and manages and overseas that process. We are primarily working with those two departments to come up with the proposal and how it can be implemented correctly. I think the biggest thing for dpw was to have permanent funding for enforcement and limitation. I think we all believe that the success of the legislation would come with the enforcement and the additional fees will help with that. Do you know if there is a minimum amount of Parking Spaces they can take . Right now our requisite, one parking space for 30 days. If there is more than one, they will have to do that as well. We didnt want to necessarily slow you know some projects and especially good projects that need to happen in our neighborhood, but at the same time we needed to institute some sort of balance for the residents. Here is an idea too and i was thinking about this a couple weeks ago. Do you have these School Playgrounds that they use for parking in the summer time when a lot of this stuff is going on. We can get something in there and maybe it would be a win win for the schools. Use those as a parking spot instead of taking up Street Parking. Yeah, i think thats a fine idea. When we were crafting this legislation, we had to be really mindful in what was in our jurisdiction. Obviously School Parking is a great idea. It would be in the jurisdiction. School district and what they choose to do there. What will be added that we plan to introduce at the board is another requirement that states that a contractor has to use the onsite garage parking before they take on an on Street Parking space. Especially in our district we saw folks with park is available on their garage parking and using parking in front. That didnt make sense. Commissioner dooley . I wanted to ask about it mentions having them say how many employees they have. Its certainly been my experience in north beach, pretty much everybody wants to have their own truck there all the time so they can run out and get their tools. Is there someway of limiting maximum amount of street spaces. I believe they can take more than 60 on Street Parking permits. Thats the threshold we have now. At the same time we hear clearly from residents and Business Owners that the city needs to be more proactive in planning and letting citizens know pro actively whats happening in their neighborhood and no process and no notification exist. We think this is a really helpful first step into providing that plan outside of our traditional noticing requirements that we have on the books now. Is there some kind of incentive that encourage carpooling or truck pooling amongst these folks so not every Single Person working on the site has to bring their own vehicle. Yes, one of the components we have on the plan is the contractor has to submit to dpw whether they have carpooling options. So thats a requirement of the current parking plan we are working on now. I would add some gray area here. There were some difficulties working with the City Attorney in what we could restrict versus what we couldnt restrict. What this is is our best attempt to provide the parameters and pro activity for the contractors about what is happening in their neighborhood. I also have a question about if they arent using a space from 4 00 on, i find that a lot of the spaces arent being used at all during the day. Those are 104 00 p. M. Our prime Business Hours where those spaces could be really used. I know a lot of residential space the sign says if no construction is started by noon, i would urge you to roll that back to an earlier hour. I think thats something that the cosponsors would be happy to look at. We were trying to find that balance and from the residents especially their coming home after work, the traditional 4 00 hour. They can understand in the morning construction but for the proposal that makes sense. The last question. I have a pile of notes. Its what we are here for. The storage issue. I know when they went to a site, they stored large pipes for weeks at a time taking on an entire block of parking. So it didnt seem clearly that it was not going to happen. That could still happen is kind of how i saw it, but that is a real problem if they do that. Im looking back here. It looks like on section 4. 20, section 8 there. One of the components of the parking plan is how the contractor, excuse me, its no. 7. Sorry. I was wrong. Its no. 8. It requires that they at least submit as part of their plan as to the material of the storage and pipes and Construction Materials are going to be used as permitted Parking Spaces. That is identified in the plan. What i will do before this makes it to the board on tuesday, dpa drafted up one page about the project and parking plan. I will be sure you see it to be sure there isnt anything on there. I understand when they put materials in the parking space and they are going to be using them soon. My experience has been that they are not using them soon. They are just sitting there for a month or two and eventually they are going to be used. So i would like to see some kind of time limit for how long they can use it for storage. Thats what we are looking at and providing this plan making it available to residents and Business Owners on the website, having a point of contact, i think with additional fees that are going to help with enforcement and this kind of pro activity and contract the Business Owners will have because the residents and Business Owners know their own neighborhood. Thank you for bringing this forward. It is really necessary and really happy to see something move. Yeah, of course i appreciate that. Commissioner Ortiz Cartagena . Thank you. This is way over due. The only question, did you reach out to the parking Sector Companies and explore any ideas . I know they have with the parking companies. Are you talking about a specific kind . Just to get their expertise . Yes. One of the things, or one of the components of the parking plan which is the contractor evaluating whether they can use kind of off Street Garage parking. All of those sites and majority are own by sf mta and we can host Construction Materials or permit out those spaces instead of the on Street Parking spaces as well. Okay. Director . Through the president , so a quick question as i couldnt really, i wasnt clear in reading this. Is this being applied to private contractors or is this parking plan also being applied to city like when we do excavation for water pipes . Definitely all of the above. Anyone that received an occupancy permit, they are all going to have to submit this construction parking plan as a prerequisite for receiving that permit. One more question. 5 days notice is pretty short. We need to have more like 2 weeks so if its going to have a major impact on a commercial district, people can figure out what to do. Its got to be at least 2 weeks. That does that seem like the overwhelming thought from the commission . I would prefer 30 days. The most as possible. I think we take this to heart. We understand one of the most important things in business is certainty and knowing whats going to happen on your storefront and corridor. Well definitely run that to ground. I have to better understand from dpw and the timeline they have in giving out these projects. I can imagine maybe the construction project in district 2, someone just wanted to get it and have a contract maybe tomorrow. With other projects, im sure it takes long to mapping out what the project is going to look at but we can have more flexibility on that. I think it would be nonsubstantive. So it wont cause any delay. I would be surprise anything that impacts parking gets a permit with lead time with more than a couple of days. The contractor might say i mailed them out 5 days in advance and if it happens on a monday, we dont see that for a couple days later and you only find out because the parking spots are gone. We got noticed by cal trans 2 days after the construction occurred saturday and sunday night. All the residents were pissed off. They said we noticed everybody per the legal statute. So there was a case where it got hung up in the mail and the government transaction didnt happen and none of us got notice. I dont think 5 days is enough to allow for what happens from the time of leaves the person thats putting the stamps on it to get it to the person who should get it. I think you are exactly right and thats a reasonable request. John maloney the our City Attorney on that request and those that are supporting this legislation as well. I would just add to that i will be break back in front of you in about a month or so. So it isnt their standard mailing anymore. So well be able to get it out to the Business Owners through email. It tends to be going out to the landlord. Most of us never see what the landlord gets because we are all tennants, commercial tennants but all residential tennants. But the noticing needs to go directly to the tennants as well as the landlord. And the language in this particular item keeps saying neighborhood. Neighborhood tends to ring residential. We have so many mixed use corridors here that it should specifically include neighborhood and i think we have some recommended language here about how to call it commercial tennants. Neighborhoods, commercial corridors and or Business Districts right now. We can recommend some wording to you. Yeah. I got at the mail from regina. We are happy to include that. That makes sense and that is definitely our intent. What we heard from small Business Owners is we need to be notified. Commissioner sarkissian . I would like to join my colleagues this congratulating you. Thank you. Just coming back to the tenant issue, i believe that the ground and second floor should be included. Okay. Thats not a problem. Thank you. Commissioners, any other comments . Commissioner riley . Hi, when you determine to noticed the neighborhood, where do you get the information. Commissioner dwight just said that usually the notice sent to the landlord . Yes. Is it possible to get the information of all the tennants . Yes, i believe so. That was our intent. We are happy to work with the director and our City Attorney to match that intent and all the tennants that are affected. I believe its 300 feet in our legislation. We were sensitive to some of the cost included because of the permit fees included as well. Thats the intent. We want our neighbors and Business Owners to know whats going on. Thats the plan where we are going to have a Contact Person and they are always available and they will have a point of reference to go online to check on whats happening in their neighborhood. They get planning. Planning has to notify owners and tennants of projects now. So when you get your notification in the mail, it says to current occupant. It doesnt even say the landlords name. Its whoever is living in that unit. Thats how they notify you. Thats good. Commissioners, anymore comments or questions before Public Comment . Okay. Is there any additional Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners, do you have any other comments or questions . Jess, thank you very much. Thank you very much for your support. Director . Well, i think timing wise can you just sort of review with us since we had some discussion about possible amendment what timing wise is. This is agendaized as an action item. You might want to take action on it with a proposed recommendation. Okay. Do we want to simply make a motion, read out the recommendations . Yes. Okay. And real quick to provide that quick timeline. It got out of land use at the last land use on july 27th. It will be on board agenda for the 8, but we have a couple weeks between now to come up with what should be simple fixes to match the needs and desires of the commission. Okay. Would someone like to make a motion . I would like to make a motion on this piece of legislation and i would like to hear what amendments we would like to add to it. We have a list of them. Yes. Do we need to read them into the record or can we just enter them into the record. There are seven recommendations. There are seven recommendations and the only one who hasnt had enough discussion, but making the recommendation is i think recommendation no. 1, just making sure that the parking plan. The alternative parking locations definitely apply to when commissioner dooley talks about the number of employees that they are also making sure they are presenting their parking plan where their employees are going to be parking. Yes. But we could work through the seven recommendations that we have presented to the Supervisors Office. I just bulleted them out in your binder, but those are the specific recommendations. And storage to keep an eye on that. They had that in their no. 8, the storage. Yes, the timeframe of the storage and commissioner dooley you also, i dont know how much, if this needs to be in the legislation. You said noon . It should be noon instead of 4 p. M. 00 p. M. You might want to note in commercial districts if it makes it easier. I think there is some wiggle room because with the Residential Construction we are seeing but i think dpw has a policy in place and i will come back to double confirm with their team that any contractor can put this upon themselves if that parking is going to be used for 2 days put up a sign and let them know if that parking will be available to the public. We would like to do that. Right. All right. I think easily enough commissioners because we have the seven recommendations that were presented to the Supervisors Office pretty much specifically address them. So i can make the motion that i would like to make a motion to approve this legislation with our seven recommendations and we can just attach these seven to the legislation. Perfect. Great. Do we have a second . I second it. Roll call . City clerk commissioner adams, yes, commissioner dooley, yes, commissioner dwight . Yes, cartagena, yes, riley, yes. Success. Thank you for your outreach. I know you spoke to several merchant groups. This is a great piece of legislation and i want to thank you again for your outreach too. You heard from a lot of people on this. Yes. Its a big issue citywide. Thank you very much for your support and i will see you in about a month with our neighborhood notification notice. We are happy about that. Thank you. All right. Onto our next celebrity presentation. Item no. 5, discussion and possible action to make a final recommendation on file no. 150790 planning code establishing a new citywide Transportation Sustainability fee. We have adam varat. Good afternoon. Its great to come back. Speaking of good pieces of legislation. As you know we came before you a couple weeks ago and you gave us food feedback and we have information for you. I believe this document was distributed to you all and im just going over that quickly. Its just to read a couple of simple pages. The first page is questions raised by the commission, second page a few keypoints and the last one is comparison that breaks the text down into a more readable form so you can see some of the changes we are proposing. I will start this and run through it quickly and happy to answer any questions you may have. One of the questions that came up were about the new construction trigger proposed to the tsf and how that would apply to pop up retail which generally these days may include shipping containers. A couple examples that came up were proxy and the yard. I mentioned the yard and mission bay project that is temporary and the impact fees because mission bay has their own set of rules in this situation, but proxy was treated like a permanent use and whatever fees were applicable at that time. I wanted to go over that. In terms of shipping containers you can get them in various sizes. The largest is 8 x 40. Theoretically you can get two full large size shipping containers on the lot and that would be less than 800 feet before you trigger that fee. Also reminder that tsf like the tdf is a one time fee when the new use is being created and that basically lives as a credit on that site. If you change the use in the future to an even more intensive use or if you demolish and rebuild or replace, you do get credit for that. Something else that is interesting about small pop ups is generally speaking they may have this container space or some other type of small Modular Space but they typically use a lot of outdoor space as a primary area for seating and that space does not count towards the fee. Just as if you have a restaurant, that area is not counted towards the fee because the fee is calculated using the area which measures from the exterior walls. Any space outside is not covered by this and currently on tdf or any of our impact fees because they are all calculated through the floor area. Another question that came up is where does the 5,000 square footage. It outlined the proposal there for the change of use to take down 800 but create a Small Business policy credit along with the parking credit and keep that 3,000 square foot threshold for that credit and at that time there was some conversation with the Small Business community about whether or not 3 thousand was too small and raised to 5 thousand and there are numerous place in the planning code. To give you most of our commercial parking controls and areas where we require parking still are not triggered until the use is 5,000 square feet. In the Downtown District in the ground floorless than 5,000 square feet. They are exempt from fees and fars to add how much you can build on the site. In typical districts, its up to two floors and some allow up to three which is about 5,000 square feet maximum on a typical lot. Similarly tying back to the rg3,000 square feet number. That these businesses are a finer grain. The vast majority is 3,000. Again, we also have a conditional use permit authorization required for a certain size. Depending on the district you are in, it could be 5,000 or 10,000. In china town similarly the lots are restricted to 5,000 and we have a conditional use requirement in Grocery Stores if they are over 5,000 feet. Thats kind of a proxy for a Small Business. Obviously a Small Business can be measured in different ways if its area, number of employees, establishment and so on. In terms of the fee, the area is the easiest to use for us. There are questions about other businesses. As an example i quickly through in some existing businesses. I wont go over that. You can look at that at your leisure. Those numbers are approximate. Onto page two, just a couple of key points which we touched on last time which is the changes we are proposing are basically benefits to Small Business with the tdif now and the existing area plans. The only thing changing in the other direction is the fees girting higher getting higher and we are bringing the residential in that category which is not today. Other than that, every change we have made is a positive. If that means the fee will apply lessor there is much more likelihood for the credit for the use that was there. If you go to the last page at the table that just outlines that point which is if you look at the different factors of impact fees. We have three columns here. One for the area plans, one for tidf or tsf. As we talked about the number of land use categories which is an important issue in our area plans is 3 and now its 9. Down to 3. Tids is unique in that and we wanted to remove them. Small business is not in our areas. And limit tdif in the policy credit pool. That limitation would be taken away and it would be a permit limitation. And in our area plans all new construction trigger the fee except for tdip now to 800 square feet. Tidf and tsf 800. Small business and adding the dwelling unit requirements. We just wanted to go over that information with you and give you chance to ask any other questions or comments you like and we are available for any questions you may have. Commissioner adams . Thank you very much for this. This really cleared it up for me. I very much appreciate the impact fee comparison. I like this. You did a great job on this. Thank you. Its definitely something i can support. How is the prime rib at 360 square feet. Thats a lot of prime rib. Thats big. About the size of a bag factory it turns out. Director . So, commissioners, i just want to provide you with a little bit of information. I had a conversation around 1 00 with lisa pagan and oed and doesnt have the ability to oh pine on it. Some feedback that ben hoot an, the industry person. One of the feedback from ben is that with the nexus study takes a look at retail and retail at mostly daytime travel and the nighttime industry, you can look at it. There is a high number of individuals using it, but also there is less Public Transportation available at that time. So from the nighttime industry perspective, paying into the fee, if they are over 5,000 square feet for an entertainment establishment they are paying a fee where they are not Getting Service much return. So in terms of the dealing with the consideration of if you are going to consider putting forward in a final recommendation whether the consideration for the Small Business exemption should be 5,000 square feet. That was one particular feedback. Then, the other was that with the 800 square feet for new development if retaining the 5,000 square feet is what is going to be retained especially looking at Neighborhood Commercial Development for mixed use building that we have some pretty sizable ones in hayes valley but if you are planning to do one in these respects, could there be consideration for neighborhood commercial new development where its again sort of working with something simple, a flat 5,000 square feet Small Business exemption for commercial space, new development, nonnew development. Those are put forward for some potential ideas to give consideration to. Its not to say thats officially where oewe is, but to give that some thought. Right. Well, i think as we discussed last time, the one beneficial caveat is that its a change of usage issue. The limit comes into effect if its the change of use. If its the same, it doesnt affect it. Anyway, we just put it out there. Any other questions or comments . Then, if you dont mind. Can you briefly go over how office space works in the downtown and opportunity to the high rises . In terms of fees . Yes. Large office projects, lets say anything over 50,000 square feet, whether its downtown or anywhere, there are certain fees that are going to apply. Obviously tdf is going to apply. You get into the job housing linkage fee which is triggered at 25,000 square feet. And the 50,000 square feet with a child care fee if not provided. If you are downtown, there is a downtown open space fee as well. If you are not downtown, if you are in eastern neighborhood in soma, doing this kind of project, you would be subject to the eastern neighborhood impact fee. It depends on where you are exactly. There are various fees that those are subject to. Is that just for new development. Lets say you go into business and into a new building and you take 5,000 square feet and you grow and go to the next floor and the next floor and often the tenant improvement, discussions in tenant improvements are sometimes done by the property manager if they are expanding . If its just tenant to tenant there is no change of use. There is no new construction triggered. If you have a building, if you are in soma, but you are near downtown, on second or third street corridor and you have a warehouse that you want to convert to office. That would still apply. I think where the sum of this question comes from is whether there are exemption that are similar to the other exemption that were made for certain High Tech Companies moving into Central Market area and whether this just is a part of a bundle of fees and thing that would be negotiated, but in fact most of those developments were not change of use, probably. So this particular fee would not apply. It depends. So, if you are referring to the tax incentives that were created in the market, those are different. Right. If you have a project that have or going through the process of receiving a Development Agreement and that is a separate process that takes the project away from the codes and negotiated with the city. Obviously from a negotiating perspective, the city uses what is required. Its not completely thrown out. But thats a much higher bar. They are doing a Development Agreement while what happens more often now is not something that happens more often. Its kind of a separate beast that we put in the code. Okay. Commissioners, any other questions or comments . Adam from the planning department. I want to clarify the point with lisa and im happy to follow up. One thing to red remember about this fee is it goes to Capital Improvement and not operating improvement. The improvement for the bus system can help with the speed of the bus service and the program about when it runs. This fee in particular as the impact fees are tied to the built Capital Improvement. Okay. So we can feel better about paying. Great, any other comments . Okay. Is there any additional Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Do we have require any action . Well, i think commissioners, from your recommendations at the last meeting and the action that you took you wanted to get more information in terms of whether 5,000 exemption was satisfactory. If you wanted to consider making a recommendation for more as a policy decision for you in terms of whether you received enough information to finalize that decision and then also you wanted a little bit more clarity around the 800 square foot and the impact. So i havent heard much conversation in relationship to that. Again, home of those kinds of projects are going to happen and so its an evaluation for you in terms of that a little bit of money going into sf mtas budget, or what that may mean for those Small Businesses and just another kind of as we often hear about stream lining and various things on that end. As a practical matter, it seems to me there is a fair amount of inertia around coalescing around this 5,000 feet even if there are urging of more or less. I would imagine that it would be somewhat difficult to change that inertia at this point. Also we would want to consider where the diagram overlaps. How many things are really going to be over 5,000 square feet for Small Businesses. Of those how many will be triggered and used. I feel that ultimately over those intersections of things there are very small projects. To change the inertia behind this for an unspecified but likely small population of projects is highly unlikely. So we can of course make a recommends if we want, but i think any recommends other than 5,000 carries its own arbitrary nature and all we are doing is advocating for more. The question is where do you draw the line. Adam has been very thorough in providing something we all know and love and that their indeed there is one kind of case here where or one example that a company is larger than 5,000. Certainly it bears witness to the idea that they are less than 5,000 feet. Its where to pick your battle. Right. Where is the reasonableness plays in. Commissioner adams . I agree with everything you just said. And i got to thank you guys. When i read these comparisons, you answered my questions and im more than happy to support this piece of legislation. So i would make a motion to go ahead and approve this. Just want to throw out one last thing and reflecting on elisas the conversation. In terms of the 8,000 square feet, any variability in terms of permanent and nonpermit structure. Throwing it out there before be get to finalize and the policy for you for consideration. More from our i would say Neighborhood Economic Development in trying to activate different spaces. So, and again, the space that proxy is on, that is city owned and eventually the city to be building on it. But when that will be. That space is not intended to be permanently used as a space as it is now. Great. Are these activations, oftentimes these activations involve the city. Is there a case where an activation like that would be subject to a negotiated situation not like a very large construction project . No. Not really. Ultimately the planning code treads everything from a land use perspective as permanent except for those things that can be permitted as a temporary use. That is very limited. Such as christmas tre there is nothing to pass with taking applications now should the ballot pass. If the ballot does pass, the application process will have to be amended because Historical Preservation will be engaged in part of that process. So there is interest from the Supervisors Office. They have been contacting us in terms of wanting to begin to do their nominations. So i would like to start out with the process of working with the nominees that each supervisor has. Im not really opening it up just yet for allowing the individual businesses to initiate an application that would be forwarded, but i would like to have you give some consideration and i will have follow up conversations with epa of you over the next week. If we do start taking these applications starting september, last part of september, that means we can officially start hearing it the october meetings. Is your preference to schedule these items to be heard at one particular meeting in a month or to hear you know at each meeting. Why dont we see how they roll in . Okay. I have no idea. I have some idea, but no stated ideas how fast its going to happen. I think in moving in 2013, where am i . Sorry. I am somewhere else. 2016 then we will take a look at, i will work with building in terms of meeting Time Availability and what that means if we need to have an additional meeting. I dont think this is a meeting that needs to be televised. So that will open up our ability to have more flexible dates available. So if we have it in room, i think 412 . Whats the one . 408. What will happen at a meeting where we review. These will be legacy businesses that have already passed through the application. Correct . Presumably they have checked all the boxes on the application. I believe we will see businesses that qualify under the rule. So the only thing that would happen here. We are not going to have a huge debate about anchor and bakery. Im not clear what the discussion will be other than to say, thats very nice. Im glad these people have applied and presuming there is no financial request which many of them will come without financial request, i believe. Then i dont think there is going to be a lot of discussion. I would you are thely encourage us to acknowledge them at this meeting rather than not, why not. We are using this platform as an acknowledgment as its great. You won the award. You applied and you are approved. What i would like to see is how many people applied, what are the complications, why wouldnt there be anything but acknowledgment and the brief discussion here. I have a question about the timeline rolling out when individual businesses can apply. You are saying only businesses that are recommended by supervisors will first be looked at. Right now its pure staffing. I mean, its just having being able to have some control of the floodgate at the staffing level so that we are working. There needs to be review, discussion time with the businesses that are nominated by the supervisor or the mayor in terms of whats in the application. You know are the applications complete. So and then assembling and getting the packets ready in time for you to review and agendaized and noticed. So really right now its really just trying to make sure that there are some realistic controls over what we are able to handle and then i also would expect, if history is any indication, supervisors are not going to spend a huge amount of time finding the nominations themselves. They are going to be to those i heard about and other businesses and here is the recommendation. Because supervisors are busy. They are working on limitation. To direct their limited staff to say, hey, go find me some legacy businesses. Its not going to work that way. There are others who may have their list already but i think the supervisors may respond to suggestions or interested parties. I think we dont need to unduly prepare for what we do not know whats going to happen. I would recommend that we see what happens initially and we can always react accordingly. I do think there is a lot of interest out there in terms of self initiation and until we have staff dedicated to this program. I want to make sure that staff is handling what is being nominated right now by the supervisors and not working and handling and facilitating the legislation that is not nominated by the supervisors until we have the adequate staff. Requesting acknowledgment of the legacy businesses other than requesting Financial Support for a business that is going out of business. I think its mostly people requesting acknowledgment. Its a restaurant in business for 25 years, a cleaning company in business for 25 years. At the end of the day we should have a very low bar for acknowledging these businesses that have been in business for 25 years or more. Who is to say the restaurant or cleaning business or brewery is more elegant or more worthy of being an elegant business wechl should stick to very objective thing when it comes to acknowledging those businesses because it is nothing but goodness to be bundled up to say this is a great business thats been around for a long time. The businesses that are in trouble and the business for the legislation. This legislation has two prongs, how do we acknowledge businesses that have been around for a long time. Thats a good market for the city. The other one is how do we assist businesses who are in dire straits. I think weve all acknowledged the funding available under this program is pretty limited when it comes to being in dire straits. So, those are going to be the exceptions and those are going to be the things that require perhaps more conversation. I just dont have any sense whatsoever to know how thats going to break out. I dont think we are going to have a land rush of people going, finally, im going to get some financial business. I would be completely wrong but if you are in that condition, you need a lot more than what this offers. Right. Well, currently there is no financial assistance. So that is not there until right. Thats the legislation. Right. So any application that comes through right now is subject to what is currently written, in law, in place. And whats the legislation and not the ballot measure. It would be up to the board of supervisors in making the nomination. Its up to them to give the consideration in terms of who and how they nominate and should that fund be there in the future, the prioritization of who they are nominating in relation to that as well. Because even if a business does apply through our office before the board of supervisors or the mayor nominates, that application gets to the supervisor or the mayor. Because they have to be nominated. But again, its a work flow issue even though we are not asking a lot of them but its still information. Its enough information to be tracking legislation and dealing with that and processing it and getting it ready for you. I just wanted to let you know im going to be very mindful as we start to learn this process. Whats going to be submitted in our applications, whats going to be involved with it to have a little bit of control right now until we have a staff person to really facilitate the program. Thats fine. If there is anyway we can assist with that, maybe that can help as well in terms of reviewing the applications. I think the ner term incentive for any supervisor is to celebrate how many legacy businesses they have in their district and to pat themselves and their businesses and those companies on the back for being part of San Franciscos legacy. It will clearly not be until after november election whether there is any movement trying to determine whether any of these businesses qualify and to what degree that would be helpful to them. So, again, i think the initial vetting is going to be very straight forward. I think that the candidates are probably going to be companies that are wellknown to us and its largely a pr sort of activity. Im just a little concerned. I understand where we are coming from. I agree we need to see our rolls out. Politics from what they are, there might be someone in a given district that may not be necessarily nominated by their supervisor. I would like to see in the future that a business could apply on their own. There is nothing in the legislation that passed or in the ballot measure that says that the supervisor who nominates, they can only nominate businesses from their district. Its the high probability because they have those relationships, but nothing precludes another supervisor from nominating a business that is not in their district. Does the rule allow only the supervisor and the mayor to make nominations or can the business person make the nomination . The law states that its just the mayor and board of supervisors who can nominate. There is no jurisdictional limitations in terms of the supervisor. Could it be as a potential not maybe wont happen. But i would not like to see any deserving business not nominated or put forward by their supervisor. I would have to think if the business wanted to be nominated and appealed to the supervisor for being nominated. Lets say an article in the chronicle about it. They can appeal to us. Im in Small Business. I have literally been there and they will not nominate me. I think i meet all the criteria. Then we would advocate on their behalf. Its not uncommon for businesses especially ietsz either if there is a cultural distinction about the business, other elements that they might have with a supervisor over their District Supervisor for other reasons. The legislation didnt spell out anything precluding and i hear what your concern is and i think that and the supervisors did say in our meetings with them that they would also like to they dont necessarily want to be in the position of only doing the nomination. That if businesses apply they would like to receive those applications and then decide. So, but an application, a business that might submit an application that hasnt first been nominated by the mayor or board of supervisors will not come before you. It has to come from the Mayors Office or the board of supervisors. The nomination. It has to come first and whether they look at it or it goes other way around or inform us we want to name x business and the staff reeps reaches out to that business and have them submit the application. Is there an opportunity where they can self nominate . Not as its currently written. But if they want to the nominated they can appeal to their supervisor. Rather than having it here. Well wait to see the first one. This is again why im saying i want to start off with some controls whether that business will call our office and we will have the conversation and one of the recommendations will be finding out do they have a relationship with the mayor or the board of supervisors to start off with, anyone of them and if they dont, working through the process, there can be organizations that they are associated with and have a relationship with. But clearly the nomination has to come from the mayor and or board of supervisors. When we have adequate staff, thats the kind of i think sort of kind of massaging and working with the businesses that will be able to do, but until that time. It will take up time. So i just want to have some controls. In the future, there is no reason why we cannot be, if a business says i heard about this program and want to be considered and we walk them through the process. I can imagine a few businesses that some might find objection. I can see that. I think maybe well cross that bridge when we get to it. Okay, any other commissioner comments or suggestions . Is there any additional Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. No action required. I dont believe. City clerk which brings us to item no. 7. Directors report. Commissioners, i wanted to bring to you, your attention for the gross receipts to help advise the city and outreach for the Business Community around to the transition into the new gross receipts. There is going to be a follow up meeting on thursday to kind of talk about give libtd a little bit of a preview on where things are in terms of how its going and the roll out and because in the law it does say that its how the city is meeting its revenue goals will affect sort of the percentages in materials of the payroll and the gross receipts. Who is on that committee from us . Okay. Commissioner adams. Okay. So a heads up on that. And beginning of september will be the official announcement of that well have a presentation for the commission. And then did want to bring to your attention that richard hall ran and learner. Richard hall ran with the department of building inspection, they are on the commission. They have started to meet and i have been invited to meetings to discuss about how we are going to be working the outreach and working with businesses and the Property Owners and the Appeals Commission to get prepared for supervisor tangs legislation. So i think thats going to be exciting to be a part of. And i will be forwarding to you. There are several bills at the state level that i just became aware of last week. One is looking at doing a similar kind of tax credit and deduction that the federal government has at the state level. Another is permanently implementing the dollar fee. It was sunset in 2018. Well make that additional dollar fee that we charge. A permanent dollar fee. This will be great for us because its helped fund our cast inspection program. So to help subsidize it. It hasnt passed yet. But we soon will be mandating the entry ways are dealt with. There are still other issues to be dealing with in terms of accessibility with not just the entry way that are equally as important to make sure the businesses are mitigating. There is still definitelily continuing e working with the subsidized section. I will leave it at that for my directors report unless there are any questions. No. Item 8. President s report. Item nine, we do not have a vicepresident s report. Item 106789 commissioner reports. I attended the negotiation with google business. They had about 300 people attend that event. It was very good. So thats all i have. Google did a great Small Business presentation. So i want to give her a shout out as well. Commissioners, any other items to report . Item 11. New business. Any new business . No. Item 126789 do 12. Do we have a motion for adjournment. I second. Get ready, here it comes. [ gavel ] [ meeting is adjourned ]
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