On the same team to get this country moving again. Maybe thats a pipe dream. Know whos . Looking into that story tonight, welcome to risk reward, im Liz Macdonald in for deirdre bolton. Were getting an update on the condition of republican whip steve scalise, hes described as critical and now complicated. Those two indications, critical and complicated conditions, possibly requiring more surgeries. The damage is extensive and dangerous. Doctors say the bullet that tore into his hip traveled across his pelvis, fracturing bones, injuring internal organs and causing severe bleeding. Now the entire scalise family, as well as his congressional aides, will be at tonights baseball game saying thats what steve wants. Were also learning more about the shooter and his violent past as authorities continue to scrub through his cell phone. His home in illinois and his van, and his car. James t. Hodgkinsons arrest record including a history of domestic violence. The 66yearold home inspector was a Bernie Sanders supporter, he loved rachel maddow, he traveled from his home in illinois to alexandria, virginia living out of a van. This happened in and around last march, he shows up. When he gets to alexandria he ramps up antitrump social media rants which he said it is time to destroy trump and co. Back to the baseball game tonight. More than 20,000 seats have been sold and raised more than one Million Dollars already thats double last years amount. Were told over 500 tickets sold an hour. Meantime, President Trump is moving the nation forward by stopping the flood of red tape and doing things like creating jobs including this, redirecting tens of millions of dollars potentially wasted on duplicative government jobs training programs. Also the labor departments blow to budget, directing that taxpayer money to apprenticeships in trades like construction, manufacturing and health care. First, lets take a quick look on the markets. The dow closing down slightly. Tech stocks continuing selloff today, thats a trend since last friday. Back to the ball game tonight. We are going to show you new cell phone video of republican congressman rushing to help wounded steve scalise. You can see it highlighted here. It is truly remarkable footage. You can see them racing across to do all they can to get to their wounded colleague on the field. Lets take this to steve forbes. Steve. This is the heart break of that moment. They didnt know what to do. Bullets are flying, trying to help steve scalise. And noted thankfully many times, the two Capitol Police officers is the reason you didnt have a fullscale massacre. You hear the shots in the video, you can tell the gun was a very powerful one, and a pistol is no match for it, but the police went in there, thankfully the guy got distracted and lives were saved. Liz we also have more detail about the shooter and his background. This comes from the local newspaper in illinois, the Belleville News democrat, quote, his life was struck with tragedy in 1996, foster daughter wanda ashley stock killed herself at the age of 17 in a brutal manner. Ashley doused herself with gasoline and set herself on fire inside her car on a rural road south of belleville. What are your thoughts there . Since we dont know the facts of what actually happened, but this guy, cruel man had a record of abuse with foster children, so lord knows what really happened. Liz he reportedly grabbed one daughter by the hair, right . Yes, and he was a bad neighbor. The neighbor testified last night on tv about this guy shooting in the woods, possibly, could possibly have hit other houses, warned off. Always had sheriffs and Police Officers going to his place because of his behavior, and what the real bottom line is not what he put on his website or on his facebook, but why in terms of these foster children is this record of abuse now coming out. Who approved it . Who checked up on those kids under his care . How did he get them in the first place. Liz those are questions that hopefully will be answered in coming days. Dereliction. Weve seen it in new york city sadly time and time again with foster kids. Liz yes, and seen the poisonous political rhetoric on his social media pages, embedded in there, its time to destroy trump and co. He sent that out in march when he was in alexandria. He came from illinois to there. Every policy, according to whats a toxic environment in d. C. , its like a matter of life and death, right . Bernie sanders says tens of thousands of people are going to die because of obamacare reform. Paris climate deal, mass extinction says jill stein, do you think the rhetoric will be toned down . For the moment, yes, but i guarantee you in a few weeks its going to be ratcheted up again, they cant help themselves. Some people unfortunately, its one thing to lose an election and say we vow to oppose the policies of the president or new congress or whatsoever. When you use such incendiary rhetoric making it sound like you make changes in health care. Youre going to throw millions of young and old people in the streets and in the gutter. No that stuff is so extreme and misleading. Okay, politicians do it, but why the media . Yes its the gotcha politics, the cycle of the d. C. Cycle. Ultimately the only way you deal with it is new norms are established. You step over a line, youre a pariah. Liz its not just gridlock, the toxic gridlock, incumbency is a problem. Some of the leadership is around since the nixon era . Term limits, advocated that when i ran for a Certain Office and its time to dust that off again. Liz clean house, you say clean house. Lets repot the plants once in a while. Liz good to see you, steve. Come back. To someone at scene of the shooting he is getting ready for tonights game. He is republican congressman gary palmer, at the scene 20 yards away from the shooter. Congressman, thank you so much. Were so grateful to see and you have you on the show. Can you put us at the scene . What did you see . We were taking batting practice. Id already batted and was in the field. Steve scalise was at second, i was at short and i heard a gunshot and i immediately yelled to trent, that was a gunshot, and he said, no, and he turned around and the guy was pointing the gun directly at him. Its a miracle he missed trent, and trent yelled get out of here. We started trying to find cover as we were moving across the baseball field. He fired two more shots and one of those hit steve. I saw steve go down, and we sought cover behind a big oak tree outside the fence. Steve dragged himself off the infield dirt, probably 10 or 15 yards into the outfield. We were yelling at him to stay still and stay down, and just, i mean, it was an excruciating time that passed before we could get to him. Liz sir, i could see the heart break that youre feeling, and its just so devastating to see a wounded colleague there, and you want to help them. Were split screening right now, showing footage of the people at the scene, your colleagues racing around trying to help. That must have been so frustrating for you. Well, Brad Wenstrup who is a doctor, was a medic, combat medic in iraq, we were together. The Capitol Police ordered us to move back to another area of cover behind a concrete block building, and brad and i moved to an area where we could see scalise. As soon as the shooter was down, i got to the field as quickly as i can, i could see the emotion in brads eyes as he tended to steve. He kept steve alert, we kept asking questions, fluids in him. Brad was doing all he could to put compression on the wound and stop the bleeding until the paramedics could get there, and i would also like to mention that special agent david blair who was wounded in the gunfight hobbled out to the field. We tried to get him to take a seat on the ground to check his wounds, he refused, he would not leave steves side. Liz that is also more heroism coming out of the story. How is the team feeling now . Well, im sure the emotions liz i understand, sir . The emotions will come out. Liz theyre going to come out. Is there a plan to have a group prayer . I mean weve seen a lot of the Democrats Team praying. Is there a plan for that . We are totally feeling you right now on how hard this is. Go ahead. Yeah, we want to pray with the democrat team. We want to do this for steve, but we want to do this for the country. This is an extraordinarily tragic way to begin this game, the day before, but to come together tonight not as democrats and republicans but as americans and people who believe in our form of government who understand to preserve this form of government, we have to have civil dialogue, and weve got to come together. The countrys coming apart on the edges. Were fraying the culture, and we, i think we are the ones that can set the example for everybody else, including the media, including the people who are doing social media. Including people through the who are really frustrated, were all frustrated, but we have a history of being able to work out our differences, and weve got to demonstrate that tonight, that we can come together. Liz sir, steve forbes and i were just talking about the atmosphere in d. C. Are you saying a rethink, a reset, are you seeing outpouring of support coming into your congressional offices and throughout congress that maybe democrats and republicans can come together and unite for once to move the country forward . Your final thoughts. That is my hope and aspiration, and as much as its up to me, im going to make every attempt to do that. I understand elections have consequences, one party is going to have a majority, the other is not. Both parties in and out of majorities. But my aspiration is to try to work with my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. Were the majority, were going to try to move our agenda, but i want to be sensitive to what they think and see if we can find a way to Work Together to move our country forward. Liz congressman gary palmer, thank you very much for your time. Good luck tonight, hope you hit a few. Thank you very much. Liz thanks again. President trump signing a new executive order today redirecting federal money, likely potentially wasted. Weve got four dozen overlapping jobs training programs. Hes redirecting that money towards apprenticeships in things like potentially highpaying jobs, construction, health care, manufacturing. Wouldnt you know there are six million jobs in the united states. The president is blasting a witchhunt, a new report that says special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating the president for obstruction. Lets get back to the report we have coming in about the shooter james hodgkinson. We know he hated republicans. He supported Bernie Sanders. He loved rachel maddow. He drove his white van from illinois to alexandria, virginia to attack the congressional baseball game. Next up, the republican congressman who represents that district that the shooter lived in, he says his office got ten calls from the shooter. Hes congressman mike boss. 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We appreciate it. Congressman bost thank you for having me on. Liz what was he contacting your office about . Congressman bost every issue that was the issue of the day. There were ten communications, actually nine of them were by email. One was by phone, and they were he didnt agree with my positions but they were never aggressive in nature. Weve looked through them. We combed through them. Probably the most aggressive one was if you vote for this, well remember you. That means to me, ill remember you in the next election, not that Something Like this would happen. Were very, very close on trying to watch closely, we have had times in our office that somebody crosses that line and we have to call the Capitol Police. Yesterday morning, we were only an hour after the shooting, right after it was happening, we got the call from the Capitol Police, mentioned his name to us and said, okay, what do you know about him . I thought he was in the district. They said hes the shooter. Instantly we started checking our records. Those ten times over 11 months he has been in contact. But like i said, they were by no means aggressive in nature. Liz did they sound unhinged in any way . Congressman bost no. Liz strange, right . His calls never appeared threatening and you would have informed Capitol Police as you have done in other instances. Have you spoken to him personally or anybody in your office . Congressman bost no, like many offices around the nation since this election, you have protesters that are outside. He may have been a part of those. We dont know that for sure, but he was active with the groups in the area, and he was a political activist, so what was your initial reaction when you heard he was from your district . Congressman bost it was my chief who brought it up after he talked to the Capitol Police. Your heart sinks because your emotions are running wild. Yesterday morning there was a group of us in a prayer meeting and a staffer came in and said scalise had been shot. I said hes at the ball field, and we know, and things boiled after that. We were in the middle of that, including calling our spouses and children and family and telling them im not there, its okay. Were trying to figure out whats going on, and all of a sudden im the first one before the press, theyre calling me and saying what do you been this guy . Hes from your district, so we have heard from congressman marcia blackburn, Claudia Tenney from new york, they get threats routinely. Do you personally get threats . Sure, i have had them over the years. Liz are they getting worse . The threats increasing in number. Congressman bost remember, im only in my second term. Theyre worse than i had in the statehouse, lets say that. So you know, but weve got to stop this. We really do. You know what . And ive said this so many times to the media. With this job, conflict is inevitable. Combat is optional. Were going to discuss, were going to debate. We may even become frustrated but weve got to show that we can Work Together even if we disagree, the system is set up for people to disagree but come together as a nation. Weve got to stop all of this. Now is it social media . Is it the 24 Hour News Network . Its a whole lot put together. And we have to be the ones to take the lead and show that, look, i might disagree on this policy, but that doesnt mean i hate you. It means they disagree. Liz exactly. Congressman bost so weve got to get through this because, look, i didnt vote for the former president , and you know what i served with him in the state of illinois, but it wasnt that same rhetoric and just the vitriol. Liz the gotcha. Congressman bost yeah, and with your former, when you were talking with gary, the gotcha moments. Weve got to have governing moments. Liz exactly. A great point. The d. C. Media cycle of gotcha politics because the media knows they want that. Its good tv, they think, and some politicians play into it. Congressman mike bost, you made terrific points. Good luck to you. Congressman bost thank you. Liz under way, the 117th u. S. Open Golf Tournament in erin hills, wisconsin. Look whos here, liz claman, erin hills, it was a blimp, all this stuff happening out there, whats going on . Reporter yeah, but you know what . In the end, im not sure the u. S. Golf association could have hoped for a better day. Look at this. Sunshine, clouds, not too boiling and what do we have . We have 152 amateurs and pros among the best in the world right here in wisconsin, and its fascinating for the people of wisconsin because its the first time theyve ever been able to land a pro golf and amateur Golf Tournament such as the u. S. Open and quite a day of play. Let me get you caught up. Rickie fowler is in the lead. 7under par, for those of you who dont know golf, hes doing extraordinarily well. He ties with jack nicklaus, and i believe it was Tom Weisskopf back in 1980, maybe, they were the last ones to have 7 under par for this tournament or any opening round in relation to par. Listen, you have to go back several dozen years to get to this point. Good for rickie fowler. Jason day, 2over par. One of the big surprises on this gorgeous day is Dustin Johnson who won last year and going for a second win had somewhat of a rough day. Heres what he told fox business. Listen. Little bit of a struggle today. Felt like i played pretty well, three putted a few times and shot a few over. But im still right there in the mix. I need to go out tomorrow and shoot a good score. Reporter dont count out Dustin Johnson. He is very, very favored in certain groups of people around here. They absolutely love him, and he would be, if he wins this one, the next golfer to win backtoback wins of the u. S. Open since Curtis Strange nearly 30 years ago, theres a lot of excitement here, lizzie, a huge business story, 35,000 people coming every single day. 120 millions to the region. Lots of commerce, lots of schmoozing. Corporate tents, some cost 325,000. Lexus has 600 vehicles roaming around here, letting people test drive them. Can you imagine the uber people arent too thrilled, theyre letting people test drive them. That could change as the crowds get bigger over the weekend. You can watch all of this on fox sports as it plays out. Its exciting, have you amateurs and pros, theres the moment, whos this new guy . Liz by the way, liz, you look good out there in green on the greens of the u. S. Open. Thank you, liz claman. Good to see you. Reporter thank you. Liz a bipartisan push on capitol hill to potentially unify after that horrific shooting yesterday. And this story for you, the media pointing out that politics is lethal right now. We have economist and nixon speechwriter ben stein here with us next, dont go away. Cat so i moved my meeting saw him walk that day he was talking fore i knew it, and as he grew hed say im gonna be like you, dad you know im gonna be like you and the cats in the cradle and the silver spoon Little Boy Blue and the man in the moon. Thithis is the new new york. E . Think again. We are building new airports all across the state. New roads and bridges. New mass transit. New business friendly environment. New lower taxes. And new University Partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. Learn more at esd. Ny. Gov. Liz politicians on capitol hill now calling for unity as the media points out the gridlock has gone toxic. We have a headline from the New York Times, it reads, quote, americas lethal politics. Daily times reads reaction to shooting reveals a nation that doesnt just disagree, it hates. The boston globe after alexandria shooting, both parties owe the nation a more civil dialogue. How do the markets react . News stocks, mostly mixed today. Dow tipping slightly in the red today. Lets bring in economist ben stein, he joins me now. Good to see you. Ben nice to see you, thank you. Liz gridlock on toxic. What are your thoughts . Ben i think the leftist media has done the most masterful bait and switch job, instead of this story being a crazed leftist Bernie Sanders supporter attacks a group of republicans, its, oh, no, its an attack on all of us, kumbaya, weve got to come together. Its great. Have a kumbaya moment as long as it can possibly last. I doubt if anyone would have predicted the media would say lets come together. If it had been a republican attacking a group of democrats, it would have been hysteria, the end of the world as my friend rene says. The end of the world. If its a democrat attacking a group of republicans, its a kumbaya moment. Liz we had congressman brown saying theres been heated rhetoric, i dont want to blame him. Ben heated rhetoric . Heated rhetoric. I think what Kathy Griffin did should put her in prison. With the severed head of donald trump is a clear incitement to murder, in my opinion, im not a judge, but a clear incitement to murder, im saying this over and over again. Liz im sorry im moving quickly along, there are astonishing tweets from the Washington Post writer malcolm harris, hes tweeting this after the shooting he also tweeted this what are your thoughts there . Ben i think this person must not be feeling very well, i dont know who he is. And im not a psychiatrist, but dont think hes quite right in the head. Its just an opinion, im not a psychiatrist. Liz he writes for the Washington Post. Ben totally confused. Well, the Washington Post, i used to work for the Washington Post, i have a certain fondness of them. They have become a hate organ of the worst magnitude, worse than the New York Times to. Say this is an issue which has nothing to do with politics is ridiculous. Hollywood and the Mainstream Media have been leading this poor crazy mr. Hodgkinson down this path for a long, long time. That being said, if it can be a kumbaya moment and last, it would be wonderful. But the media does not take us in that direction, saying the New York Times has a headline saying this is business as usual in america. It is not business as usual. This is an assassination attempt. Liz thats the d. C. Media Business Model is gotcha politics because they think that makes great tv. Final thought, ben. Ben my final thought is that we should probably have a policeman or policewoman attached to each congressman, if it costs 75 million a year, its worth it. Liz ben stein, thanks for coming on the show. 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I have long advocated this is not what today is about, but there are too many guns on the street. We lose 93 million americans a day to gun violence. Ive long talked about this. Background checks shutting down gun show loopholes, thats not for todays discussion, but its not just about politicians. We worry about this every day for all of our citizens. We lose 93 million americans a day to gun violence. [inaudible] 93 million 93 individuals a day. Liz all right, thats questionable, 93 million a day. Were going to get into that in a moment. Lets look at how gun stocks are doing, ruger, shot spotter ending in the red. American outdoor brands closing in the green. Lets bring in gun rights advocate and conservative radio host Stacy Washington. Im sure you heard, governor good to see you. 93 Million People a day lost to gun violence . Stacy well, at that rate, we would already be almost through with all the people in the country, there is only 314 million americans total, that takes less than a week to wipe out everybody. Liz he then corrected himself. He did correct himself, he said 93 individuals a day. Its interesting. Stacy sure, but that is liz yeah, go ahead. Stacy that includes suicides, that includes gang violence. If were going to do apples to apples comparisons only do Mass Shootings and look at the ones that are politically motivated as this one was. Hes offbase there. Liz interesting, virginia has looser gun control laws than washington, d. C. Washington, d. C. Is almost up there in terms of being the murder capital with chicago. What are your thoughts there. Washington, d. C. , has tougher gun control laws than virginia. Stacy they do, theyre not ahead of st. Louis where i live. St. Louis is number one per capita for murder. Chicago is number one total number of murders per year in this country, and washington, d. C. Doesnt do very well but most urban centers have horrible gun control laws that prevent lawabiding citizens from protecting themselves and most urban cities have heavy gun control. Hes really trying to move the state of virginia in a direction virginians dont want to go in and misstep with the numbers is indicative of his lack of real knowledge on the issue. Liz stacy, senator rand paul repeatedly said yesterday it would have been a complete massacre if they waited for more of the authorities to show up. Capitol police were there with guns to take the shooter down. What are your thoughts there . Stacy when i was listening to rand paul talk about that, it struck me hard. First of all my father is in law enforcement. He was talking about the difference between five people, six people being shot and everyone there being gunned down, so the two Capitol Police with representative scalise, that was the lifesaver, it was guns that saved their lives, not gun control, not any of these unicorn fantasies the liberals like to put out about things they can do to protect themselves. The best defense against an attacker is obviously the police, but in the absence of the police, its being armed yourself. Liz good to see you, Stacy Washington. Thanks so much. Stacy thank you. Liz were bringing you this story. Doctors treating the north korea detainee Otto Warmbier, they held a press conference. You remember this. Hes a student. Theyre saying he has a severe brain injury. North korea is saying he had botulism in a sleeping pill. Theyre saying no way. What the North Koreans possibly did after this. Dont go away. Horseheadswivellychair. Com it could be the next big thing i should totally get that domain name. Get your great idea online too. Get your domain today, and get. A free trial of gocentral from godaddy at crowne plaza we know Business Travel isnt just business. Theres this. a bit of this. Why not . Your hotel should make it easy to do all the things you do. Which is what we do. Crowne plaza. Were all business, mostly. Liz welcome back, congressman mo brooks. He was there during yesterdays shooting, he was at scene at that republican baseball practice. He described the difficulty of figuring out what to do when your friend is seriously injured. Now thankfully congressman Brad Wenstrup, a former combat surgeon in iraq, he began attending to steve scalise, he was shot in the hip, condition is critical and complicated. Facing possibly a third surgery from wounds. Lets bring in the ateams dr. Marc siegel. First to congressman scalise, what do you think of his prognosis . Dr. Siegel hard to say, ill tell you what i can say, all about blood loss at this point, liz. With this wound and the bullet entering the pelvis and there being fractures and the fractures involving vital organs in the pelvis whether it was the colon or bladder or rectum or possibly the kidney, whatever it was, the lacerations that were caused or blood vessels that were torn are trying to repair to stop the bleeding and have to follow his blood counts to see if the bleeding has stopped. If they can get the bleeding stopped, the next surgeries and stuff will take place but wont be as urgent. They can fix the fractures later. Liz hell come out of it, you think . Dr. Siegel i cant say. I think theres a pretty good chance hes going to come out of it. I would suspect from the information im hearing from the hospital and from our reporters to the ground, i think theres a good chance hell come out of it. I want to get to the story out of north korea, Otto Warmbier, the student who is home now, and theres been misreporting, you say, on his actual condition. What condition is Otto Warmbier in now . Dr. Siegel of course, i didnt attend and see him. I did hear the whole press conference. What im gleaning from the press conference is that its most consistent with something we call vegetative state where someone is unresponsive. They have brain damage, which it was clear from the doctors report he has atrophy of the brain, diffuse atrophy which is terrible, but not consistent with blunt trauma to the brain. Atrophy of the brain and the eyes blinking is due to vegetative state from lack of oxygen to the brain. Liz north korea said he had botulism, they gave him a sleeping pill and he was in a coma. Dr. Siegel they did an emg test, nerve conduction study, not botulism. They kept pointing out it was most likely from stoppage of breathing. At his age, stopping breathing and the heart stopped. What causes breathing to stop . A lot of the pills, they talked about sleeping pills, if they gave him an overdose, it would have stopped his breathing. Liz one of the doctors said Otto Warmbier has extensive loss of brain tissue in all regions of the brain. Number one, what else would waterboarding cause that . Number two, any sense of whether he will recover from this . Dr. Siegel waterboarding would show damage to the lungs which they didnt talk about. No underlying heart disease. As far as recovering, you could live on like this for a while, even years, but its very, very unlikely hes ever going to wake up. Liz how inhumane was his treatment in north korea. The father said he was brutalized and terrorized. Dr. Siegel i believe thats true. What the doctors pointed out once this happened to him, maybe he was cared for after that. Look what happened. Liz the father put out this warning, and viewers, listen to this, the father criticizing the companies that profit off of young peoples willingness to visit north korea. Hes saying the North Koreans that they lure americans travel to north korea via tour groups run out of china. Hes saying slick ads about this on the internet, theyre saying no american ever gets detained, it is safe, a safe place to go. Your thoughts. Dr. Siegel as a father of a 20yearold i would physically put my body in front of him and not allow him to go. Every viewer would agree with me. Liz good to see you. They are warming up for the congressional baseball game between the democrats and the republicans. You see a shot of the players on the field. President trump has recorded a video message that will be played at tonights game. Getting back to the north korea story. Otto warmbiers father lashing out. Blasted the last Administration Policy of, quote, strategic patience saying thin down, dial it back. Were going to bring in Thomas Mcinerney on that strategy. Hes got a lot to say about it coming up. Earlier this year, sandy and i decided the time for strategic patience was over, and we made a few media appearances and traveled to washington to meet with ambassador joeune at the state department. Aggressively pursued resolution of the situation. They have our thanks for bringing otto home. Liz that was Otto Warmbier, the father of Otto Warmbier, hes lashing out today. Hes blasting the last managers policy of, quote, strategic patience. Basically saying dial it down, we will take care of this. He is essentially saying it was the Trump Administration that helped get his son home. Lets bring in the former air force assistant advice chief of staff, retired Lieutenant General Thomas Mcinerney. Good to see you. Thomas good to see you, liz. Liz the era of strategic patience is over, how good was that for the warmbier family . Thomas excellent liz im talking about the Obama Administration strategic patience policy . Thomas it was a disaster, a disaster around the whole country. You look at north korea, you look at the middle east, everywhere, but it shows when you get rid of strategic patience, liz, and adopt a very proactive attitude of we win, they lose, what you can do, and i dont know what they did, but they really did, they being the Trump Administration, did some great work in getting young otto back. Liz now hes in an unresponsiveful wakefulness, we had doc siegel say that is basically a vegetative state. What happened in north korea, do you think . I know this is speculation. This is so disturbing what is going on with the breaking news, go ahead. Thomas well, it is speculation. I think they could have put gas into him through a mask, they could have put, injected him with certain drugs or something to try to make him say things, used him as a guinea pig for Different Things theyre doing. We dont know that. But whatever it was, it was horrific, liz, and can you see the conditions hes in, and im not im not a doctor, but i dont think hes in good shape. Liz you know, heres the thing, general, we dont want to politicize this, but there is serious ramificatio from policies, can you weigh in here on how could the Obama Administration have saved Otto Warmbier . Well, i dont think they could have because the president was an empty suit, and kim jongun was going to ignore him. Now hes got a different leader in there. Hes got a leader exerting influence across the world, and by the way, were moving into a very difficult situation with korea. They are the greatest throw the peace and stability in the world today. Liz you know, Otto Warmbiers father put out a heck of a warning, general, about Tour Companies working to get people to come into north korea to take the tours, claiming that theyre safe. Hes saying his son was set up. Lets take a listen. The North Koreans lure americans to travel to north korea via tour groups run out of china who advertise slick ads on the internet, proclaiming no american ever gets detained off of our tours, and this is a safe place to go. Young pioneers tours, they advertise its the safest trip ever, and the one your mother wouldnt want to you go on, but what they do is provide fodder for the North Koreans. This is an absolute disgrace what is going on right now, what north korea did to the warmbier family and their son. Go ahead, sir. Thomas absolutely, and im very delighted is probably the in the best word, but he is doing what should be done so americans know that they are fodder and he didnt hold back on that, and you know its very difficult when you have a 20, 22yearold kid or 25, and they see a tour like, this liz, im with doc siegel. Liz heres the thing, too. This is whats so infuriating, hes in a vegetative state. Thats north korea trying to send a message to americans and to the Trump Administration, right . Thomas yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Liz i mean, do you think there should be more steps taken because of this . Thomas well, were coming to that bridge here soon, liz, and i think were just shaping it. The icbm development and other things are shaping it. This one event will learn from it, well get experience from it, the question is, is it good experience or bad experience . And did they just let him go to humiliate us . Liz general, always good to see you, love having you on. And thank you, again for your service for our country. Thomas thank you, liz. Liz about an hour away from the start of the Congressional Baseball Charity game at nationals park. This follows the horrific shooting yesterday at the gop practice. We have congressman earlier on the show getting very emotional about it. We could see the players warming up on the field right now. It is a 100yearold tradition, one Million Dollars raised already, that is double the amount raised last year. The series currently tied at 3939. Again, tonights game sold more than 20,000 seats. Were going to have more after the break. Liz just an hour away from the start of the congressional baseball game following that horrific shooting yesterday. It will be an incredibly emotional night. Thanks for having us in your house. Charles good evening, im charles payne. Major indices closed for the day. Ill tell you when to buy this market. The president firing back on twitter after a report that Robert Mueller is investigating the president for obstruction of justice. Here is another one. You are witnessing the single greatest witch hunt in american political history led by some very bad and conflicted people
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