make the supreme court the big issue. the court is not an issue within the democratic party. at least not until this election. but in the past, you could not rally the democratic party faithful over picks of the supreme court, picks to appellate courts, picks to district courts. unlike the way it works in the republican party. because within the republican party and certainly in the conservative movement, getting conservative judges on the bench in, at the high court and in lower courts have been a project for multiple decades. >> okay. but thomason. >> they're getting it. >> then why not? because every single issue we're talking about with this white house ends up in the courts. >> right. >> that itself what i was saying i think up until this election the courts did not play a big role within the party. but i do think the candidates and certainly folks on the hill would be able to make the argument to the democratic party faithful that they have to have the court in mind when they're