President trump, secretary of defense jim mattis and ambassador to the u. N. Nikki haley each spoke out about north korea and its leader. Reporter mr. President , will you attack north korea . Eel swell see. We have many military options and the president wanted to be briefed on all of them. Any threat will be met with a massive military response, both effective and overwhelming. We are not looking to the total annihilation of a country, namely north korea, but as i said, we have many options to do so. To the members of the security council, i must say enough is enough. We have taken an incremental approach and despite the best of intentions it has not worked. His abusive use of missiles and his Nuclear Threats show that he is begging for war. Richard haas, well get to those comments in a minute. Those were the comments that were choreographed and the sort of comments you would expect during this sort of crisis, but what the diplomatic world is talking about certainly what our allies in south korea are talking about this morning are the attacks the president of the United States made on the South Koreans. Suggesting that they were appeasing the North Koreans and also talking about inexplicably starting a trade war with the South Koreans at the very moment that they are at risk of an allout hot war that could cost millions of lives on the peninsula. Sort through that for us. Its a sign that the National Security process, which is designed to make sure Something Like this doesnt happen is not working because all focus ought to be on collaborating with south korea against north korea. One of north koreas strategic aims is to split the u. S. From north korea. This would be like fdr attacking germany in the fall 1939, right before the air blitz on done done, the battle of britain. Why would we attack a longstanding ally on the eve of a possible wa are . The answer is we shouldnt be. Theres already enough tension. What they care more about now were worried that north korea poses a treat to us directly. Theres a tension between instead, we want to figure out can we come up with a common stance or a north korea that are able to deliver Nuclear Power around the world. How how can you be adopting the United States turning and on a completely different point, talking about a naristic trade war with this country thats literally on the cutting edge of what could you a nuclear concentration. Or at least again to explain is failure of his own policy. We have to remember that in moving last weekend to test, we believe a Hydrogen Bomb, to significantly escalate the confrontation between the United States and north korea, kim jong un rebuffed, a pr in federal court insitting them into negotiations, cred etting nem the state Department Officials were describing in private, in detail where they thought this was going. Last weekend patrd that. So the president i think is now scrambling. He always reacts impulsively, i think, toso the red rick of apays. Opinion i think they were put in separate category and theres now intensive discussion behind the scenes about new diplomatic efforts centering on the effect of pressure has only been to rush capability to take faster and they are now a clur dprsh where she said the independent for half measures is over, enough is enough. What is left to do that hasnt been done offer the last decade in terms of aeng prng the short answer is if the oo lot fmt north korea hoose already begun to sfrnl and theres black markets and gray marks. Theyre willing to have their people starve in order to support them. So sanctions arent the answer. So is it a hilt response or nothing . At some point get swim many and now its down to a binary point. Oot we learn to live with north korea, we admit forces to the region, maybe well say well use military force in they get a missile ready to launch or we launch as the National Security advisers was talking about, a preventive strike. We say this has reached an intolerable point, lets cut through this. Theres either a military option or theres acceptance of north korea by its binary. So bain airy. So where is most of the Foreign Policy community m. Most are saying as bad as it is, we can live with it and balance it. Let talk about what that means. That means the. Community is again, this is not a single community. But that is a choice. That is a choice. I this what theyre upd estimating is right now hes close to a point where he could attack several American City ps what they havent dealt with is in five or ten years, he could impose a threat to american society. Maybe he had 20 or 30 sfwrrnl its been the are the that people are notle to strip it down to has been into the wp and selling inons to isis or you have a military response . Theres not really any middle ground. And that you will this talk about sanctions really is just nonsensible. Is. With all due respect to to my friend richard haass. Im always worried when people describe themselves as binary choices. Nm the reality is there are lots of intermediatia options along the wu it it. Sfm spchl tirifying the japanese people, what was the most recent example of this. So i think that the question really is action is going to be taken to deal with this threat, the idea of simply accommodating it, i dont see that on the table but what and on a fairly wide menu of possible next steps or officials considering, i thought we heard a little bit of that from secretary of defense mattis, the coolest head in this run really saying if north korea attacks us, it will be met with massive response but then adding that the u. S. Diplomats arsenals th that. That bag the military tricks im sure is being exandso, john, we had richard talk about deterrence. Can you do the military its not fair that king. This to me is a fundamental question i dont have an answer to. O deterrence for throughout the cold war and particularly with the u. Sncht s. R. Fa the people who run the thinks were deterring frrp f that under normal circumstances is someone who is not considered rationale. 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As we talk about these two leaders and then mattis and till areson and kelly, the only problem is when you talk about the mags ality of the leaders and a will the of this conversation, i honestly did not know which leader you were talking about, l it was trump and the north korean leader. And thats the sort of the elephant in the room, that we are dealing with a president that some might argue is very hungry for war or is hungry to make unhinged decisionsand im not sure how much influence our Foreign Policy leaders have over that ultimately had a decision is made. You remember over a year ago general hayden staying on our show that it was quick, its quick when it happens. So theres in part was. Sfm a Major Nuclear tests. North korea has a strog mag nrngs south korea, i have told them their talk of frj to discuss north korea. Thank you. The ups. Sf sfrj. Pretty extreme measures being talked about. And id just point out that the Justice Department went on the record after an investigation that cost money stay. Complete lie. And were we. From this conflict is as hot as its been certainly as soon as the 1950s. As we talkrational, you could talk if the,ment what n we you a what happened when mchlkt and then iso if youre kim jong un, you know any gont ppgt sfwchblt fmt even when im correcting to the daept might be crazy richard. Snchls i do want to you can is it. F. Well, you could do that if you want mrks dgp toflchlt p from something hes not going to carry out, what does that mean to his word around the world and his 67, you never want people to start distonighting fvgt it not inconceivables north korea will suddenly announce ld. From. From. Level of nuclear kprmt skprmt that was an important wrinkle. There as difference between what masters and mcmast are has been saying. 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Com breast the notion that we would just arbitrarily or because of politics punish those kids when they didnt do anything wrong themselves i think would be something that would merit me speaking out. And that was president obama in his final News Conference before he left office in january on what it would take to bring him out and start speaking during the trump presidency. Well, that condition may be met today as President Trump is expected to announce a nonannouncement. A none announcement. Because thats the thing. Its not really an announcement. Its a huge News Conference youre all expected to watch at 11 and it isnt anything thats happening. It could be an announcement. It might be a transgender like theres word for this fake news. Everyone should be shocked right now. Attorney general Jeff Sessions set to hold a briefing on the program known as daca at 11 00 this morning. Two sources tell mbc news to end the program hes actually not going to end tood will come with a sixmonth delay. But they also strez this is very important the decision is not final until it is announced. I thought they were announcing it today. The bases already thought he ended daca program. See p so this is just messaging from the base but isnt actually happening . Steve heilemann, lets say, for instance, your former Campaign Manager had his home raided at 6 a. M. In the morning, right . Ooh, transgender. Transgender a couple hurs later you say i am now banning all transgender personnel from serving in the military, to which the joint chiefs go, what . This is a little bit different than that merely in the sense that this is actually something where his hand is being forced by rerlt. The transgender thing came out of nowhere. There were no pending court cases, he was not under any real pressure to do that. That was a pure distraction. A blur. Today seems like, again, we dont know what Jeff Sessions is going to say. Its sword of extraordinary given the high profile of this issue, the level of controversy attending to it, how much pressure trumps been under that hes going to send Jeff Sessions out to not take questions on whatever it is hes going to unveil today. But its not an unveiling. Its six month ps. But well see. But this is not the ending of the program, this the president kicking the can down the road for six months. I think it was Maggie Haberman who said theres always a lawsuit coming around the corner, theres always a huge press conference two weeks from now, theres always a new bill since hes been president of the United States that were going to unveil next week. Look over there. It is james carville, look at the bird, look at the bird. While somethings going on in front of your face. Hes not going to get his wall. So he distracts with an announcement that, julie, could it just well be a nonannouncement because this daca program will not end in six months . It certainly could be a nonannouncement where he buysically says im planning to end this but only in six months and only if congress doesnt act. I think the problem, though, just in terms of the practical of the program is that youre going to create this huge amount of uncertainty among these dreamers as 800,000 dreams are who are around the country, who are working, who are in school, serving in the military, do some of them choose to leave the country rather than see what happens overs next six months . Do folks not enrolled in the program refuse to give their personal information in case it does end . Its going to create a lot of uncertainty and i think its going to be damaging for the country. I think its the president again engaging in a form of bullying. Making people uncomfortable of using his words which are not backed up by bu hes bullying. Hes playing to his base, doing something thats faking aggressive back but all hes doing is passing on to general there and, by the way, all the whining on twitter, my god. Members of Congress Stop using twitter like you dont have a voting card. And if youre in the leadership, no more tweets about dreamers, all right . Put legislation on the floor and pass it. These members of Congress Tweet as if they have no power. It is its just a seriously, you know what . They need to go to the wizard of oz and get courage. We have a powerful former member, hes a man of courage. A lothe says we as americans do not hold children legally responsible for the actions of their parents. A lot of republicans coming out saying this was aaor craft the statement in a way where you can see the states. With regard to the military, one of the more astonishing things is you had the leadership of all the branches of the military that come the president will be curious to see if they do something very similar on this front. I hope i get a chance to talk about north korea but when you look at the debt ceiling, the budget resolution and whats obviously occupied the minds and labor of so much people hurricane and o if you dont support my wall we wont move forward to a budget resolution and it may giving vehicle for some of these other things to be done, so ill be curious to see how they balance what clearly i cannot remember im only 47 but i dont remember when i was in congress a plate this big in this kwens twengs prurn. At least give 218 house members something they want and maybe paul ryan in all the things that are in front of him will say sfrks were going to give you this tax cut pu youre going to have to pass dhaka and mack permanent. And senator mckpanl. Attacking republicans. Hes going to need to get all these things done . And he and his family went to who is ton nfrm john corker, Lindsey Graham, mitch mmm connell. And significant Public Officials and 60 of americans, not me, not me, i just want to be very clear here, but just for the record, a fox news poll and the head of the Foreign Relations committee and several others questioning his ability. Not me. Solid as a rock. Look at that. Hes solid as a rock. But however, of 30 f. This has been one of the most forly used august resources that i can imagine for the president. As willie said, he has intended to common your. I