and in my opinion, and this is my opinion, the governor appointments the board of education and members of the board of governors and the governor appointments most of the members of the trustees and they appoint the president and the deans. so it's hard to say. i'm not here to point the finger at any particular person? you're saying above. >> it was coming from above. i lump them together. >> and, you know, fernan my friend, above in florida, i lived there 14 years. you and i have known each other for a long time. we know what above means in florida. ron desantis made it clear he does not want covid to be real or believe it real and feels like it's a flu and doesn't care. he's appointed people like the doctor that seems to believe the same thing and embarrassing harvard with those believes and

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