Community leaders and talked with federal investigators. Working on the ground. And a restaurant just four miles away from where Michael Brown was shot, he told ferguson restaurants, he is keeping a close eye on their time. I need to be here, you know. I was a little disturbed to see certain people questioning why i was here. Why would i be any place other than right here right now to talk to the people in this area who are deserving of our attention and we want to help as best we can. We also want to listen. That the main part of this trip. Listen to the main issues that you all are dealing with. Are there ways in which we can help. Just moments later, captain ron johnson, man charged with keeping the peace in ferguson, stopped by. My man. How you doing, sir. The attorney general of the United States telling captain johnson hes making a difference. But this isnt about photo ops. The attorney generals pushing a very real, very aggressive investigation in ferguson. Right now, about 40 fbi agents and federal prosecutors are working in ferguson. They conducted more than 200 interviews about the shooting. And conducted an independent autopsy. This attorney general isnt waiting around for the results of the local investigation. He is doing what he can to get justice for a family thats grieving. And today in ferguson, he plans to let them know it in person. Joining me now from ferguson, msnbc. Coms trimane lee, st. Louis alderman and frank, jr who represents a friend of Michael Brown and a witness in the shooting. Thanks for being here. A pleasure. Trimane, youve been covering the attorney general, what was it like on the ground . What was it like for this visit . People want to be heard. They feel like now that attorney general is here, they are not only being heard, but they are getting assurances that the investigation running parallel with the state investigation will be clear and transparent and that the federal government is here. The department of justice is watching. Now you know, alderman french said, and captain johnson, both were asked today about the impact of the attorney generals visit. I want to play you the answer. I think itll be a great impact. I think it will show that people of ferguson, people of st. Louis, people of our nation, this their voices are heard. That the highest office in this land is listening to their voices. And taking a look into the incident that happened. Do you agree with that, mr. Bosley . Oh, i agree. I think one of the things we are thankful for, is that attorney general is here because there is a lot of misinformation, insination and innuendo swirling around this case and it will take the federal government to come in here and sort this stuff out. What about you, alderman french, what is your view . I also think its a good thing for him to be here. The folks here have lost so much faith in their local prosecutor and local Police Department, that it really is going to take the federal government to step in and restore the faith. The attorney general arrived in ferguson to date but he is following the incident very closely. Its been reported that he wanted officers identity released earlier. He was opposed to releasing Surveillance Video of Michael Brown. Allegedly stealing from a convenience store. And he told his deputies quote, tell them to remove the damn tanks in ferguson last week. How big is the sense that the attorney generals invested in what happens there . Let me he ask you that, trimane. Oh, i think it is clear that he is invested. But one thing he did do and he has done in the past, he related his own experience as a black man. Not just as highest prosecutor in the land but as a black man about being stopped and stereotyped. For him and the people, he understands the whats being said. When you see a take rolling up in a city street and see a crowd of black folk being gassed and Police Officers with dogs. He understands their experiences. So i think that goes a long way. Now let me go back to you alderman french. You have been out there with the protesters. And theres been a lot of concern about the local prosecutors, local authorities. How important is the attorney general coming in, given the concerns in the community. Im not talking about those of us observing or coming in from the outside. But in the community, what does it mean to them that have expressed this concern about how local authorities might handle this investigation. Yeah, you know, there is almost no faith here in this local community that there is going to be a fair investigation and fair result from the county prosecutor. So having the attorney general come here personally is a strong statement that the federal government is looking to make sure the justice is served in this case. Whatever that may be. But also, we are still calling on the governor to reconsider and the point of special prosecutor. Because even comments made as soon as within the last 24 hours, it really endangered peoples faith that county prosecutor can actually try this case fairly. Now, let me go to you a minute, again, mr. Bosley. According to a published reports in the New York Times, your client, darian johnson, who was with Michael Brown when he was killed, was interviewed by the fbi and u. S. Attorney for four hours. Does that mean to you that this is a serious federal investigation or serious inquiry by the federal government . Oh, absolutely, reverend, al. Here is the other thing, it wasnt really four, it was closer to three. They took him over the accounts over and over again. They asked him the questions one way. Then came back and asked them to him another way. He still was consistent in terms of what it is that they saw. And so, as of a week ago, my client is a federal witness and people are now saying he recanted his story. He has not changed. He hasnt made any comments since last wednesday. It shows there is a lot of misinformation being spewed about. Help me with that misinformation, attorney bosley. Okay. Your client is saying what . What has he said happened that night . Just repeat quickly for our viewers. Okay. Real briefly. They are walking in the middle of the street. An officer is coming from the opposite direction. He slows. They stop. He tells them to get the f on the sidewalk. My client says, well, were a short distance from home. Were going to keep on walking. And big Mike Mike Brown says nothing at that point. They keep walking. The officer throws his car in reverse. Catches up with them rapidly. Then said something to the effect, what did you say . And attempted to get aught of the car. He is so close on them, he cant open the car door. So he and mike have conversation, real words. He reaches out and grabs mike by the throat. Mike is a big guy. He is moving away from the officer then the officer latches on to his shirt. He pulls him closer to the car. At that time, mike is continuing to try to get away from him. The officer pulls out his weapon and said, ill shoot you. And before he could get the next ill shoot pow, hes shot. And he lets him go and he runs. That three cars are already stacked up behind the Police Officers car because he is blocking the street. Dorian get behind the car and the first car, big mike, mike brown, as he runs by, he says keep running bro. So dorian pays attention to that, but the officer is right behind. As mike passes by, the officer passes the car, dorian is able to get a full view of what is going on. He says there are more there are shots fired and he is thinking that one hit mike in the back. The autopsy says that it was one that hit him in the arm that could have come from the back. Mike then puts his hands up, turns around and officer closes the gap and continues to shoot him and he falls on his face. And thats the story. Alderman french, there or two other witnesses that tell very similar stories, two other eyewitnesss, very similar stories. The only one ive heard that contradicts this is a lady who called into a radio show that says what she says. She was not there. She says is the policemans story. Is there anything you heard or saw from the autopsy reports released by the familys private pathologist or federal autopsy, to the degree you know, that is inconsistent story weve been told by Dorian Johnson and two other eyewitnesss. I think the autopsy report is more evidence that shows that an indictment should come and that this thing should go to trial. That what community wants. They want this thing to move on. They are waiting for the wheels of justice to spin faster. When the county prosecutor comes out today and says that his process wont be done until october, that worries me. Were trying to keep the peace here. And it is a fragile peace. I dont know if we can keep it until october. Trymaine, what is the mood now on the streets where we saw ten days of violence . I tell you what, i think people are quite frankly tired. Night after night of being gassed. Night after night of facing police rubber bullets, police are worn down. Last night we saw a strategy by the Police Department. Rather tan throwing tear gas, they circle had crowd, went in and aggressively physically removed people. Maced people. Last week there is still a very tin uous balance. Things change at night. So we will wait until tonight to determine how cool peoples heads are. One thing thats amazing to me, and ive been involved in civil rights and cases like this all my life, i have never seen what we saw today. An attorney general actually on the ground and in a city that has been torn around a legal case, to really let the people know that they have a handson inquiry. Freeman bosley, youve been a mayor, youve been a lawyer. This is unprecedented. I cant remember a sitting attorney general coming into a scene like this. Thats right. And reverend al, thats what is so refreshing about this. And this is what you get when you get an africanamerican president. This is what you get when you get an africanamerican u. S. Attorney. These are the things that these people are concerned about. As you know, in the past, nobody was really interested in that. Thats why this thing is mushroomed into such a big problem because people have said it over and over again, what happened to mike brown, just really underscores what allowed to go on here in this community for so long. Weve got cases where a man was tazed 13 times by the Police Officer, antonio johnson, with his hands cuffed behind his back. They killed him. He kid to the next day. Another situation with a man in columbus square, shot 27 times by police. Nobody paid attention to those stories. It has taken mike browns situation and the National Media to pull the cover off of what is going on here in st. Louis. Thats why people are so excited and so glad to have you. All right, trymaine lee. Freeman bosley, and antonio french, let me thank all of you for your time tonight. And thank you. Coming up, protesters outside the grand jury began looking at this case today. And started to gather evidence. But the prosecutor in charge is raising all kind of questions from the community on whether this can be a fair investigation. Plus, new details emerge on where the investigation is going and who is talking. And out of the chaos comes stories of inspiration. Yes, inspiration. How ferguson teachers and residents are coming together for the community. Stay with us. The grand jury convenes today amid controversy surrounding the prosecutor. Thats next. Ing . R. Breaking news, attorney general eric holder is meeting in ferguson. Grand jury testimony began today in the Michael Brown case. The proceedings of that testimony are secret but theres a fire storm of controversy surrounding the prosecutor whose presenting evidence to that jury. Protesters gathered around the courthouse today demanding st. Louis county prosecutor Robin Mccullough recuse himself from the case. Questioning whether he can remain impartial in the case. Today mccullough said his investigation would be full and fair, and gave us a hint at how long the grand jury hearings might continue. The aspirational team is mid october to have everything completed. We arent going to rush anything in or rush anything through but as things are completed, they will be presented to the grand jury. But i understand the public want to know whats going on and needs to know. So there will be no decision by anybody made at end of today or next week or any time soon but we want to get the process started. No decision any time soon. So how might this all play out and what can happen to convince the community that investigation will be fair and impartial . Thanks to both of you for being here tonight. Thank you for having us. Thachk you, reverend al. Reverend bines. Let me go to you now. What do you think of the grand jury convening for next two months. It sounds good, we want to get things started, but we want it get things done right. The best way for things to be done right is for prosecutor Bob Mcculloch to recuse himself. We want things right and transparent. We dont want any bias whatsoever in the process. We want justice. And this isnt political. This is just about being correct. You know, areba, last night, the governor addressed those calls to remove Robert Mcculloch from the case in a statement saying quote, im not asking st. Louis county prosecutor Bob Mcculloch to recuse himself from this case. There is a process by which a prosecutor can recuse them self and a prosecutor be appointed. This morning prosecutor mcculloch fired back. Listen to this. Im not walking way from this. Ive been entrusted with these responsibilities. But i understand declaring a state of emergency, governor mixon has the authority to say, mcculloch is out of this case. We will proceed, as we lay out to people, until im told, if im told, by the governor, that i cant. And the most devastating thing that can happen is if a week from now, a month from now, he decides he has taken me off this case. You know, everyone is starting over. So stand up, you know, man up. Stand up and say, i am not removing mcculloch or i am removing mcculloch. The family deserves no less than this. Man up. Stand up, governor. Sounds like he is throwing the gauntlet down to the governor who has the Legal Authority to remove him. Not that he has it recuse himself. Areba . You know, reverend al. I think this political posturing is embarrassing and it goes to the frustration that Ferguson Community is feeling. If the governor wants to remove mcculloch he has the Legal Authority to do so. Rather than take little snippets at him or dig at him through the press, he needs do that if thats what he believes is the right thing to do. The st. Louis community, fefrgson community, believes that mcculloch is incapable of being unbias in this case. They site a case where two africanamerican men were shot by two white Police Officers in a vehicle. Those officers were not indicted or prosecuted. There is a long list of cases that i think has caused the ferguson commune it to have no faith in mcculloch. The governor knows that and i agree with mcculloch that the governor needs to man up, step up, and take some decisive action. Committee woman bines, lets go through what a grand jury involves in missouri. Jurors will consider whether theres probable cause a crime was committed. The votes of 9 of 12 jurors are required for an excitement and the proceedings are kept secret. How likely is that that there will be an indictment in a given this grand jury in your opinion . Well, you know, i dont i dont know. We need to start the process. There are so many unknowns going on with this case right now. So many things being, you know, leaked out to the press. That you know, should not be. But we need to start the process. Because from where the community is standing, theres an unarmed young man that was shot six times, twice in the head. The idea that there may or may not be an excitement is crazy. It sounds like there should be an indictment because this stop from walking in the middle of the street should never ended like this. Never from a trained officer. Areba, let me get your Legal Expertise here. The new republic reported today that grand jury might not deliver the justice that protesters are calling for. They wrote, while and im quoting them, while grand juries have a lot of power in theory, in reality, few use it. Instead most just follow the lead of prosecutors. Not only do the prosecutors get to decide what charges to seek, they also end up choosing what evidence to bring forward and how to present it. Now, areba, the prosecutors in there by himself. No attorney representing any opposing view. He decides what evidence is put in front of the grand jury or not. He decides the charges. And he doesnt need an indictment to make an arrest. He can do that tonight on probable cause. Absolutely, reverend al. Somably ef that this prosecutor punted this to the grand jury to take the pressure off of himself. Very few cases are decided at the grand jury level. Most cases involve a criminal complaint being filed and an open preliminary hearing being held. A hearing where a judge is presiding. Thats open to the public. Where the evidence and witnesses presented are all open. Theres absolute disclosure. Where as in contrast, grand jury proceedings, as youve said, are done in secret. And they really are about what the prosecutor wants to happen. If the prosecutors goes in there with the strong case, he can pretty much guarantee an indictment. To the contrary, if the case is presented in an alternative way, there may not be an indictment. But in any event the prosecutor gets to stand there and say, hey, look, i gave it to the grand jury and they didnt come back with an indictment. Taking the pressure off of him. Again, another point of contention. Another reason that community is so uncomfortable and so frustrated with mcculloch staying on this case. All right, thank you both for your time this evening. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up, inside the investigation. New details emerging from witnesses. But first, out of chaos. 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