take-down campaign in the lay media and so he didn't want to answer my questions. so he accuses me of fomenting violence. it's a misdirection. he doesn't want to accept that he's a political animal and that everything he does every day is to further his political agenda, not the science. >> martha: he's obviously under pressure. i think that it has been politicized. there's people that are pro fauci and against fauci. at one point you said to him you are the person that is more responsible for the deaths in this country than anyone else. you think that's fair? >> look at this way. i believe this virus originated from a lab that was from the chinese. we don't have 100% proof from that. the evidence is 90/10 that it was from the lab. he said for two years it was president gain of function. they weren't taking viruss that