President , that needs to be looked into like are we really you want to sweep it under the rug. I dont want to talk about this anymore than anybody else. I want to talk about jobs and wages and pensions. I want to talk about making sure that people have, you know, dignity, but my god, you got to look into it, j. D. You cant sweep it under the rug. And liz cheney is not a democrat. Adam kinsinger is not a democrat. Liz cheneys dad was dick cheney, Vice President of the United States under george w. Bush as a republican. This is a bipartisan effort. Mr. Steyer thank you, congressman. Were going to move to the topic of gun control. Mr. Vance, as recently as 2018, you supported gun reform measures, including red flag laws aimed at taking groups from people likely to use them in Violent Crimes, such as domestic abusers. But your position has shifted and said you would not vote on what you call gun grabs. Instead, you are focused on Real Solutions. What measures or Real Solutions would you support to reduce gun violence and Mass Shootings and would they include any restrictions on gun ownership for anyone . Mr. Vance let me be clear about what we mean by red flag laws. Thats the big issue here. Look, we have multiple examples, just in the last couple years, terribly tragic situations where a convicted felon has walk in, walked in, passed a background check, gotten a firearm and killed a lot of innocent people. Thats obviously totally unacceptable. Im a big pro Second Amendment guy. I know a lot of people who vied have rarely defended the none of Second Amendment. Them think that convicted felons should be able to buy firearms and then kill a large number or small number of people. But heres the thing. Two issues. One, the reason why we have skyrocketing gun violence in this country is because tim ryan and a lot of democrats decided to declare war on americas police. Thats why from youngstown to cleveland, to columbus to cincinnati, we have really, really high rates of gun violence. We didnt have it two years ago. We didnt have it five years ago. And nothing changed in the gun haas. We need to get back to common sense Law Enforcement policies. The second thing is we cannot we need to fix the system thats broken as opposed to layering a bunch of additional regulations on top of it. The thing that i dont like is when you create a new background check system with new sets of regulations that go after lawabiding citizens. When we know the Current System is broken, why dont we fix it instead of creating a entirely creating an entirely new system. Mr. Steyer congressman ryan, you said you support the Second Amendment, but with that right comes the responsibility to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. What specific limitations on gun ownership do you support and what do you see as going too far in limiting gun ownership . Mr. Ryan yeah, here we are in ohio. One of the great days, at least once a year we try to get out and do some hunting with our oldest, mason. Hes a much better shot than i am and he would gladly admit that publicly, but its one of the great days. You go up, you watch some football on sunday, get up early, go out hunting on monday. We have to preserve that culture here in ohio. It is really important for us to do that. But you cant watch the School Shootings, you cant watch the level of violence that we have here, and not think we need background checks, right . We need to close the gun show loophole. We need to make sure these weapons of war are not readily available, like what happened in the one community where an 18yearold, just a few days after his 18th birthday, hes able to, like, stumble into a gun shop and get a semiautomatic rifle and 1600 rounds of ammunition. If we train a soldier and they go out, they get 300 rounds. This is not right, and kids are scared to go to school. Theyre climbing under their desks. We see the crime in the cities. How do all these people get these unlawful guns . J. D. Wants to ban the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and phi arms. And firearms, the agency that helps us prevent gun crimes and helps to solve gun crimes. He wants to abolish the agency. And here is another example of how extreme j. D. Is, right . He talked about the National Abortion ban, we talked about he thinks that the election was stolen, which was one of the reasons trump agreed to support him. Alex jones, a rightwing talk radio show with a huge following , said that the sandy hook murders of those young precious babies in connecticut, he said it was a hoax. And he went on and on and said it was a hoax. Ive met these families from sandy hook. Absolutely devastated. You lose a fourth grader to a madman. And this guy says it was a hoax. Our guy j. D. Says this is one of the most credible news sources in the whole country. And he just got convicted and he just got sued to the tune of billions of dollars that he owes the families for putting them through this grief. And i just want people to know, its like were running for the United States senate. This is the highest office you can get in this country except for president. And hes running around backing these extremists. The most extreme people in the country, a guy who denied sandy hook. Hes like, no, hes credible. Mr. Steyer thank you, congressman. Mr. Vance its maddening. Ive never said that, tim. He did not answer the question. He didnt give you a single example of something that would meaningfully reduce gun violence mr. Ryan is my microphone not working . Mr. De souza ohio has a law that allows teachers and other staff to carry guns on school property, after receiving only 24 hours of training. Is that the answer to the growing epidemic of Mass School Shootings in america . Mr. Vance of course not. We need many, Many Solutions to find the answer to these ridiculous School Shootings. Look, i have three kids a , 5yearold, 2yearold, and nine month old. And when i see these terrible School Shootings, my heart breaks for these kids and the families. But that means that we need to do things that actually work here. I think allowing properly trained teachers to carry firearms can be part of the solution. I think increasing funding for School Resource officers can be part of the solution. I think a very, very important part of the solution of reducing crime, both in our schools and in our streets, is making sure and it sounds crazy common sense but making sure that we lock up violent criminals. Heres the thing about tim ryan. Tim ryan, when he was running for president , of course, he was a different guy two years ago when i was running for president. He supported ending cash bail. And we know just in this , community, a guy who was let out on nominal bail, who went and got a gun and went and murdered somebody in this community because we dont have the proper policies in place to ensure the violent criminals go off for a long time. That really is the thing thats changed in this country. Its changed on our streets. Its changed everywhere else. We need to not do radical things. Tim calls me an extremist. Ending cash bail is on the far left of his own party and its the very sort of thing that makes our streets less safe. We need more cash bail for violent criminals. We need to make sure were not letting these complete scum bags out of jail because tim ryan is desperate to be president. Mr. Steyer thank you, mr. Vance. Congressman, your answer to the question . Mr. Ryan yeah, my wife is a School Teacher. Has been for 20 years. We had three kids go to public school. These School Shootings scare parents to death and thats why the alex jones thing bothered me so much. I just believe in watching the videos of some of these schools that it is a very risky proposition to have a person thats a School Teacher trained to shoot in that environment with all those kids running around. Like, that somebody who needs to be very well trained and a lot of experience, quite frankly, whether youre a Police Officer or you have some military experience, and you happen to be at that tragic situation thats happening. So i just i just think its very, very dangerous to think that youre going to have a School Teacher shooting into a crowd of kids. And i get the sentiment, for sure, because its scary. But the question is, in all of these instances, we tried to pass some reasonable gun safety legislation that rob portman supported. It was a bipartisan effort, and j. D. Vance opposed it. Like this was not an extreme bill. This didnt close the gun show loophole, it didnt into into background checks, didnt go into the charleston loophole, didnt go into any of that stuff which i support, but he was against it. Its like, if youre not john john cornyn from texas is for this rob portman for this, strong Second Amendment guys, but he was against it. We have to come together and you have to find points of agreement here. Youre not always going to get your way and im going to go to the senate and represent republicans and democrats and independents. I am going to promise to find common sense solutions. Mr. Vance can we just talk about the Mental Health side of this . Just briefly. I imagine tim ryan probably agrees with me on this. Very often behind these shootings is a clearly a person is clearly a person who was mentally unwell not getting , treatment and not being order ed into the types of facilities that would prevent them from getting crime. Rob portman, again endorsed me, has done a lot on the meat side a mental side of the equation. I think thats an important part of ensuring these School Shootings mr. Ryan just quickly im not sure why rob portman endorsed you because you dont agree with any of the compromises hes been able to make in the last year and Mental Health issues happen around the globe. This is the only country where we have these kind of things happening. Keep the guns out of criminals hands and keep Mental Health mr. Steyer thank you, topic. Next topic. Ms. Mccoy in policing, mr. Vance, youve argued in keeping qualified immunity for police in excessive force. But in light of ongoing instances, what measures would you support Holding Police accountable . Mr. Vance look, i think there are measures right now in place to hold Police Accountable and ive talked to a number of the membership of the fraternal order of police, who endorsed me, and they will tell you there are a lot of things that are in place to make sure bad cops arent able to continue to what they do and the good cops want the bad cops out of the police chief. I think we have proper protections right now to ensure that the Police Officers who arent doing their job arent able to continue on the force. Heres the important thing here. Because of what happened two years ago and because of the summer of rioting and looting that cost tens of billions of dollars of damage and, of course, 26 people, a lot of them Police Officers, lost their lives, the effort that tim ryan supported to strip the police of qualified immunity is why we have the Violent Crime on our streets right now. Talk to a Police Officer and they will tell you theyre terrified of doing their job because of what tim ryan did. Talk to the youngstown chief of police, who wrote you a letter a couple years ago and called you a traitor for what you did to the police in this community and the police all over the state. The problem that we had after 2020 is we were so worried about the rare bad cop that we completely turned the federal government loose on our Law Enforcement and the consequences is there are streets and that people do not feel safe to walk down. Not just true in youngstown, true all over the state. Ms. Mccoy and congressman ryan, you were criticized for the letter he mentioned from youngs police chief, a letter to youngstowns police chief a , letter to attorney general william barr that you signed on june 23rd of 2020, that described Police Brutality and violence as being the leading cause of death among young men, particularly young black men, three times more likely to be killed by police than their white peers. Do you believe Law Enforcement protocols need to be redefined in america . Mr. Ryan i think we need a National Discussion. This is clearly a problem. We do have Police Officers who dont like their job anymore, we have people who dont want to go into Law Enforcement, and thats a real problem. We need more cops, we need better paid cops, and we have to get rid of the bad cops. We also have to understand theres a complicated relationship between the Law Enforcement and primarily the black community, which means weve got to have a National Discussion about this because there are bad cops that do bad things. And i just think that we need to provide the kind of leadership that is needed to start the healing process, so we can take the temperature down. Now, ive brought back 500 million to ohio for Law Enforcement. Staffing, technology, even here in youngstown, right down the street, shot spotters. I got an earmark for them years ago, so they can identify gunshots in the city and immediately find where it is. Those are the kind of investments that we need to make. I also, again, put money into the rescue package to make sure that local governments and state governments have money for Law Enforcement. Governor dewine is going around the state passing out that federal money, which i agree with, but its federal money. I also have a bill, and this is what i hope is the model moving forward, i have a bill that is a police immersion training bill, that has the support of both the fop and the naacp. I want to be someone who tries to solve problems. I dont want to keep fighting for another 10 years about criminal Justice Reform or immigration or any of these polarizing issues. I want us to come together as americans and have some common sense solutions. And so i will use my position in the senate to sit down with both the naacp, the urban league, and the fop, and say how can we start working this out . How can we Start Building trust again . Not someone who wants to throw jet fuel on the issue. Mr. Vance this is a consistent theme of the debate and certainly of the entire campaign. Tim ryan says he believes in Reasonable Solutions. Tim, what were you doing on those Reasonable Solutions in your 20 years in washington, d. C. . What were you doing at the moment that the lawless people were attacking our Police Officers . You were joining in and making our streets less safe. The critical issue here is that tim ryan keeps on saying hes reasonable. He keeps saying that hes a moderate. Keeps saying that he believes in things that 90 of ohio believes, but when he gets to washington, he votes exactly the opposite way. I went to yankee kitchen for dinner about two hours ago, some so many people came up to me, some of them democrats, and they said tim ryan has been in office for 20 years and he hasnt done his damn job. Thats a direct quote from a Union Steel Worker who you represent. If you were half as good of a legislator as you pretend to be, youngstown wouldnt have lost 50,000 jobs and those steelworkers would not be coming up to me telling me you failed them. Mr. Steyer thank you. We need to move on. Mr. De souza immigration remains one of the most explosive issues confronting the nation, and an idea that is igniting the passions of some americans is called the great replacement theory. The theory says whites are in danger of being replaced by nonwhites as a majority if the flow of nonwhite immigrations isnt stopped. Mr. Vance, you have warned of an immigrant invasion, according to a wire story from last may. Who are these invaders and how are they coming into this country . Mr. Vance well, the primary way theyre coming into the country is through tim ryan and joe bidens wide open southern border to the tune of half a to the tune of about two look, not democratic voters and democratic people, but the democratic leadership, the people he answered to in washington, d. C. , theyre very explicit about that. They say they want more and more immigration because if that happens, theyll ensure that republicans are never able to win another national election. Its not whites or nonwhites. There are white immigrants and nonwhite immigrants in this country who have enriched in country in an incredible way. Im married to one, the daughter of south asian immigrants, and my wife has been unbelievably blessed and enrich because she decided to say yes i asked her to marry me, but she came in or i should say her family came in legally. They followed the laws therefore of this country and the things i worry about with all of this illegal floition is if you want to start a relationship with this country, were all common citizens, were on a great big american family. We look after each other. Whether you came one generation ago or ten generations ago, were all part of the same family. But your introduction to this country sh