Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight 20180901 : c

Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Tucker Carlson Tonight 20180901

Congress should be doing that but they are not. They are using power and influence to shape the world around us. Some of the companies bigger than the entire nation. This show is an examination of the companies and effect they have on our lives our country and politics, the scale of their reach is enormous. And this is finally drawing the attention of policymakers including the president. I think google and facebook and twitter, i think they treat conservatives and republicans very unfairly. I think its a very serious problem because they are really trying to silence a very large part of this country. Those people dont want to be silenced its not right, its not fair. It may not be legal, breast larson has been on the beat for quite some time and is he going to set table for us. All right, tucker. Earlier this week the president sent out a tweet in which he said in part, quote. Google search results for trump news shows only the viewing reporting of fake news media. In other words, they have it rigged for me and others so that almost all stories and news is bad. Now, google was quick to respond to the claim in a statement saying in part, quote search is not used to set a political agenda and we dont bias our results towards any political ideology. As for Google Search works is protected like the recipe for coca cola. Why . If sites knew exactly how exactly the search site worked it would be easier to rig their web content to reach a larger audience. Few things are known about how Google Search works. Google is scanning the web for new pages around the clock. They are looking for a variety of things to ensure that the right pages are delivered to the right people. They check to see that a site is mobile friendly so it renders properly on your smart phone if you are on the go. They also check to make sure that the content is original and not some plagiarized information with a bunch of ads slapped around it but where you go online also effects your search results. As you know and we have reported here before, google keeps track of virtually everything you do. Mainly to ensure they show you the right ads. We have more on our investigation later this hour. But, in this case, its also to ensure youre getting the right search results. As for news search, its a little different. As we know news is happening 24 hours a day. A reliable source is needed for a news story site more content optimized for search higher ranking. A site that gets click through for the results. If, for example, you search for California Wildfires and in the results more people are going to our fox affiliate wktvu their site they will move higher in the rankings, this is where the Mainstream Media has an advantage. Though as they present more middle of the road news without leaning to the left or right they will have a larger reach within those results. Tucker . Tucker depending on who defines who middle of the road is brit, thank you very much we will speak with you later this hour. Yes. I just heard what google says it does. The question is can we trust them. That is the central question. Background on the company. Google just removed famous catchphrase dont be evil from code of conduct earlier this year. Symbolic change but ominous for the most powerful company in google history. Googles market cap is now 860 billion. Thats more than the Gross Domestic Product of almost every country in the world. 170 countries have smaller g. D. P. Es than google. The federal trade Commission Prepared an antitrust case against the tech giant a few years ago. But the Obama Justice department didnt take it. Google now controls roughly 90 of the Search Engine market. 65 of the internet browser market. It controls 85 of the mobile operating systems on the phones in our pockets right now google controls downline ad Market Online advertising that is every single digital news company in the united states. Google has an army of lobbyists in Washington Bank rolls politicians contributing to every major think tank in washington regardless of ideology including hilariously a think tank dedicated to fighting monday nope police. One of those think tanks has fired staff for being critical of google. Question is it may be rhetorical is google too powerful to regulate. The author of search and destroy why you cant trust google inc. He joins us now. Scott, i have quickly on the search question that seems like one of the most basic questions all information comes from tiny portal. Google says trust us, we are not putting our thumb on the scale. Can we . No, we cant. Because its blanket trust. Its blind trust because no one does really know what goes on there. The problem is when you put all of access supply and demand to access all of the worlds information through one black box, one thing that we have no transparency to. We dont understand and lets not forget the whole purpose is to rank. To choose that what is best. They said its algorithmic it must be okay. A Computer Program that people decided what to the biases would be their purposeful biases. The problem of google is the fact that we have concentrated all that power in one company because if the most harmful you can imagine. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. In a Constitutional Republic in a free markets the free flow of information and the competition of ideas are paramount and central when you go through one black box and say that is all occurring only here and there is one person that basically sets what the ideology and the approach is going to be, and its larry page and then that filters through, you have a its a very scary situation you want a competition for ideas and sources. He has created unbelievably innovative and great Search Engine. No criticism there in the sense of its capability. But, how the government and i for 10 years have been trying to prevent this monopoly and the government screwed up time and time again in allowing google to become a monda monopoly. Tucker thats for sure. Quickly, news reports have reported that google is working to devise the Search Engine that would help the fascist government of china repress its own people. So, given that we know, we believe we know that they are willing to suppress information on behalf of a government to achieve repressive political ends, why should we trust them not to do that to us . Well, we shouldnt. And my goodness, its as orwellian as it comes. When that was brought up and when somebody who we know criticized google for biasing its search the president of the united states, they said we never make our search results based on a political ideology. They are committing to do it for china, for the entire country. Soup to nuts for everything they are going to bow down to the chinese ideology. Tucker not a big deal a country that executes Political Prisoners and sells their organs seems like the kind of people you would want to help remain in power. How they can say that with straight face and saying they are not bending their will to ideology, they do it all around the world. Tucker they are lying. Scott, you have been fighting a lonely crusade. We are rooting for you. Thank you. Thank you. Tucker european legislators bill millions engaging in anticompetitive practices. American regulators, meanwhile, are nowhere to be found. Why is that exactly . Luther lowe is the Senior Vice President of Public Policy for yep and he joins us now. Luther, thanks for coming. Thanks for having me on. Tucker always particularly happy to talk to you since you write for a big tech company. Really simple question google has a monopoly. Nobody debates that monopolies are supposed to be banned by u. S. Law. A whole congress with 535 people in it designed to protect us from monopolies but they are not. Well, i think there are there is political capture going on. I think if you have a Search Engine clearly guilty of selfserving bias and not the type of selfserving bias that President Trump tweeted about earlier this week im talking about demonstrable, easy to prove bias in the most common area of what we do on google which is local search this should be a slam dunk. We should be able to show consumer harm and, in fact, we have done. So when a mom does a search for a pediatrician in salt lake city, she is basically trusting google to match her with the best information from across the web. Tucker yes, of course. That has been implicit promise to googles users throughout its growth. Whats happened is that google has swapped out that information and put their own interior information there this creates consumer harm and gets back to your question about monopoly. If you show that consumer harm you can easily prosecute antitrust case. This is why we should focus on the business conduct of google. Tucker i agree completely. The monopoly is prima facie and so is the harm. You work in washington on this issue. Doubt ltz you have spoken to members of congress and have you told them what they already know. This is company too powerful it has a monopoly and hurting consumers. How do they respond . I think we are starting to see the tide turn. I was really heartened to see, for example, senator hatchs letter yesterday to the chairman of the federal strayed commission. Where he basically said, listen, you know, we closed the last investigation in 2013. One expects that when you close an antitrust investigation the market is going to be less calcified, that there are going to be, you know, the company in question is going to be less entrenched. There is going to be more startups and so forth. We are seeing the opposite. Maybe we should take another look at this. I think we are beginning to see the tide turn. Tucker good for senator hatch there are 99 other guys in the same chamber. Where are they . What would be the justification i can requestlquickly fornot acting . We have a new slate of ftc commissioners running public hearings now to collect information. Im cautiously on mits stick that woptimistic to reexamine some of these issues if we should. Tucker its a multinational. Foreign threat to our country. Thats my view. Its a National Security threat. Thank you for the work have you done on this. Thank you, sir. Tucker Free Online Services arent actually free. You may have known that they come at a cost. You are paying that cost in privacy. We have got details ahead before nexium 24hr mark could only imagine. A peaceful night sleep without frequent heartburn waking him up. Now that dream is a reality. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for allday, allnight protection. Can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn . You shouldnt be rushed into booking a hotel. 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It will always favor one union line Music Service over another and one candidate over another. Google crosses the creepy line every day. Tucker film comes out september 17th. Peter schweizer, of course, is the man behind the project and he joins us tonight. Peter, first, congratulations on this film. Remarkably appreciate and im sure it will be as remarkable as the last film was. Tell us one of the salient things you learned what blew your mind in researching. This what blew my mind is a couple of things, tucker, first of all the dominance to google has in the marketplace, second of all, google is unlike pretty much almost any other company in the world. What do i mean by that . Sure, theyre moment vacated by profit. They have shareholders and owners. This is a company that at its core is utopian or at least the founders have a utopian vision. They dont view themselves as another company. So when people say oh, google would never manipulate the al gori them and engage in this type of behavior because they dont want to hurt their market share, they dont think in those terms they make decisions all the time that are based on their vision of what is good and right rather than what Consumers Want with the power they have combined with ymism creates the problems we have with censorship and manipulation. Tucker give us a sense. You got to the heart of it. They have a vision is there vision insingh with the views of the average american . What is their vision . They are a vision certainly partly epitomized burning man festival they go to when they hired eric schmidt to be the ceo 15 or so years ago. One of the reasons they picked him is because he went to burning man. This is sort of a secularist religious gathering in the nevada desert. There is a lot of things about traditional values they dont like. There are a lot of views about sort of conservative free market capitalism they dont like. And they have a vision that they want to be transformative. And thats fine. Except they want to be transformative to, i think, an American Public that isnt interested in being transformed by them. And the problem is, tucker, that we dont know what they are doing. We dont know what we dont know. We know the end results we know there is provable evidence. Thats what makes it difficult to get. Tucker they are not american they are multinational despite the fact that al gore owns a lot of stock. Do they see themselves as a company that has an obligation to America Society and American Culture and our economy or no . No, no. They dont. They dont. I think they view themselves as a transformative country they read that statement we dont manipulate the algorithm for political benefit that ricks hollow. Go back five to 10 years ago they were charged with manipulating the algorithm for commercial purposes. Luther lowe was talking about that on the show. What was googles position . It was the same absolute denial. The problem is the european union, federal trade commission, scholars at harvard and elsewhere looked at this and said google is lying. Why should we believe them now. Evidence is overwhelming they are engaging in political manipulation as well. Tucker of course they are and our congress does nothing. Peter schweizer the movie comes out september 17th. Thank you for that. Thanks, tucker. Tucker well, what would happen if the social Media Company started to pick winners and losers in elections . Its not a small question. It could invalidate our democracy instantly. Well investigate that coming up on this special edition of Tucker Carlson tonight. This is not a bed. Its a revolution in sleep. 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