Transcripts For CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John B

Transcripts For CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman 20190812

You have to consider a change at the top. Anthony scaramucci who served for 11 days as Communications Director for the white house and defended the president relentlessly on tv since then tells us that the president is giving people a license to hate and that Anthony Scaramucci lo nonger backs the president for reelection. He calls him out and says he will no longer support. Here are highlights. Last time i was in this chair with you, john, we were talking about the racially charged rhetoric that led to a whole twitter nonsense from the president. Obviously he then left to go to the two shooting areas. So now he comes back from the two shooting areas, that was a total catastrophe. The only thing he was doing in those areas is talking about himself and praising himself and crowd sizes. Just one day after the next, it gets worse and worse and worse. In the meantime, as you know, in a chair like this or inside your studio or elsewhere, i got fired two years ago and have tried to stay very loyal to him and very loyal to the agenda because i think the policies are very, very good for the American People, but the receipt li rhetoric is so charged and so divisive, we have to take a step back and say what are we doing. One thing i find reprehensible and the president continues to do this, and i think what will end up happening is, sound and reasonably minded men and women in the Republican Party will say, wait, we cant do this. He is giving people a license to hate, to provide a source of anger to go after each other, and he does it on his twitter account. So lets just stop for a second and think about this. We ignore it but he goes after people personally. Going after me personally, no problem, im a big boy. I can take it. Donny deutsch can take it. But he goes after individuals as the president of the United States on his twitter account, okay, which incites hate, which incites death threats. I mean, as some point i think the people in my party will have to look at all this stuff and stop being anesthetized to it and say what are we doing. The policies are great. The trade war thing is likely going to end up in an unexpected outcome. We can talk about that if you want. Lastly, how are we all tolerating this. To me, im just saying last week, arguably one of the worst weeks in his presidency again, im not talking about things that happen legislatively but the way hes acting as a human being. To me, a couple more weeks like this, i really do believe there will be a ground swell in the party where people say, hey, the policies are great, but youre set k us up the way jimmy carter set up the Democratic Party where they went into the wilderness for 40 years. Those are my opinions. Im very proud to state them. Listen, if you saw the chernobyl series, it did not end well. Were in the first two episodes now, lets see how this thing unfolds. Are you calling for a change at the top of the republican ticket . Im calling for it to be considered. I think you have to consider a change at the top of the ticket when someone is acting like this, someone is that lax, intellectual curiosity to take ideas from friends. To give an example, last week on this show you asked me specifically, do you still support the president. I did. I go on bill maher, do i still support the president , yes, i do. However, the racially charged comments, divisive tweeting, nonsense coming from the president is not helping the country. So if youre in a place in your mind where loyal people to you again, i was fired two years ago, pointed on the twitter, got that right, blah, blah, i to appreciate the president getting the 11 days right, so thank you, mr. President. Hes out there doing things and you cant give advice. If you Say Something one or two sentences off the mark of his support, i would tell his loyalists, loyalty is not blind obedience unless youre supporting a demagogue, so you dont want to ever be like that in your life. Anthony, last week when i asked if you supported and the answer is yes. This morning when i asked if youre calling for a change at the top of the ticket, you said it should be considered. Are you no longer this morning im a republican, so im not switching parties to support a democrat. I believe in the values and the policies of the Republican Party, but im now neutral on the president. Youre neutral on the president. Well see how he continues to act. Absolutely. You have to get into a neutral position. Anthony, i just dont want to pass this by. You are no longer an active supporter of President Trump and his reelection bid . Yeah. I think thats pretty obvious from over the weekend. Including using words like evil and talking about dangerous, it sounds like you are saying, anthony, that the president of the United States is a threat to the security of the United States. Is that what youre saying . Lets watch how this unfolds. I think that is starting to happen, john. As i said last night, if he continues like this over the next three or four weeks, it is a responsibility of people in the Republican Party, okay, to say, hey, man, we may need to put a relief pitcher in here. You pitched six strong innings but youre throwing it up against the backstop now. I really believe that. So there it is. Joining us now kaitlan collins, cnn white house coordinator, bin, a gold riga, chief legal analyst and producer of all kinds of hit television shows. Anthony scaramucci did work in the white house, he has been a supporter of the president for a long time. So there are a lot of people looking at this saying Anthony Scaramucci, 11 days in the white house, who cares, but its significant when a longtime supporter of the president goes on tv and says im done. An ally. President so long defending him on television since he left the white house two years ago. Pretty realistically hell call the president out on things but this is as far as hes gone. He said since hes been in this public feud with the president tweeting at him, he said hes gotten calls not only from trump allies and lawmakers on the hill but people who currently work inside the white house who agree with him that the president has gone a step too far in some of his recent comment. That being said, do any lawmakers come out publicly and agree with scaramucci, he said in the next three weeks he thinks were going to see a shift in that, i dont think so. Republicans havent broken with the president yet on anything hes done but well see. Hes defending the president up to friday night in the bill maher interview. I happened to watch that. He does walk a fine line. He says theres policies i support, when the president does something i dont support, ill call him out on it. Go to line was i stand by my friends, im close to him, i dont just drop people. What happened in 24 hours, people may be a bit more skeptical about this change in view of the president may question that. Weve gotten to know this president over 2 1 2 years. The rhetoric is not president ial, a lot of is is inciting what were seeing throughout the country and using words such as go back to the country you came from, shole countries, where was Anthony Scaramucci when this was happening. To say nothing of when he was claiming barack obama was born in kenya. The idea donald trump is new or his behavior is new is not realistic to me. However, i just would offer one word of caution that always seems appropriate. We always talk about turning points in Donald Trumps popularity, presidency and the polls never change of the polls never change. Hes there somewhere between 42, 38, 42, 45 popularity, which doesnt change whether its charlottesville, twoyear anniversary now, or Helsinki Press Conference or the failure of health care, nothing seems to change. Hes not very popular but its not that his popularity goes down. Its easy for people off the record to tell Anthony Scaramucci i agree with you, even those in the president s inner circle. I think things change when they become public. We havent seen that yet. He seems to think someone is going to come forward and Say Something. I have to say, im with you, its suspect. I dont see it happening at this point. Let me read you what he says. He said this in the interview but after the interview he went on twitter to emphasize again to those asking what took so long, youre right. I try to see best in donald trump based on personal interactions and policy line but his increasing rhetoric and damage its doing to the fabric of our society outweighs any shortterm economic gain. He basically said to me, kaitlyn, its just too much and called last week the worst week of the president. He cited the way he acted at the scenes of two Mass Shootings where the president was talking about crowd sizes or photo of smiling with the orphan. For people inside the white house who do still support the president and dont speak critically of him privately will be why is this happening now. Is this really what you thought was the worst . Actually the more things like that happen we saw last week, we talked to people in the white house who said they did not think that trip went well. They tried to plan it, didnt think it went great. Of course, its a more muted reaction from two years whaeng Something Like this happened. People in the white house, my god, what happened, people are texting about it. Now they shrug their shoulders. We weathered so many storms, whats this one going to make a difference. You have to wonder how much influence, how much sway does Athony Scaramucci have . He has no electoral votes. Hes not running. We learned that when you asked him. I do mean that realistically. How much sway does Anthony Scaramucci have . Even though people may agree with him in private, in terms of trying to get somebody to come out and Say Something beside him to support him. Lets see a republican elected official who has to face the voters in potentially a republican primary. When someone like that comes out against donald trump, then that will be Anthony Scaramucci has no electoral votes. He got no votes at all except his own. I think you make a very good point that, you know, hes interesting, hes a media figure. He is not someone who is answerable to a republican electora electorate. Again, i go back to friday night where he was Still Standing by the president. The picture from the hospital had already been put out. His trip had been criticized and some of the details coming out of his trip and commentary had been out there. Why Anthony Scaramucci had the change of heart. Many skeptics say did it happen to happen after the president tweeted at him. Im not saying it is but timing is suspect. Timing is there for us to see. Jeffrey epstein found hapgd in his jail cell. Jeffrey toobin, it is a betrayal of Jeffrey Epstein over the years, how can this happen . Scaramucci didnt address it directly but addressed the tone we hear from the United States. How can the president pedal conspiracy theories over the death. Several things. First, obviously, we have to look for facts. The only good thing you can say about a suicide in a place like the mcc is there are a lot of witnesses, theres closed circuit tv, people who had interaction with him. This is a fruitful place for investigation. I think between the fbi and inspector general, new york medical examiner who is doing the autopsy, we will know more facts. This is so ripe for speculation which leads to the president s unbelievably irresponsible and truly libelous tweet about the clintons. We struggle in the news media trying to be responsible. Do we even report what the president says because its something the president says, or do we apply journalistic standards and say these sorts of accusations are so beyond the pale that we shouldnt even talk about them. I dont know the answer to that dilemma. Also, this is a place where the president feels really comfortable. He questioned where obama was born. He claimed Obama Wiretapped trump tower. He asserted that ted cruzs father killed jfk. This is a president who is not a stranger to these conspiracy theories, floating them far enough where he can say he doesnt have responsibility for it, as with this. Hes just retweeting someone else suggesting the clintons are responsible for this. Of course, theres no basis for that. This is where the president feels comfortable. Whats interesting is his aides goal out and defend this and say he wants things to be investigated when hes putting false information out there. His supporters take things seriously. Thats where the problem is, the president using his platform to retweet a conspiracy, but its something weve seen from him time and time again. Its not surprising at all. Its also telling when the best outcome can be incompetence. When you have so many prosecutor theories out there circulated, retweeted by the president himself, its easy for me to say its so russian where people fall out of windows before their court date or have heart attacks left, right, and center. When people cant trust their own government, people have to speculate were there alternative possibilities as to why somebody died the way they did, i think that brings out a very dangerous side to this country because whether you like it or not, for the most part americans should have faith in the Justice System and it should be the president as the commander in chief who is encouraging that as opposed to retweeting conspiracy theories that are complete nonsense. We should know its a contradiction to his own administration has said. Attorney general bill barr puts out a statement saying he wants it investigated and the president is tweeting this going in line saying they want this to be investigated, it goes against what even his own Justice Department of is saying about this. Again, the president chose to do it. He could have been talking about efforts to battle gun violence, background checks. Thats the part that bugs me the most. 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