Push for criminal justice reform. That same senator obama became president and convinced Newt Gingrich and i to go on the road together around education. If you have a big enough vision you can work with people that dont agree with you. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. When in doubt, throw em out. Are lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. Let me start with this. Out, out damn spot. How do we rid this country of president obama, erase his name from the history books from the history of our president s. How did we put a giant asterisk next to him so future generations will never believe
the name barack obama believed in the list of american president s. First they tried to say he wasnt born here. Then they set about ruining a chance he had to build a president ial record. They wanted barack obama to do one thing leave. Then of course they tried defiting him for reelection. They got down on their knees, nominated a kennedy to oppose him who they didnt like. Didnt trust. His one selling point was he was the best bet to do what they set their hearts on. Get barack obama out of the white house. Now with the years of the second term passing away comes the last gasp of obama haters. They want to impeach him. Certainly smear him with a mark of oh personal condemnation. They are changing the reasons. There is no surprise. The reason for wanting obama destroyed wasnt a question of it but who. Its not that he brought us back from the economic abyss, getting Osama Bin Laden but that he dared enter the office and sit
in the chair. For his nasty enemies and those that cheer him that moment can never be forgiven or forgotten. The the quest to bring down barack obama will never come to an end, it seems. Michael steele is an msnbc political analyst. Michael tomanski is a correspondent for the daily beast. This impeachment thing. Lets look at the numbers there. This is not a small rogue group of republicans. Right now according to to the cnn poll, should president obama be impeached . Look at this number. 57 when im kicked to the curb. The rest of the country, as a whole, 65 dont agree with that thinking at all. How do you put it together . I think the difference between the Republican Party and the American People. We are clearly out of step. My attitude is there are enough
other things to talk about with foreign policy, the economy, jobs, all of that that dont rise to this level of impeachment. If you want to give the house back to the democrats, dont want the senate back and want to take yourself out of any contention for president ial politics in 2016, file the articles of impeachment tomorrow. Go ahead and do it. You want to see that. If youre sitting on the congressman well get to example a. If you are sitting in office do you want to say as you go into a general election and a district thats fairly even, not a slam dunk republican district, do you want to announce for impeachment now . No. This is the last thing you want to talk about. Unless your district is bleeding red, this is the last thing any republican in elected office wants to talk about going into the fall campaign. Why . Because the American People dont give a damn about this issue. They are concerned that they dont know what obamacare will look like. Its worse. They dont want you to say it because you dont want to say it. Before primaries, fine. Once the primaries are behind them, they are facing a general election. According to our numbers, 65 of the people which may include a majority in tough red states, they think this is jackass behavior, some guy on a bar stool. Give me another beer and impeach that bastard. Somebody in your carpool. Thats not what you are supposed to behave like as a congress person. 57 of the base voters. John boehner doesnt want to say it and other republicans running for senate in nonconservative states dont want to say it. Steve scalise was on television. We have the tape. Oh, you do. Lets watch the tape. We love it. Writes in the post, however
republican candidates come down on impeachment they are doomed to alienate either the gop base or moderate voters ahead in the november midterms. Well said. Take a look at the newly elected whip Steve Scalise on yesterdays Fox News Sunday doing what he can avoid to avoid taking a clear position. Chris wallace did a good job. Lets watch. Will you consider impeaching the president . You know, this might be the First White House in history thats trying to start the narrative of impeaching their own oh president. Ultimately we want the president to follow the laws. The president took an oath to faithfully execute the laws of the land and hes not. Impeachment is off the table. The white house wants to talk about it. They are trying to fundraise off that, too. Im asking you, sir. The white house will try to change the topic from the president s failed agenda. I like the way chris did it po litly. Im asking you, sir. I would have said, answer the question. That makes my point. He was standing on a beach ball. Its a hard thing to do. He and others recognize the idea of impeachment, one, furthers the narrative for the base and, two, is a fundraising tool. Beyond that it doesnt have serious traction. As i go back to my point if you want to do it then file the articles of impeachment and sew see how the American People respond. The mere talk about it which they are all doing and people believe is to smear the guy. Sure. Its smearing the president. 67 of voters who dont want it to happen. Its their nature. Why does a scorpion sting . This is why. They are going to do it. They are going to do it at some point. I used to think maybe if they got the didnt get the senate back they probably wouldnt bother because they couldnt get
a senate conviction. I have changed that. They dont have to impeach. There would be an a asterisk by his name. They have used benghazi, the death ceiling, gitmo, the border crisis, syria, you name it, to threaten president obama. People in the white house never appeared to take them seriously. Its changing. This is dan pfeiffer friday speaking about the Republican Partys impeachment fever. A lot of people in town laugh that off. I would not discount the possibility. Speaker boehner, by going down the path of the lawsuit has opened the door to considering impeachment at some point in the future. I think the president acting on Immigration Reform will up the
likelihood that they would contemplate impeachment at some point. Wow. White House Press Secretary josh ernest isnt laughing it off. Hes sparring with reporters on friday who openly wondered if the democrats used impeachment to raise money by themselves. Do you believe the president could be impeached . I think there are senior members of the republican political party, certainly prominent voices for exactly that. It sounds like a fund raising, political ploy, not a real thing. You dont think the president will be impeached, do you . There are some republicans including some running for office hoping to get into office to impeach the president. That is a view they have because its one they have repeatedly expressed publically. Well, one of my favorite columnists from the new york
times attacked the crusade against president obama. He described this. There is an insatiable vengeance lust for the haugty president who refuses to bend under pressure or fold under duress. He must be brought to heel. He must be chastened. He must be broken. So House Republicans are throwing the red hemeat into th cage. They are. This is not what the country wants. The country doesnt want you throwing red meat. They want you solving problems. You keep telling me this. Why is your former confreres on that side doing it . You talk about two different strata of activism here. You have the congressional leadership who as you saw with scalise, they are not feeling it. Why not answer the question . Hes on the beach ball. If he goes, no, im not for impeachment, three minutes after that the tea party has a new
candidate. If he says, we are for impeachment, guess what happens testimony fredo. Lets talk about fredo. Sitting there. John boehner said when luke russert asked him rather than suing the president he said, i disagree. At least fredo stood up. He has to. What else will he do . Im talking about the brother in the godfather. Fredo was the weak brother. Hes my brother, but hes weak. He was the only one who has to say no. I guess mcconnell has to say no. They can dance on the vehicle as much as they like. Steve king comes back to say if he tries to deal with it unilaterally i will support articles of impeachment. This is the game that will be played. We have to finish this up. Lets be prophets. Will the boehner going with the
alternative to sue the president satisfy the right wing . It should. It likely wont because they will stoke the flames on impeachment. Still . Still. Right wing will stay quiet through november but absolutely not ultimately. It will come up at town meetings before the election and they will stand on the beach ball. We have created a metaphor. Thank you. Coming up, senator rand pauls pitch for africanamerican votes. We havent seen a republican do this since the days of jack kemp. He was a great man. Can the libertarians turn blacks against Big Government . Interesting stuff. Also, 99 days to go for the midterm elections. Can the democrats hold the senate . And have women in both parties broken the Glass Ceiling . I believe its true in many states. Plus, barack obama thrilled democrats where the keynote
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government is not your friend is the message. The jury out whether it will sell with voters, especially africanamerican voters. As the photo showed there were quite a few empty chairs in the room. The paper describes it this way. Row after row of empty chairs. The space didnt look much fuller after one of the organizers urged people seated near the back to fill in the front row. He didnt get primetime billing. She spoke 589 30 on friday morning. Not primetime. Joining me is eugene robin sonde and michelle robinson. Gene, as a veteran of the wars and talking about the africanamerican vote in particular hes trying to make the case where Big Government has been helpful in economic programs and support programs. Theres times when it is your enemy. One is a felon for life. If you committed a crime, say a holdup at 18 and clean up your life, you are never a full citizen again. He says well get rid of that. He and booker. If they lost an appeal to africanamerican voters Big Government is bad. Not the way to do it. To make specific points. Why didnt a democrat think of that . We can get into the numbers but africanamericans have been voting democrat. Why didnt an official say this fe mon thing is too general, too permanent, kills hope. There are democrats working on it. Cory booker. And people in virginia. States around the case. You lose your Voting Rights more or less permanently. Democrats have taken the africanamerican vote for
granted. We know likely africanamerican wills vote the democratic ticket. Democrats have the big tent. This is smart for rand paul. Very smart. Do you think it will work . Next year at this time will he be saying it . Thats the key. Will he stick at it . Im going to bet this Time Next Year he will be saying the same thing because hes gone out. Saying the same thing over and over again. Hes a libertarian and believes it. There was a time when republicans got a fairly respectable slice of the black vote. In 1956, 39 of africanamerican voters went for the republican. It was dwight eisenhower. By 1964, following the signing of the Civil Rights Act the black vote had fallen off the vote for republicans. Republicans share of the black vote remained in the Single Digits for decades. In 2012 the republican share was at the dismal 6 . Its interesting. You and i know this. The forfeiting of the black vote, a third of the vote, then 10 because of the way they handled the 60s. That was the party of lincoln. Construction. Right. But that Republican Party allowed the Democratic Party the to be the party of civil rights. Democrats in my part of the country took a while. I wouldnt let the democrats off easy. The 1964 civil rights bill. The most important thing done by congress in our lifetime. Overwhelmingly for it. The democrats had a lot of people against it. Anyway. I dont have the numbers here. Look, those democrats were dixiecrats who were against desd desegregation. 27 of 33 republicans, all but 6 voted for the Civil Rights Act. Kennedy and johnson had to work hard to get the legislation passed. It was never a done deal. What happened to the Republican Party in the north that was all for civil rights . It was taken over by the loudest, most racist elements of the pear. When reagan talked the same language as George Wallace about believing in states rights, i think just about at that time they forfeited the africanamerican vote. Or the young buck using food stamps for vodka or gin. If that ever happened it was in Readers Digest somewhere. The southern strategy made the Republican Party the refuge for die hard racists and
segregationists. Thats where they went. Senator paul has been through a lot of debates. Here was paul. He has work to do to win the africanamerican votes. In 2010 when he was running for the senate in the first place, rand paul told the Editorial Board of the louisville journal he had concerns with the parts of the civil rights bill of 1964. Here is part of that. Under your philosophy, it would be okay for dr. King not to be served at the counter at wo woolworths . I would not go there. I would stand up in the community and say it is abhorrent. But the hard part is if you believe in the First Amendment, for example, you have to for example, most good defenders of the First Amendment would believe a group saying awful things. We are here at the bastion of newspaperdom. Im sure you believe in the First Amendment. People can say bad things. In a free society we tolerate boorish people. Casey hunt reminded senator paul of the position after declaring support for the Civil Rights Act to the urban league. You noted in the speech you support the Civil Rights Act but specifically do you think private businesses should be allowed to discriminate based on race . No. So you have changed from when you said before you were concerned about that i never said before. When i first heard the comment i thought, what a it in wit. Could he be an honest man who said i had concerns until the use of the commerce claus to the use of civil rights . He shouldnt have said it politically. Intellectually he could have believed it. I take him for his word. I dont think you will see a
large drove of africanamericans decide to register republican. Hes gotten smart. In the era of trayvon martin, my son is with me. There is not a black mother thats going to hear what rand paul is saying about crime and laws and negative impact they have on africanamericans, particularly black boys and not think twice about whether or not she should listen to what hes saying and how it might impact the lives of her children. His position on Civil Rights Act now has to be, that wasnt me. It was another guy. This is something i have extrapolated from what hes doing. Hes nimble. He moved from intellectual opposition to political support. Hes do the same things with the hawks of foreign policy. I believe it will be tougher in the middle east. Hell move to the hawkish side. Not let the Establishment Republicans paint him. Imagine in 2016 on civil
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So just as your capital is welcome here to produce goodpaying jobs in the u. S. , i would like our capital to be welcomed there and there to be freedom of capital. So that both sides are on the same territory and i ask cooperation, commitment and priority from your government in so doing. Can i have that . I think your question is to the indian government. We certainly share your sentiments and we certainly will advocate that on behalf of the u. S. Oops. Congressman clawson was questioning two senior u. S. Government officials. Once john oliver caught that he was going to pounce. And he did. My favorite part of it other than absolutely everything is mr. Kumar who is absolutely loving the whole thing. Hes leaning back in his chair going, oh, this guy is awesome. Please, nobody tell him. Ive got ten buck which is says hes about to compliment me for my role in slumdog millionaire. Clawson later apologized in a statement he made in usa today saying, i made a mistake in speaking before being fully briefed. I apologize. Im a quick stud, but in this case i shot an air ball. I believe thats a good save. Last week we told you darth vader had a higher Approval Rating than all of the current potential 2016 president ial rates. Hillary clinton showed her savvy on why she lost to the villain. One final question. What do you make of the fact that darth vader is polling ahead of every potential president ial candidate . Whats the deeper meaning . I think the deeper meaning is people love fantasies. Sometimes when we are so frustrated with the gridlock in washington we would like some figure. Dallasft. Worth wouldnt be my choice. Perhaps a slightly more positive attitude than his presentation cotom in and just fix it. If you dont like that hillcally find yourself another candidate. Thats what shes really like. Somebody with a more positive attitude . 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They have three big thing going for them, all national. One, history. Recently in the sixth year of party terms in the white house that party averages a loss of six seats in the senate. Also is president obamas popularity which isnt great. Just 41 . Could go up or down. Its now at 41. Not good. 63 of the country, according to the same poll says the country is headed in the same direction. Are we happy or not . Do we want to vote yes or no . Its a no. So the democrats are certainly in a fight for the senate. Here is how it looks with 99 days to go. Republicans need six seats to win. They are assured of winning in three democratic seats now. West virginia, south dakota, montana. Four democrats are in competitive races in spate state where is president obama is unpopular. Really red. North carolina, arkansas,
louisiana and alaska. Joing the at risk states are four of the same likely democrats all along. Now competitive. New hampshire is a long shot for the republicans. Michigan certainly is at play now. Iowa very much up 50 50. So the colorado. They could go either way. The democrats could offset republican chances by picking up seats in either two sets held by republicans now. Georgia where my nel nunt is running and kentucky where you have a real shot with Allison Grimes going after mitch mcconnell. Joining me are nya henderson with the Washington Post and amy walter who eat this is stuff for breakfast. Senior editor. You know more than i do. Thank are you. I appreciate that. Thats huge. I should leave now. Thats called patronizing. When you look at the states i see the usual problems. In the conservative states they want to vote against obama and
this is their choice. Where do you see the democrat bucking that . You see are even though people in louisiana or alaska or North Carolina or arkansas dont like the president they will say, yeah, but i like this guy or this woman. Mark begich is trying to localize the race successfully. Part of the reason is there is not a nominee yet. Isnt there they have to have a primary. Theres been a lot of focus on mark begich not yet on the republican. There is a down side. We know one other thing. Once a party picks a nominee. They poll less. They unite. Theoretically. Landrieu is doing the same thing. Shes running didnt she get a big endorsement . She got big oil there. She shes pro keystone. Right. She has a big chairmanship as
well. You do see folks incumbents running loek lieds races but also using the power of incumbency to say, listen, im the folks who have the chairmanships, who can get stuff done in washington. You have sentiments i share occasionally. I think there is optimism on the way. I dont know about the Glass Ceiling for president. If hillary wins it, it could be smashed. There are states it doesnt hurt you to be the woman. Gillibrand and so on. Regardless of part im looking at joanie ernst running the castrating hogs ad. Thats a funny way to get the name out there. Terri lynn land, ernst, landrieu, kay hagan, nunn and grimes. Could it be womens issues can help a candidate . This is the best time of all to be an outsider. Ernst and land can pr portray themselves as, im not part of that mess in washington and they are running against male members of congress who are part of the mess. Is that why they say hog castrator. Is it funny or does it say im tough, funny, i have a sense of humor . What does it say . It says im from iowa. Where else do we talk about it. After that came out, reading the local papers almost every candidate had to come in and they were asked what they did on a farm. One said, i pulled chicken feathers. Well, i started with lincoln being the rail splitter. Its the idea of populism. Is it a plus or minus or neutr neutral . You will see democrats ramp up the war on women. Especially in colorado. North carolina where you have a woman against a man. Virginia. Could you believe the debate between ed gillespie and mark warner, two guys and the headline in your paper was all about a womens issue. The last question raised as an after thought to the moderator, not him. They are looking at the last virginia Gubernatorial Race where womens issues have been pivota pivotal. You have planned parenthood talking about abortion, Birth Control. Mainly Birth Control. You have fresh issues here. Democrats hope the supreme courts hobby lobby decision was game changing. Once again raising the profile of womens rights as a Campaign Issue they hope will draw single women to the polls in november. They made the difference in the republicans first electoral off year test. That was the race where Terry Mcauliffe beat Ken Cuccinelli by
30 point ace among unmarried women. Look at colorado which has become ground zero for the fight over womens issues. And mark udall is painting gardner as an extremist. This is one of the ads. Because this matters it is important you hear from from me. My opponent led a crusade to make Birth Control illegal and sponsored a bill to make abortion a felony, even in cases of rape and incest. His record is beyond troubling. It is wrong. We are talking about your rights as women, families, coloradans. You have the right to live life on your own terms. I have learned women dont like men talking about their reproductive rights. They like women making the the decisions. Im talking politics, not constitution here. This is the same message that worked in virginia with two men. It worked in colorado the last cycle. This was Michael Bennets attack against ken buck in colorado. Is this the ace in the hole for democrats . Listen. It matters when the candidate they are running against is proven to be too far, too extreme. The problem for democrats though is what is the other issue that single women are worried about . Its the economy, the direction of the country. Thats the one depressant on this. Is it enough to say, oh, here they go again on Birth Control or abortion when they are saying i have been hearing this for six years. Nothing is changing for me. Democrats in the southern states, these are more conservative evangelical states. May not work in louisiana or North Carolina. Keep coming back. Keep reporting. Thank you. Up next, we are hoping reality collides. Ten years since an unknown barack obama thrilled che eed d at the Democratic National convention and all thats happened since. This is hardball, the place for politics. Dig into a succulent selection of crab entrees. Like new crab lovers trio with sweet snow crab legs, split king crab, and jumbo lump crab over savory shrimp. Crab three ways all on one plate. Or try new jumbo lump crab over woodgrilled salmon. Experience crabfest at red lobster today. Only for a limited time. Come in and sea food differently water dripping and dont juspipes clanging ncisco. Visit tripadvisor San Francisco. soothing sound of a shower with millions of reviews, tripadvisor makes any destination better. If your denture moves,
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spee speech. Now every politician gets help with his speech. That was a piece of work. With all that changed many the past ten years, some for the better, some for the worse, it is hard to recognize the America Barack obama envisioned in the speech. That vision of america is still an aspiration. Editor of the national memo. Com and willie brown, mayor of San Francisco at the time. Mayor brown, thank you for the brilliant thinking back then and what you are thinking now. Whats changed . One thing i will advertise that people are forgetting. In 2004 when he gave the speech we hated the war but the economy wasnt screwed up. The Great Recession came in 2008 and 2009 and stayed through 2011. The drop in the economic situation, thats a huge part of this. He had nothing to do with it. But it hurt the way he came on stage as president. Your thoughts . I do believe the speech was
extraordinary. As a matter of fact, it came long before i thought we would have been addressing the people of america in that way. Imdid, and im glad america responded appropriately. However, he has run into a buzz stone that is you just theres no way to explain how all those things contained in that speech, the dreams, the goals contained in that speech, weve not been able to achieve. Yeah. Let me go to joe on this. Joe, i dont know whether people it was the economy, i think rocked this country to its heels. The rich, the poor, the middle just cant believe what happened to us in 08, 09 and 10. Got worse, almost double digits. Also i think the fact they liked him as the first africanamerican president , as the nonpartisan guy he was in that speech. He was a keynesian, believed in a big Stimulus Program. He really wanted a Health Care Program and he did it. I think that probably shocked
the center. My god, this guys a liberal, they werent ready for it. Thats my thinking. Well, i guess thats partly true, though. Chris, you have to consider they gave him a republican Health Care Program. He gave them the heritage foundation, you know, Health Insurance program. The one that you and i know that. It was sold by the enemy as the worst socialism in the world. You know that. I understand that. You know, what he tried to do i think was consistent with the speech. The Stimulus Program was more than the republicans liked. It was less than we actually needed. I think the president tried very hard to find republicans who would support him on a lot of these issues, and he couldnt because the Republican Party has changed quite a bit since he gave that speech, chris. You know, when he was in the senate, couple of years a year or so after that speech was delivered, he was mentored by dick lugar. Republican from indiana who had since been driven out by the tea party republicans. You know, the republicans that he was thinking about when he gave the speech saying theres no red america, theres no blue america, theres the red, white,
and blue america, is not a Republican Party anymore. Now its a republican pear thart wants to talk about impeaching this president. Lets talk about that from both sides and be down the middle here. There are two points of view you hear all the time. One is its obamas fault because hes not a schmoozer. Well get to the bad guys side in a minute. You, now, speak on television, speak in a bigroom, but youre renowned for the backroom stuff. Is that something we didnt see . I think hes without that kind of a skill. And america probably now knows that. Hes not a good fighter. He really does start with what ought to be the end of process, where hes convinced everybody to buy in. He starts with the ideal, and the ideal never, never, never comes off if you begin with it. You have to work, you have to build toward it. He doesnt have the skills to do that. Lets go to the other side,
joe conason. The other side made a decision early on, im going to get this at the end of the show, to screw this guy. They didnt want this guy to be successful. They want him to be an asterisk. They didnt like him from the beginning. Mitch mcconnell plotted that from Election Night on. These guys wanted to make his presidency not exist somehow. Is it their fault or the lack of schmooze . Did he have to be more willie brown, more Lyndon Johnson . Mix it up. Try to give me a what do you think is the lacking here . More Lyndon Johnson would have been good. President s dont have the power Lyndon Johnson had anymore. A tougher approach to the republicans might have worked better. I think he does, as mayor brown said, he starts from the ideal. What reason should get you, you know, how you can put forward an argument, how you can get to the point where you want to be, and without realizing what you just said which is that they were not
interested in that. They wanted to destroy him from the beginning, and if youre facing an adversary like that, you know, there are certain tactics and strategies that you have to adopt in order to fight them. Chris, theres almost 25 seconds, mayor. Is it worse now politics than even he imagined ten years ago . Oh, i think much worse. Mayor brown . Chris, i think theres one factor, though, that most of us dont like to address. The question of race is still paramount in the minds of a number of People Holding public office. And barack obama represents the rejection that they would like to impose upon people of color. And they have the opportunity to do that and they disguise it as lots of other things. Mayor brown, my friend, my hero, wait until you hear how i say this at the end of show. I completely agree with you. Ive been watching this baby. This is not all about politics. Please allow me to say i also agree. Got to go. Thank you, joe. Thank you, mayor brown. Thanks for coming on. Well be right back. R your brav. Thank you colonel. Thank you daddy. Military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa Auto Insurance can be one of them. If youre a current or former military member or their family, get an Auto Insurance quote and see why 92 of our members plan to stay for life. Since robert taira openedsion kings hhis first bakeryd, in a small hawaiian town. Making bread so good, that people bought two loaves one to take home, and one to eat on the way. So good, they grew from here. To here. To here. But to grow again, to the east coast they needed a new factory, but where . Fortunately, they get financing from ge capital. We not only have teams dedicated to the food industry, were also part of ge, a company thats built hundreds of factories. So we could bring in experts to help kings hawaiian make sense of transportation routes, supply chains, labor pools, and zoning to help them make the right decision. And, id like to think, to make their founder proud. If you just need a loan, just call a bank. At ge capital, were builders. And what we know, can help you grow. Weits not justt wed be fabuilding jobs here,. Its helping our community. Siemens location here has just received a major order of wind turbines. It puts a huge smile on my face. Cause im like, this is what we do. the fact that iowa is leading the way in wind energy, im so proud, like, its just amazing. Let me finish tonight with this. Ten years ago, barack obama came upon the American Public as a breath of fresh air. He spoke in ways that awakened our hopes, broke through the clouds of cheap politics and stormy rhetoric. We heard him, and elected him our president. Not juf the minorities and other progressives, not just the africanamericans but many who beamed at the notion of electing one as our president , our
president. How many of us wanted that to be truly the case, who wanted the world to know that the belief that all men are created equal was as alive as the american pulse, that making it real would, indeed, quicken that pulse, make us a more alive democracy . How many of us, did, yes, believe that and still do. But how many other americans saw a different reckoning . When confronted with that name, barack obama, right there on the ballot in front of them. How many saw that name and that face and that man with dread . How could this be . How could this have happened . For this man is not our president. No, he is their president. We will do all in our power to make that deadly clear. We may not do it the day hes in office, but we will surely get to it as sure of the turning of the earth, well get to it. Well get it written down somewhere that there was some mistake. Someone left the gate open and this man got himself into the oval office. You dont believe this . Check the numbers. 57 of the Republican Party wants this man run out of office and thrown to the curb. They cant come up with a reason he deserves impeachment, but
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