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Transcripts For CNNW Piers Morgan Tonight 20111106



ohio and why police were forced to shoot to kill. plus, chickenpox, lollipops? parents, buying candy containing the virus online for their kids. why? and the super nanny, jo frost. she's hot over the judge caught on tape beating his daughter. >> this is abuse and we have to open our eyes up about it and do something about it. >> that's just the beginning of her rant. it's all right here right now on cnn. good evening, everyone, i'm don lemon. on a huge saturday for college football, shocking allegations to report of sexual child abuse against a former coach for the revered penn state nittany lions and a pair of university big wigs are accused of covering it up. you may not know his face, but if you're a college football fan, you know his name. jerry sandusky. penn state's former coordinator led away in handcuffs, back in 1977 he found a charitable organization for at risk children called second mile. he's accused of committing sexual assaults or advances on eight young men he met in the program between 1994 and 2009. in all, he faces 40 counts. sandusky's attorney says he knew the arrest was coming. >> he's been aware of these allegations now for over three years. he came back to state college voluntarily last night. the other hand, i've seen counts in cases like this where there are allegations of child abuse that involved hundreds of counts. so 40 actually in terms of perspective, in terms of the nature of the case and the allegations, it doesn't surprise me. >> sandusky is currently out on $100,000 bail. also involved in this case, penn state's athletic director timothy curley and gary schultz, the university senior vice president for finance and business. both are charged with perjury and failing to report an investigation into the allegations. pennsylvania's attorney general linda kelly made this statement. "this is a case about a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys and also a case about high ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention and later made false statements to a grand jury that was investigating a series of assaults on young boys." and penn state's president graham spaniar released a statement reading in part "the allegations about a former coach are troubling. it's appropriate they be investigated thoroughly. protecting children requires the utmost vigilance. tim curley and gary schultz operate at the highest levels of honesty, integrity and compassion. i am confident this record will show these charges are groundless and that they conducted themselves professionally and appropriately." penn state's head football coach joe paterno is not facing any charges. the attorney general says paterno did ask tim curley about one of the incidents involving sandusky in 2002. the hacking group anonymous now says it will not name members of mexico's notorious drug cartel known as the zetas. hackers threatened to release the cartel members' names in retaliation for one of its members being kid napped. on friday, the group said the kidnapping victim had been released, bruisd but alive. cnn can't confirm if there was a kidnapping victim or if the person had been freed. unanimous members who wear masks are better known for hacking into government and banking computers and identifies itself with the occupy movement. now, we go to the trial of michael jackson's doctor in los angeles. jurors are taking the weekend off as they deliberate the fate of dr. conrad murray who's accused of involuntary manslaughter in jackson's death. in the center of the case is propofol. jean casarez recently spoke with jackson's former dermatologist. what he had to say was shocking. jean joins us from phone by los angeles. jean, you've been covering this trial from the very beginning. what did dr. arnold klein tell you? >> i went over to dr. klein's house this afternoon. i spoke to him several hours ago. he definitely admits to the demerol injections. he was in the midst of rebuilding michael jackson's face, that michael wanted to be the best he could be. he was a perfectionist. he knew this tour was coming up. step by step he was rebuilding it. it took time and it was very, very painful. he says the evidence that was brought before the court and before the jury of all the records of all the demerol shots were not his in entirety because he was out of the country the entire month of may. there were some records that three days in a row he would get upwards of 900 milligrams in 3 days. >> that's not true. it was not 900 milligrams in 3 days. not that i gave him. >> i'm not saying you. i'm saying the records. >> one day in may, i gave him medicine. the rest of the times in may he got medicine from different doctors. >> so he's saying that during the month of may when at one point three days in a row he got 300 milligrams which would be 900 milligrams of demerol. dr. klein said he was in paris, that the other doctors that were independent but they worked inside his office must have given michael that demerol then when he got back in the office in june, you saw it go back down to 100 milligrams. don, what he's saying is he believes the defense is trying to target him because those were not all of this injections. he believes that he's been a target of this entire trial. and why? he says, don, because he's different. and he says when people are different, they become targets. he aligns himself with galileo and also michael jackson, himself, saying look a the child molestation trial. jackson was targeted just because he's a little different. don, i've reached out to ed chernoff, lead counsel for the defense to get their take on all of this and have not heard back from them yet. >> jean, michael jackson was addicted to demerol and other drugs and also that he administered the fatal dose of propofol, itself. that was at the crux of the defense's case. what is this interview? it's interesting he says this to you. do you think this will have an effect on the defense? >> the point is probably not who administered the propofol. the defense was trying to make the point the demerol was given to michael jackson which produced side effects which although were not the cause of death built up in his system. dr. klein believes the prior trial tried to make him a target, a scapegoat. so dr. conrad murray will not take the brunt is what to due to him. he thinks it so horrendous he was given propofol in a bedroom such as that. he told me that three different times he tried to intervene because he said michael jackson was totally addicted to propofol. he said he chartered a jet to las vegas when he knew michael jackson was having propofol. he went to the mirage hotel, kicked the doctor out who was in the midst of administering propofol to michael jackson. he said he flew to hawaii and slept on the floor of the hotel room with his own nurse because he didn't want michael to have propofol and kicked the plastic surgeon out that was giving him propofol and another time in new york. it was fascinating to listen to him, to get to know him a little bit. he's a very down to earth doctor. and very kind person. >> and i should note, this is all your interview. this has not been presented into evidence during the trial. they rested now and the deliberations are going on. it should not affect the jury. the jury is not supposed to be watching the news coverage. jean casarez, great interview. thank you for joining us tonight. let's go to occupy wall street and those in the occupy wall street movement will tell you it is no true leaders. former new york mayor rudy giuliani says he knows who's responsible. president barack obama. that's what he says. giuliani says the president is inspiring the movement by fostering class warfare and described the economic policy as redistribute the wealth which he sees as a key message of the occupy movement. coming up later on on cnn, cnn goes in-depth and follows the occupy movement. we'll hear from reporter who spent 24 hours in its birthplace, new york's zuccotti park. imagine coming face to face with lions and tigers. >> a male called in that advised approximately 25 minutes ago, about a hundred yards from 70 headed toward south -- he saw a large black bear. >> coming face to face with lions and tigers is exactly what happened when the 50 exotic animals got loose in ohio. we have brand new video and new details from authorities about what exactly happened when they had to shoot to kill. the star of the hit show "super nanny" is heated tonight all over this texas judge who was caught on tape beating his daughter with a leather belt. >> we're in the 21st century, don, this is not the 16th. we're aware of what the damages are, how it breaks down relationships. have you seen this crazy video? 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the footage that triggered it shows a texas family court judge beating his 16-year-old daughter with a leather strap. a warning, the clip is graphic and it's disturbing. >> bend over the bed. bend over the bed. >> stop. stop. stop. >> parenting experts are in an uproar. among them, the former star of the "super nanny" jo frost has dedicated her life to helping to raise other people's kids. and she says the judge's methods in the video constitute child abuse. >> let's not justify this behavior. there are alternatives of discipline in a child that allows you to have a healthy relationship with your children. trust for you to be able to build your family dynamic in a way that's healthy and functional. this is not functional. this is people calling in, going on twitter and justifying what we know as abuse. we're living in the 21st century, don, this is not the 16th century. >> is there any instance, any instance where corporal punishment is acceptable? >> i don't think so at all. i have clearly shown certainly in america for the last eight years, where families who have been raised to think that corporal punishment is fine have asked me to come into their homes and recognized parents have a choice in chooing alternative discipline that allows them to grow with their family and to bond. it's not acceptable by any means at all. >> okay. people know you as the problem solver who has entered the homes of hundreds of families and turned things around. possibly thousands of families. if you were in this home, what would you have done? >> i think the most important thing to do here is to understand that families need to be very clear in their communications with rules and expectations and understand when we're dealing with 16-year-olds, it's about meeting those expectations and understanding we can take away their privileges when they've broken those rules. >> when you see the full seven minutes of the video, the father is definitely very stern, scary to a lot of people. he is cursing and putting his teenage daughter down as he puts her down. i want to you take a look at the clip and how he views what he did seven years ago when the footage was shot. >> in my mind i haven't done anything wrong at other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing. i did lose my temper. i since apologized. >> he doesn't have remorse. he has apologized. how do children, especially teens, respond to this type of parenting? this severe scolding and a parent who downplays it? >> don, he didn't apologize. he didn't apologize. he justified what he did. that's what he did. he knows, he knows now that there are certainly other ways in how he could have done things better. that's the point here, that america needs to recognize that. as a spokesperson of the american association prevention of cruelty to children, when we know addiction, violent, aggression, bullying, comes from families who do not break this mold, this is what we're going to see. it's not just about laying down rules and expectations, but about how you nurture your relationship and build trust with your children and validating their opinions. >> jo frost is a spokesperson for the american society for the prevention of cruelty to children. which reports last year more than 1,700 kids died from abuse. just friday, police in indiana arrested this father on murder charges. investigators say terry sturgess bound his 10-year-old son with duct tape and beat him to death. a florida woman says she's grateful to be alive after a helicopter crashed into her house. the chopper went down today in west palm beach, florida, hitting the woman's roof and car. a second home was also damaged. amazingly the pilot and the passenger only suffered minor injuries. an investigation is now under way. herman cain wraps up a week he'd probably like to forget. >> i don't know who's in charge of his rapid response team. it might be the same people who ran charlie sheen's management seminar. it might be lindsay lohan's people. >> more from my conversation with political satirist bill durst, next. like crest pro-health multi-protection. it helps you get a better dental check-up. so be ready for your next dental check-up. try any crest pro-health rinse. fantastic! 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