>> he wasn't even wearing a bra. you could see the rings during a press conference and i defended that, i said i don't want to kink shame. all of our viewers who have rings, i stand with you. i stand by that. what i did not know was that his ring display was actually the least offensive thing about him by far, which is rare to say about someone with nipple rings. >> greg: exactly buried >> usually, you know -- >> greg: nipple rings can often be a cry for help, especially when you pull on them. tyrus. >> feel free to piggyback off of my point! >> you know i can't piggyback. your little legs would just -- -- >> murder. >> i think it's funny when we see mainstream media, they appoint these heroes. cnn's record is getting pretty bad. you've got the michael avenatti