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we'll get to those stories in a moment. we start with breaking news. a nightmare for any servicemen or family member of one this thanksgiving, the desperate search for three sailors whose aircraft crashed en route to their aircraft carrier in the philippine sea, southeast of okinawa. for the latest we start with courtney kube. first of all, the latest on the search as well as the investigation into the crash. what do we know? >> so, we know that a u.s. navy c-2 aircraft, which is a propeller, twin-engine plane is one used to carry people and mail and supplies on and off of u.s. aircraft carriers. it's commonly referred to as a cod. we know it crashed down when it was in the vicinity of the "uss ronald reagan" about 2:45 local time today, wednesday, off okinawa. it went into the water, into the ocean with 11 personnel on board. eight of them were able to get out, have been rescued and brought back to the "uss ronald reagan" for medical care. they're being described as being in good condition. the other three u.s. navy sailors are still missing. of course, it's the middle of the night there local time in the region, but the search continues. the u.s. navy has ships, they have helicopters, they have aircraft, surveillance airplanes that are up in the air desperately searching for these three missing sailors, craig. >> the 7th fleet, courtney, has had a number of accidents at sea this year. several. to what is the navy attributing this, or are they? >> there have been a string of deadly accidents, actually, in the region, in the 7th fleet area. they have been, you know, ships, u.s. ship collisions that have led to 17 u.s. navy sailors being killed and injured. this is different because this is an aircraft that crashed, but it was a u.s. navy aircraft, as you mentioned. it goes to the larger problem that this region has had this year. there's been a comprehensive review the u.s. navy is looking at. we're waiting for one more to be released in the coming weeks from the u.s. secretary of navy that is supposed to look, again, at what is causing all this. is there a problem of training with sailors in the area? do they need more rest? is the operational tempo just too high? is it causing problems? there's also been this widespread problem with the u.s. military in general. generally, with problems where they're stretched thin. they're operating in so many regions of the world, at such a high operational tempo, it takes an impact on the individuals, it takes an impact on the equipment. but, of course, in this case of this cod that crashed today when it was coming in towards the "uss ronald reagan," we just don't know. the japanese defense minister said several hours ago he told reporters that the navy -- the u.s. navy had told him that there was some kind of potential engine trouble but the u.s. navy is not confirming that at this stage. >> thank you. for more reaction pete alexander is traveling with the president in west palm beach. peter, what is the president saying about the sailors? >> reporter: well, we did hear from the president a matter of hours ago on twitter, basically saying he's sending his prayers to all involved but he's monitoring the situation. we're told by white house aides traveling with the president that he has been updated. he has received some updates about the situation. so, that's where that situation stands this morning. but was notable today is hours before he mentioned the sailors, the crash that took place there off oak naw washgs as courtney was just talking about, we did hear from the president unleashing his latest twitter tirade. this happened predawn series of insults. a lot of them directed at some familiar foils. first the nfl -- one, the nfl, the second to lavar ball, a father of the ucla college basketball players who was recently detained and released in china along with a couple of teammates for shoplifting. here's specifically what the president said on twitter this morning. again, it started before 5:30 this morning. he wrote, it wasn't the white house, it wasn't the state department, it wasn't father lavar's so-called people on the ground in china that got his son out of a long-term prison sentence. it was me, he writes in all caps. too bad. lavar is just a poor man's version of don king without the hair. just think, he adds in a second tweet, lavar, you could have spent the next five to ten years during thanksgiving with your son in china with no nba contract to support you. remember lavar's shoplifting is not a little thing. it's a really big deal, especially in china. he punctuates that tweet simply writing, ungrateful fool. this is the latest in a back and forth -- a fierce back and forth between these two men over the course of the last several days. ball earlier this week speaking out, in effect saying he wasn't thanking the president that he had something to do with it but had the president picked him up himself and put him on the plane, then perhaps he would have thanked the president. it is notable right now that the president is here at mar-a-lago where he'll be for the thanksgiving without some senior aides, among them, john kelly, who did not make this trip. as we watch the president's activities over the course of the next several days, and he says it will include meetings and a series of phone calls from what he describes as his winter white house, we'll also be keeping a close eye on what he tweets, 280 characters per tweet these days, giving us a better insight into the president's mind set. >> peter alexander in west palm beach, thank you. brian mcguire is a former chief of staff to mitch mcconnell, also policy director at brownstein. elena is editor-in-chief of sv nation. a big thanks to all of you for being with me on thanksgiving eve. mr. costa, let me start with you in d.c. why was lavar bell, why was that donald trump's presidential priority this morning? >> president trump comes out of the tabloid wars of new york city in the 1980s and 1990s. as much as his behavior in the presidency is outside of the norm, it's pretty predictable if we look at the history and assent of donald trump throughout his public life. the combativeness, the willingness to engage with people on this kind of personal level. it's something we've seen throughout his life. >> when the president goes after a figure in the sports world, it seems oftentimes as if they have something in common. here's a list of some of the more high-profile targets he's gone after here. colin kaepernick, steph curry, jemele hill, marshawn lynch recently and, of course, lavar ball now. and here's a list on the right of folks who have gone after him who have been ignored largely by the president. gregg popovich, steve kerr, and lebron james as well, which is a little odd to me. what do you make of the pattern? >> well, i think having the photos lined up together kind of shows you a pretty clear pattern and retweet, if you know why he might be picking on a certain group versus another set of folks. but i think by and large when you get past the connective tissue that everyone is of the same race and it's sort of easy to go after a group of people whose stats the american public receive on a daily basis in a scroll across their tv or via their app or via fantasy football leagues. people can understand and get why president trump, and it's sort of an easy target for president trump to focus on those folks rather than to focus his attentions elsewhere. more americans have opinions about those athletes than they do necessarily about their congressman. it's an easy target. >> king james, you know, lebron went after him, all in on twitter. he didn't say anything to lebron. why does lebron get a pass? is it because it's ohio, he needs ohio or more to it than that? >> i think there's more to it than that. when you put that group of athletes together you see a power structure. the people on the left that donald trump has gone after are most people subject to labor unions. they're not the owners of teams. lebron is a little global salesman so he he has a little more power in that space than, for instance, colin kaepernick, who currently does not have a job or jemele hill who was suspended by espn for some of her criticisms about the sponsors of the network. >> robert, i had dave on the show yesterday and he went as far to say these attacks are part of a political playbook. take a listen. >> this is a very old playbook in terms of attacking well-known black athletes. i can cite you stuff going back to dak johnson through jackie robinson through muhammed ali to colin kaepernick. they're a very good target for people who play this game of divide and distract. >> distract, robert costa, how much of it is just that? >> as a reporter i don't want to attribute too much to calculation but it's clear that throughout this first year of president trump's term, he has often used racially incendiary language and conduct, whether it's his remarks after the tragedy in charolettesville, whether it's the way he's handled nfl players taking a knee during the national anthem, now his back and forth with these ucla basketball players and their families. it is part of a pattern, the motivations i can't -- i can't read his mind but he has done this throughout the first year. it's part of the defining nature of his first year. >> brian, a senate majority leader sees these needless fights from a president who doesn't always provide the kind of leadership on key agenda items and that majority leader might say what? >> i think the majority leader has made it clear he prefers the tweets be kept to a minimum and it's not clear how it's helping advance the agenda. the president, as bob said, sort of enjoys this kind of thing. he always has. i think some of the fights he's had in the past with people like rosie o'donnell make this pale in comparison. seems like lavar is enjoying himself, too. >> well, to be clear, though, was it lavar who started it or the president? >> not -- again, not to defend lavar ball, for the record. >> they seem to be enjoying themselves in this whole thing, and i think the sons probably wish they could leaf it alone. >> it was just a matter of time that the intersection of donald trump and lavar ball, it was just a matter of time before these two reality stars collided. >> well, yeah. lavar ball is a firebrand in and of himself and an apple cart upsetter is how i term him. he's taken on the nba and the ncaa. but this isn't without precedent because in 2011 the georgetown basketball team ended up playing a series of goodwill games in china and there was a brawl at the end of one of them. the vice president at the time, joe biden, had to -- had actually attended the game before and subsequent to the brawl, the chinese officials worked through normal diplomatic channels to ensure the safety of those players for the rest of their trip and safe return home and nobody asked for a thank you. >> let's turn to roy moore, bob, i want to play a mash-up of what president trump said before he left for mara lago. >> we don't need a liberal person in there, a democrat, jones. i looked at his terrible. it's terrible. >> mr. president, is an accused child molester better than a democrat? is an accused -- >> look, he denies it. >> i'll be letting you know next week, but i can tell you, you don't need somebody who's soft on crime like jones. and i do have to say, 40 years is a long time. he's run eight races and this has never come up. >> bob costa, the president's calculation there on how close he gets to roy moore before the election. >> the leadership of the senate, including senator mcconnell and many of his colleagues have said publicly they believe the women, the women who have spoken out against roy moore. now, president trump, the leader of that same party, the republican party, is saying that because mr. moore has denied the allegations, that that raises, i guess, in his mind suspicion about the entire episode. that puts a real divide in the gop as this race approaches on december 12th and it shows the president is defiant even when it comes to his own party and allegations this serious. >> brian, what makes mitch mcconnell's life easier, a republican seat held or a democrat from alabama? >> look, it's always better for president and the majority leader, in this case a republican, to object the same page but mcconnell has you along history of taking these things very seriously. he's made the determination, as he has in the past with bob packwood, for instance, that losing a seat is preferable to losing the honor of the senate. i think in this case, obviously he would like a republican, but he's not going to accept a republican he thinks is unacceptable. >> you would also think, brian, perhaps that if you're roy moore and you know even if you win you're going to be surrounded by colleagues who do not want you there and who are going to ostracize you, you would think that that would be part of his political calculation, no? >> yeah, i think his political identity is a little different than most and he seems to be somebody who's perfectly comfortable in an environment where he's not aligned with the team. >> that was very diplomatic of you, brian. a big thanks to you, robert, thank you. >> thanks for having me. through new krction employees coming forward with sexual harassment allegations against charlie rose. we'll hear from an accuser who says in an exclusive interview she struggled for blaming herself for an incident. >> i think i was -- we have an issue, especially as women, younger women, oh, did i -- is it something i wore or -- i think i did have that, oh, am i putting out the wrong energy? am i not professional? and 57 million uber drivers and riders had their accounts hacked last year. we are just now finding out about -- about it because the company tried to cover it up. did uber break the law? ♪ spread a little love today ♪ spread a little love my-y way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ philadelphia cream cheese. made with fresh milk and real cream makes your recipes their holiday favourites. the holidays are made with philly. three more women are accusing cbs anchor charlie rose of sexual misconduct today. rose was fired from cbs and pbs less than 24 hours after "the washington post" published allegations from eight women that rose sexually thha-ha rase them. rose has apologized for his actions but denied any wrongdoing. one of "the post" reporters says there may be more allegations coming. >> even just hours after our story was published last night, my inbox was already flooded with e-mails from other women who have had inappropriate encounters with charlie rose. some going back decades. >> nbc stephanie gosk has been following the developments on this one. nbc has talked to one former rose intern. what is she saying about all of this? >> so, she was an intern in 2002, she was 25 years old and she was asked to bring mail to rose's apartment. when she got there, this is what she says she saw. >> you nogs ai knocked and he se in. i proceeded to go into the living room and he said, i want to show you this scene from this movie. and he said, have a seat, you know, relax. and he proceeded to turn on the film "secretary," which is a, up, sexually involved film involving s&m, unfortunately. and he asked me, you know, how does this make you feel? you know, does it turn you on? that kind of stuff. >> clearly, that was an uncomfortable moment for her. sarah gordon told us in that conversation as well that this was kind of a joke among the interns at the production company at the time for charlie rose's talk show. meaning that the interns knew that this sort of stuff was going on and it raises the question if the interns new, craig, who else knew? >> who else knew. again, it should be noted, we talked about this briefly yesterday, cbs didn't waste any time cutting ties with charlie rose and neither did pbs, correct? >> right. but you also remember, too, when cbs first made their announcement they suspended charlie rose and then less than 24 hours that they then fired him. i think what we're seeing from the new allegations coming out from employees of cbs, that that may have pushed their decision faster. >> to be clear, charlie rose has denied any wrongdoing. >> not exactly. there's a bit of a gray area. he has apologized. he has said he has done some inappropriate things that he apologizes for. and then he then contests some of the allegations in their details. and he was stopped on the street outside of his apartment and he was asked how he feels about the wrongdoings. he said, its not wrongdoings. so, there's some gray area there. >> meanwhile, word that a renowned director has also decided to spend some time thinking about some of the choices that he's made. >> that's right. john lasseter. this might not be a name that rings a bell for people but i guarantee you you know his work. one of the greatest creative minds out of hollywood, an animator, the co-founder of pixar, "toy story," "cars," he has admitted to what he called missteps and he has taken a six-month leave from his work. the target was rashida jones and another story out of hollywood, another big name and it goes on and on. >> missteps. do we know more about what these missteps are? >> well, not specifics. >> all right. >> but the allegation is that he groped people. >> engaged in inappropriate behavior. all right. stephanie gosk, thank you. we hope we don't have to see you again soon on this particular story. >> at i suspect you will. >> i suspect we will as well. uber outrage. the tech transportation company pays hackers $100,000 to keep a massive data breach under wraps. 57 million riders and drivers have been affected. also es staping north korea. new dramatic video shows north korean soldiers looking for a defecting soldier, crossing into the dmz briefly and it's believed opening fire for the first time in 30 years. mary had a little lamb whose fleece was white as snow. but after an electrical fire from faulty wiring, mary's vintage clothing and designer shoe collection were ruined. luckily, the geico insurance agency had recently helped mary with renters insurance, and she got a totally fab replacement wardrobe at bloomingdale's. mary was inspired to start her own fashion line, exclusively for little lambs. visit geico.com and see how affordable renters insurance can be. 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in terms of its breadth or scale, not like equifax in terms of sensitive information. it was names, e-mails, driver's license numbers of 600,000 drivers in the united states. but the company in having paid that $100,000 received assurances that that information would be deleted. how you receive that guarantee from hackers, that's a big question. i talked to cyber security experts about that, too, how are you ever sure. but this an uncommon practice by companies. to pay ransomware demands. the big story is uber covered it up for a year. that hurts not just their customers and riders, but it hurts the whole system when you cover up that kind of information. >> thanks so much for that. some of the other stories we're following on this afternoon, a potential boost to senate republicans' hopes of rewriting this country's tax code. alaska senator lisa murkowski says she would support a bill that repeals the affordable care act's individual mandate. that provision is part of the tax reform package that the senate hopes to vote on next week. murkowski did not actually say she would vote for the bill. republicans are very much need her vote. the bill will likely die if three republicans oppose it. wisconsin's ron johnson has already come out against that bill. a shakeup at the white house. three military personnel have been reassigned over allegations of improper conduct with women during president trump's recent trip to asia. the service members are part of the white house communications agency. allegedly they also broke curfew during president trump's visit to vietnam earlier this month. the pentagon is investigating. military personnel from the same white house team also faced allegations of improper behavior during vice president pence's trip to panama in august. and larry nasr, the former usa gymnastics' team doctor pled guilty today to seven counts of first-degree criminal sexual misconduct, related to sexual abuse under the guise of medical examination. the latest come from gabby douglas on a post on instagram last night, she wrote, i did not publicly share my experiences as well as many other things because for years we were conditioned to stay silent and, honestly, some things were extremely painful. i wholeheartedly support my teammates for coming forward with what happened to them. nasr faces at least 25 years in prison. secretary of state rex tillerson is declaring violence against rohingya muslims in myanmar, ethnic cleansing, that could lead to new penalties against the regime. human rights activists have been calling for tillerson to make that declaration. hundreds of thousands of rohingyas have had to flee to bangladesh in recent months amid growing violence at the hands of burmese troops. security forces and buddhist vigilantes. and we have some dramatic new video to show you of the dangers that north koreans face if they try to defect to south korea. and how willing they are to risk their lives to make that move. that video shows a north korean soldier's attempt to cross the demilitarized zone, an attempt that nearly cost him his life. nbc's keir simmons has more. >> reporter: in the dramatic footage released overnight, a military jeep hurdles towards the dmz, a border considered one of the most dangerous in the world. inside the vehicle a north korean soldier risking his life, desperate to defect. heavily armed border guards racing to intercept him. the defector leaps from the jeep. seconds later his former military colleagues firing 40 rounds. he is shot at least five times. his motionless body slumped against a wall. the footage released by the u.s.-led u.n. command then shows a daring rescue. south korean soldiers crawling to him and dragging him to safety. just last month inside north korea we visited the border area, known as the dmz. our military guide took us through the very same road where the defector is seen and to the heavily guard border where north and south are steps away from each other. that is the border. the escape, an embarrassment for north korea which insists defectors are kidnapped or lured by the south. it's also a diplomatic violation. south korean soldiers briefly crossing over the border, opening fire, it's thought, for the first time in three decades. the soldier now recovering after two operations, lucky to be alive, running for freedom, escaping with just seconds to spare. >> that was nbc's keir simmons reporting there. a house ethics panel confirms they have now launched investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct by michigan congressman john conyers, this as a new accuser reportedly steps forward. we'll have the latest on that story. also a barrage of accusers coming forward in hollywood and the beltway, but how is this watershed moment for women's rights impacting industries outside the spotlight? we will take a deep dive after the break. 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>> reporter: well, craig, at this point the congressman is essentially denying all of these allegations. we have a statement from him from yesterday that reads, quote, i expressly and vehemently deny the allegations made against me and continue to do so. my office resolved the allegations with an express denial of liability in order to save all involved from the rigors of protracted litigation. but we should walk through a little bit of what is alleged here. we do know that this woman, according to documents published in buzzfeed, and confirmed in part by the congressman's statement, which acknowledged that he did settle, as you saw there in an attempt to, as he says, avoid litigation, around sexual advances that this woman says resulted in her being fired inappropriately. and she says they did go to the office of compliance, that's kind of a little known agency we've been talking a lot about, that was created back in 1995. at time it was a step in the right direction, but it's evolved into a system that basically, as contradicts say, is stacked against these accusers and binds them by confidentiality agreements, nondisclosure agreements. there are democrats now -- there is, excuse me, an open house ethics investigation into this. democratic leader nancy pelosi calling for that after conyers' statement acknowledging what had happened. but there are some questions about if they can get the documents they need because there was a nondisclosure agreement. in this case, it would be theoretically binding. we'll see how that unfolds. on the one hand you have some people coming out and saying that mr. conyers should step aside from that post on the judiciary committee while this investigation continues. congressman gregory meeks saying that earlier today on cnn. others have said that's not necessary, including james clyburn, a very influential member of the congressional black caucus. you also have pressure back home on mr. conyers. the detroit free press writing a scathing editorial saying conyers should step down now, he can't represent adequately his constituents in detroit. conyers is the dean of the u.s. house, the longest serving member of that body. and, of course, just the latest to be engulfed in what we are learning and, frankly, my reporting says is just potentially the tip of the iceberg for capitol hill. >> the tip of the iceberg? with -- are we talking about conyers specifically or other lawmakers in general? >> reporter: no, just the grappling with this problem. there's -- you know, i've been talking to and i know my colleague, leanne caldwell has been talking with many people as well. when you talk privately with women who work with, whether members, former members, staff members, this is widely acknowledged it's a problem. people are very uncomfortable coming forward, whether it's because they're bound by an agreement like this because they went to the office of compliance or they're very worried about the political ramifications. >> kasie hunt on the hill for us this thanksgiving eve. thank you. do appreciate you. let's bring in washington post reporter emily heyl. we wanted to bring you in because you've been reporting on an underreported part to this story, if you will. we have been talking seemingly ad nauseum about sexual harassment charges against the most powerful, hollywood, media, journalism. yesterday i talked to the creator of the me too movement online. listen to what she had to say. >> these hollywood figures and politicians are just -- it's indicative of what's happening on the ground, it's indicative of what's happening with regular people in regular communities. i know that this is pervasive. i think what we're seeing is just how pervasive this is. every corner of the world, every business, everywhere. >> you wrote about one industry where mistreatment of women has become commonplace, the restaurant business. why is that? >> well, the restaurant business isn't like, you know, working in a restaurant isn't like working in the insurance industry. restaurants are very different workplaces. you're talking about a lot of workers who are very vulnerable in the back of the house, in the kitchen, it might mean there are a lot of immigrants working there. in the front of the house, you might have a lot of women who are working for less than minimum wage, for tips essentially. so, they're less likely to report, you know, sexual harassment when it happens. and they're also just much more likely to experience it. you know, there are a lot of other factors too. you know, you're talking about a place that has a very, like, macho attitude in these kitchens. and when women have come into kitchens, the sort of abuse that takes place on a regular basis and the rough talk turns sexual. and so there are a lot of factors here. but i think the point -- sexual harassment in the restaurant industry is almost epidemic. we were so shocked when we started talking to women about how regularly they experience this. and to your point about this not just being a problem, you know, of celebrity men, very powerful men, women in the restaurant industry are almost as likely to get harassed by some bar back or dishwasher as they are, you know, some celebrity chef or the owner of the restaurant. so, this happens at all levels. it happens to women that you don't hear from because they're not accusing some, you know, bold face name. >> and never mind the customers. i mean, you're talking about the different levels, behind the bar, behind the line, if you will, and you get customers who come in as well, i would imagine, from time to time who see nothing wrong with harassing a waitress or waiter. >> absolutely. and that harassment that comes from customers -- i talked to many women who were harassed by their customers, sometimes horrifically. and one of the real problems there, too, is that sometimes when they either -- when they do speak up, when they report it to a manager, in some cases the manager has said, oh, you need to go home and settle down and, you know, you need -- the problem is you because the customer is the one who's paying. in some cases, the customers were allowed to remain and management did nothing. so, that -- you know, that come pouns it pipts not just the bad behavior of the customer but it's also management not handling this and taking it seriously and handling it in an appropriate way. >> you talked to more than 60 women for your report. i just want to read for our listeners and our viewers a short paragraph from your story. the reasons are many, and they're complicated. many kitchens are boys' clubs dominated by machismo and flashing knives. many women rely on pleasing their male customers and managers for tips or good shifts. human resources departments might be nonexistent or toothless and restaurant staffs are often hard-partying posses that blur professional lines. if this problem is as complicated as we now know it to be, what's the solution? >> well, that's a good question. i mean, people have suggested some solutions, right? you can have more women in management roles as chefs or as owners. that would help. right now that number -- or that percentage is quite low. so, that could help having more women in higher-up positions in restaurants. you could also have stronger hr departments where women who experience sexual harassment could have a place to report it where their reporting might actually lead to something or is there would be better training in the first place. overall, i think it's a matter of the culture of the restaurant industry. that's something that i think many of the women that i talked to, like you said, my colleague and i, mora and i, spoke to over 60 people about this who had either experienced it or witnessed it, sexual harassment, or abuse or rape in the restaurant industry. and, you know, you talk to these women and you say, what do you think needs to be done? a couple the women said, i don't know. maybe men should just stop sexually harassing me. that's not an unreasonable solution but it needs to come from the culture and women say, this isn't our problem. this is something the men in the industry need to be talking about. and some are. you've seen a few celebrity chefs talking about it, publicly, tom put out an open letter to men in the industry saying this is something we need to come to terms with, we need to wrestle with and figure out what to do with. but through our reporting, we realize that this is just a really deep-rooted problem that won't easily be solved. >> emily heil, we have to leave it there. it's a fascinating read. thank you. happy thanksgiving. the fbi is now investigating whether the mysterious death of a texas border patrol agent came as a result of an attack. we'll bring you the latest developments on that in a live report next. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a medication, this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further irreversible damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. humira has been clinically studied for over 20 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. talk to your doctor and visit humira.com. this is humira at work. the. the fbi is now offering a reward for information that helps answer questions about an incident in texas that left one border patrol agent dead and another seriously hurt. killed in that accident, agent martinez, who was found with traumatic head injuries and broken bones late saturday night. his partner also suffered major head injuries, but managed to survive. pete williams has been following this story. pete, what are investigators saying at this point about what happened? >> what they're saying is they're investigating it as a potential assault on a federal agent. but they say they don't know what happened here and they're open to all possibilities. there are several. the border union says it believes the men were attacked by rocks, by smugglers or people crossing the border illegally. drug smugglers perhaps or people coming in bringing others, but there's no conclusive evidence of that. that's why the fbi is offering this reward. $25,000 added to another 20,000 that texas is offering. this happened in a relatively desolate stretch of interstate 10 near the texas town of van horn. it's about 30 miles north of the border. among the possibilities that the men were ambushed and attacked or that they fell down the culvert or that there was some other kind of accident and the problem it is that the surviving border patrol agent says he can't remember what happened even though he did radio for help and that's why the men were discovered. but he says he doesn't know what happened. he e can't remember it. that's why the tuberculosis is asking for hips here.possibilit. >> while we have you, news coming out of federal courts with transgender people in the military. >> this is the second ruling by a judge say thag the government basically acted improperly in imposing this ban. what both rulings have said is that the government can make distinctions among types of people, but it has to have a good reason to discriminate. here, it note that is the policy follow ed a tweet from the president who said generals said they told him they didn't want transgend transgender people in the services, but both say the military had looked into this issue and concluded there was no reason not to let transgender people serve. the government says it's going to appeal one of the rulings and it will have to appeal the other one, too. pete, enjoy the turkey, sir. up next, an interview with one of the reporters who broke the charlie rose story who says she was heard for more accusers since her original report. for her compassion and care. he spent decades fighting to give families a second chance. but to help others, they first had to protect themselves. i have afib. even for a nurse, it's complicated... and it puts me at higher risk of stroke. that would be devastating. i had to learn all i could to help protect myself. once i got the facts, my doctor and i chose xarelto®. xarelto®... to help keep me protected. once-daily xarelto®, a latest-generation blood thinner... ...significantly lowers the risk of stroke in people with afib not caused by a heart valve problem. it has similar effectiveness to warfarin. xarelto® works differently. warfarin interferes with at least 6 blood-clotting factors. xarelto® is selective, targeting just one critical factor interacting with less of your body's natural blood-clotting function. for afib patients well-managed on warfarin, there is limited information on how xarelto® compares in reducing the risk of stroke. don't stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor, as this may increase risk of stroke. while taking, you may bruise more easily, or take longer for bleeding to stop. it may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. xarelto® can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. get help right away for unexpected bleeding, unusual bruising, or tingling. if you've had spinal anesthesia, watch for back pain or any nerve or muscle-related signs or symptoms. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. tell your doctor before all planned medical or dental procedures... ...and before starting xarelto®-about any conditions, such as kidney, liver, or bleeding problems. it's important to learn all you can... ...to help protect yourself from a stroke. talk to your doctor about xarelto®. there's more to know™. the medicare enrollment deadline is just a few days away. changes to medicare plans could impact your healthcare costs. are you getting all the benefits available to you? 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well now, we have an answer. and the two duelling papers here in trump's hometown of new york both put it this way. i'm with perv. >> we don't need a liberal person in there. a democrat. >> should assad go? >> well, he denies. roy moore denies. >> what about the women. what about the nine women? >> he's in total denial and i have to say, 40 years is a long time. he's run eight races this has never come up. >> he seems to be endorsing someone who's in an accused child molester. >> he is undermining all the senators who have threatened to expel roy moore. >> if the president embraces roy moore, this is a huge gift for democrats. >> the president isn't just siding with moore, he's not ruling out the possibility of campaigning with him. politico reports the president privately doubted the reports of the accusers and that according to white house advisers, he quote, drew parallels between

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