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i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm christi paul. >> this morning the optimism is slamming right into the reality of the race for a vaccine. researchers around the world are rushing to develop a coronavirus vaccine and president trump is formally unveiled his administration's operation warp speed. >> it's objective is to finish develop and then manufacture and distribute a proven coronavirus vaccine as fast as possible. again, we would love to see if we can do it prior to the end of the year. we think we'll have some very good results coming out very quickly. >> you hear the president doubling down on his goal for a vaccine by the end of the year. an aggressive timeline. most health experts say it's unrealistic, potentially dangerous at worse. why scientists believe over promising could be detrimental. states are pushing ahead on plans to re-open. the director of cdc forecasting more than 100,000 deaths by the end of this month. that's just two weeks away. >> chris tkristen holmes is at white house. the president outlined the strategy. introduced the leadership and said the country is back with or without a vaccine. >> reporter: good morning. that's right. he doubled down on this idea that a vaccine wasn't necessary and said it in multiple different ways in that press conference that the virus would go away without a vaccine. this is something that many scientists including his own task force members have pushed back on in the past saying that really a vaccine is the key to returning to normalcy. that's not the only part of this initiative that had health experts and scientists concerned. the other part was that timeline. as you said, this is a very ambitious timeline. he said he would like to have hundreds of millions of doses of a vaccine available to the public by the end of the year. scientists, many of them do not think that that is possible, particularly when it comes to coronavirus. they say we're still learning so much about this virus, how it impacts the body,er and you don't want to cut-out those critical testing phases. but here's what president trump said on how exactly it would speed up the process. >> typically pharmaceutical companies wait to manufacture a vaccine until it has received all of the regulatory approvals necessary and this can delay vaccines availability to the public as much as a year and even more than that. however our task is sour accident that under operation warp speed, the federal government will invest in manufacturing all of the top vaccine candidates before they are approved. >> reporter: so two things i want to point out and this is from multiple conversations with different health officials and scientists. one they say the manufacturing is not the biggest part of this. it's the science and testing, making sure it would work. the other thing i want to point to, dr. fauci's testimony in front of the u.s. senate earlier this week, he said a timeline of 12 to 18 months was possible, but that there was no guarantee that the vaccine would work. this raises a lot of red flags to doctors in the medical community. we know right now in the u.s. there is a whole anti-vaccination movement. people don't trust vaccines. there's a huge concern if they release a vaccine that doesn't work that this will quash people's faith in vaccines moving forward and really harm that process. >> all right, kristen holmes, always good to have you with us. so let's talk about these states that are re-opening. millions of new yorkers are still under that shelter-in-place order. our governor andrew cuomo announced five regions in the state would allow to begin phased re-opening. >> let's go to one of them. binghampton there p polo sandoval is there. some optimism. plans to be develop. what are you hearing what's next for that part of the state? >> reporter: quite a bit of opt jim. this community has been you a loud this gradual re-opening. it accounts for a small percentage of the total population of the new york state. new york city has been considered ground zero for this pandemic. at this point people there are still going to have to adhere to this stay-at-home order according to the governor. he made it clear it's not until those other regions are able to meet certain requirements they can begin that re-opening. new york governor andrew cuomo extending the state's stay-at-home order through may 28th, maintaining restrictions for the more populated regions including new york city which have not hit all seven of the benchmarks set by the state to begin the re-opening process. >> if a region hits its benchmark at any time, regardless of the pause order, then that region can open. we're opening phase one in those five regions today. >> reporter: that's allowing curb side retail, manufacturing and construction work to resume in some more sparsely populated regions of the state. in upstate new york this building contractor already busy fielding job calls. >> the most i'll have on the job is four. that's a lot different we used to have seven or eight guys. things might take longer but we'll be safe moving forward. >> reporter: new york's beaches will re-open in time for memorial day weekend with limited capacity and with the exception of new york city beaches. neighboring states new jersey, delaware and connecticut also planning on opening up their shores by sunday. 48 u.s. states will have partially re-opened despite a recent upthe tick in covid-19 deaths across the state, texas is on track to re-open exercise facilities and expand capacities at movie theaters and restaurants an excuse as monday. in florida starting monday restaurants will be allowed to serve at 50% capacity and gyms also slated to re-open. >> if you're inside make sure you're doing the social distance and then sanitize machines and surfaces after use. >> reporter: centers for disease control unveiled flow charts to help businesses and communities to decide whether they can re-open. the cdc also issuing a new health alert about a covid related inflammatory illness in children exposed to the virus. there's a call out to doctors asking that they report suspected cases. federal health officials say they hope to better understand the rare but potentially deadly condition. >> we're all putting our heads in cases together to get an answer what's driving this, the best treatments and then once we have those answers have a better position to make data-driven recommendations. >> reporter: now if and when places like new york city do move forward with this gradual re-opening it does come with great responsibility. you see those local governments will have to constantly northern the number of covid-19 cases. they will also have to make sure and enforce business compliance. any uptick in those numbers could mean repausing thing. monitoring is what we're seeing in communities like this in upstate new york. >> thanks so much. so next hour we're speaking with the general manager of a resort in fort myers, florida. >> we'll find out what guests can expect during a vacation in the midst of a pandemic. is it worth it? we'll talk about that later this morning. the push to re-open at full speed is fueled by this if you round of tough economic headlines this week, and despite an effort by house democrats for money relief, americans just are not likely to get another check any time soon. >> first let's talk about the economy this week. a lot of new information giving us a picture of how we got to this point and we can move forward to the passage of this bill. >> reporter: that's right. gut punch and disaster. those were the words that flooded my email box to capture what's happening in the economy right now. even more upsetting than those top line ways to describe this is the way that it's playing out in the real world. how this is impacting people. another 3 million americans filed for initial unemployment benefits. that brings the total to 26.5 million americans who have sought that benefit over the last six weeks. that's just a stunning number. and the way that it's hitting lower income households also seems to be getting a lot of attention rightfully so. fed chair jerome powell saying that 40% of households making less than $40,000 have lost jobs. that is going to exacerbate the income in equality problem we already have in this country. so given all of that it's no surprise that retail sales had their worst reading ever since the government started tracking that data, down 16.4%. consumers are not in the mood to buy anything but essentials at this point. now, we did hear the president's advisers trying to pivot the conversation to the future saying hey maybe we reached peak pain. maybe things will only get better from here. we still have the stimulus working its way through the system. those are the talking points from the administration which stand in stark contrast to what jerome powell, the federal reserve chairman said this week which was the longer people stay unemployed the harder it is to get them back in the workforce because they lose skills, they lose the connection to the job market and this could be a much longer recovery than initially anticipated, victor. >> that old adage it's easier to get a job if you have a job. i want to talk to you about what happened last night. the house approved this new $3 trillion relief bill. there was opposition from republicans and opposition from democrats on this. we know that some of the senate republicans say this is a liberal wish list that's how they characterize it. what is the chances of it will go for a vote in the senate. >> reporter: the chances are very slim. here's what the democrats did. they basically laid out a way that they would address this crisis and it was critical for them politically to do this and what's in the bill is very interesting and an additional possibly $6,000 direct payment to americans, up to 6,000. trillion dollars for state and local funding. these are huge numbers. but the democrats want to make it clear that they want to hit this crisis and try and stem the tide of the disaster for average americans. what this does, it does make it harder for republicans just to say no more spending whatsoever. it's going to put pressure on them to do something. and it's going to be helped by fact that the federal reserve chairman jerome powell is basically turning to congress saying hey you guys have to step it up, there's still more to be done. so we're going see another bill is the consensus. just not this one. thank you so much. so there's an american institution i'm sure you know, j.c. penney filed for bankruptcy protection. 118-year-old retail giant becomes the latest victim in the coronavirus pandemic. >> neiman marcus and j. crew filed for bankruptcy protection last week. penney's has been struggling for the last two decades. as of last february, about $3.6 billion in long term debt. still to come friday night surprise from the white house. president trump fires the state department watchdog, the inspector general. also ahead the nfl wants more minorities in position of power. what the league is ready to offer teams. >> later, have you tried this? 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>> you know, there have been talks about we could have a vaccine in 12 to 18 months but a lot of other researchers are saying wait a minute, vaccine development typically takes more time. just as an example we typically talk about vaccine development in years not in months. and if you look at some of the most widely juiced vaccines today like the measles vaccine research was done in the 1950s but not licensed until the 1960s. then if you look at polio tests was done in the 1930s but tests were not seen successful until 1950s. whooping cough has a similar timeline. that's some examples of vaccines that had years and years of research behind them. i'm not saying those are similar to covid-19 but just an example of how vaccine development typically takes a lot of time. now what's hopeful with the covid vaccine is that even though this is a new virus that we have not really seen before, we do have some research already on other coronaviruses like sars and mers. so that can really help in forming the development that we're seeing today. >> the timeline is especially optimistic considering, i think, four years is one of the quickest periods. let me ask you about why this takes so long. walk us through some of the stages and why this cannot typically happen in just a few months. >> that's right. now it does take a lot of stages like you said but if we're just talking about critical development, that comes in three phases that involve critical trials that most of us are familiar with. phase one is typically critical trial done on a smaller group to look at safety. phase two takes you to a larger group and that looks at safety and how effective the vaccine is. and then phase three you go to an even larger group and that really determines safety and efficacy. those are the phases and stages we see. outside of that you also have to license the vaccine. you have to have manufacturing. so, you know, there's more to it than meets the eye and that's why it will be really interesting to see what timeline we are able to achieve with a covid-19 vaccine. >> of course, the strategy around administering it who will get it first. jacqueline howard for us. thank you so much. this week the centers for disease control issued this warning to thousands of doctors to look out for troubling new symptoms in children that may be associated with coronavirus infections. pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome. dr. sanjay gupta fills us in. >> my stomach start to hurt pretty bad and it got like my legs were kind of weak and i was pretty tired. >> had blue lips and her extremities were cold. that's when it was like this is not a normal flu. >> reporter: sean is juliet's dad. did you think this was a covid or coronavirus? >> my wife thought it was a possibility. she called to try to see if she could get tested. she didn't meet criteria. >> reporter: by that evening juliet was nearly dead. >> i had to leave the room to intubate her. she went into cardiac arrest for less than two minutes. >> reporter: what was her condition when you first saw juli juliet? >> she was as close to death as you could get. her heart was barely squeezing. she was going into kidney failure. liver failure. intubated emergency. >> reporter: it's hard to believe we're talking about this same beautiful little girl but hard to believe all of this was possibly related to covid-19. a disease that wasn't really supposed to severely affect kids. now it even has a name. it's called pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome in children. >> there's a lot of cells in the body that is just going crazy and what that's doing is it's creating a lot of inflammation, affecting the heart, the liver, the kidney, and really all the cells of the body. >> reporter: it's been described as a kawasaki-like disease another inflammatory disease most commonly diagnosed in children. rashes. a strawberry appearing tongue and destructive inflammation. but this is also different. there are so many questions, like why now? why months into this pandemic are we first seeing this and why is it so devastating to children in the united states and europe but not so much in asia where some of the first children were infected? >> we have interesting information coming in from japan as well as korea and taiwan that no one there that we have been in contact with has seen the severe form of car die cardiov collapse in children. no one can tell you for sure that the covid ii virus is a trigger for kawasaki disease. but there certainly is circumstantial evidence. >> we're seeing kids that don't have an active covid infection. some of them do but a lot of them are testing positive for antibodies. >> reporter: a study published on wednesday found that number of children diagnosed with the kawasaki-like disease in italy jumped 30 fold after the pandemic overtook the region. still, in the united states as frightening as it is, for now, it still appears rare. juliet was discharged after ten days in the hospital. >> how are you feeling now? you look great. >> i'm feeling good. and, you know, doesn't seem to be any long term effects. >> are you back 100%? >> maybe 99%. >> we'll take 99%. >> reporter: i want to emphasize again that what you just saw there i know was frightening but also rare. thankfully rare. even when it comes to kawasaki-like illness the inflammatory disease i mentioned in the piece some 20,000 children in the united states every year may be diagnosed with this. we're talking about 200 children with this new illness. so thankfully, again, rare. the message is for nurses and doctors but also parents, stay vigilant. if your child has abdominal pain, unusual or persistent that can be a sign. even after a child recovers from covid this post-inflammatory state may be a concern. stay vigilant. if you took your child to the emergency room last year for something take them this year as well. on the other hand if you wouldn't have taken your child to the emergency room for something last year you probably don't need to this year as well. use your judgment and use your logic and consider telehealth, telemedicine. that's one way to get an valuation at home without going to the hospital. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much for the guidance. we're a few months into this pandemic. and there's still some significant disagreement about the specifics of how this all started. next we'll get some answers to the questions, becoming a political one about how this started and it's outpacing the science. . can it help keep me asleep? 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mistake and they didn't want to admit it. >> reporter: the trump administration has been stepping up the blame of the chinese regime, leaning hard on the theory that the virus known as sars covid ii may not have come from a wuhan wet market which china claims but leaked accidentally from a government affiliated lab. >> i have said before i have seen evidence this likely came from wuhan institute of virology. >> reporter: secretary of state mike pompeo points to the security risks at the wuhan lab. according to cables reported by "the washington post" the state department warned in 2018 about safety and management issues. the body of evidence is circumstantial. u.s. intelligence agencies say there's no smoking gun. but what they do believe is that the virus was not manmade and was not released purposely. the trump administration isn't ruling out that the virus came from elsewhere but it has been much more aggressive than other countries in pushing the lab theory which for he rent intelligence partners dispute. >> there's nothing that we have, that we indicate that was the likely source. you can't rule anything out in these environments. >> reporter: that lack of certainty has allowed the trump administration to use the lab theory to be more critical of the chinese government. >> it makes a more compelling occasion for chinese governments fighting malfeasance and cover-ups and foifti ifoisting the globe. >> reporter: without more evidence the world health organization which has been blasted by the trump administration says the lab theory is speculative. >> the markets must have played a role somehow, either the source of the outbreak or a city where the virus was introduced. >> reporter: the virus could have been carried to the market or lab which is eight miles apart. at some point last year the virus moved in nature from an animal to humans. dr. anthony fauci told "national geographic" everything about the step wise evolution over time strongly indicates this virus evolved in nature and then jumped species. that doesn't discount the lab theory. the trump administration and republican allies in congress are talking about the delay of china's delay and stockpiling of protective equipment bolster the theory that it escaped the government lab since they would have known sooner. still if it leaked from the lab and the government knew, former cia china analyst chris johnson says u.s. intelligence would likely have picked up on it. >> the administration is trying to make the case very hard. they would leak fit they have it. it hasn't been leaked. >> reporter: one big thing the trump administration can point to when making the case that the virus escaped the lab in wuhan through workers it's happened before multiple time not from wuhan specifically but in 2004, two lab workers in beijing, also in china were infected with sars. and the year before in singapore a student was also infected with sars through accidental contamination. but for now outside of the u.s. most everybody is saying that it is highly unlikely that this virus came from the lab in wuhan. china for its part has called the idea absurd and said that secretary of state mike pompeo is insane for pushing it. thank you. so for the first time since march, sports fans you will finally be able to watch some new live events. question, why does a top nascar driver say his wife is not happy about that. we'll find out when we come back. 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teams have black general managers. that's despite to your point, victor the implentation of the rooney rule 17 years ago and that requires teams to interview one minority candidate. according to multiple reports the resolution will be presented to owners on tuesday during a virtual meeting and if approved a team would improve its third round draft selection by six spots if they hire a minority head coach, teams who hire minority general manager would move up ten slots in the third round. the selections would be made ahead of the second season after those positions are filled. and, again, back in february commissioner roger goodell said that the league needed to consider changes and determine better outcomes. just three of the past 20 openings for head coaching positions have gone to a minority. now, in a memo obtained by cnn the nfl is telling teams they can start re-opening facilities on tuesday in accordance with state and local regulations. no coaches or players unless they were already in injury rehabilitation program before facilities were closed back in march. the league is allowing no more than 50% of staff and a maximum of 75 people at any one time in the facilities. teams, they also have to have an infectious response team as well as an officer that would enforce cdc recommendations. >> for the first time in over two months i'm happy to say this is a bundesliga will become the first top flight soccer league in europe to start playing again, it will return without fans. tonight ufc is holding its third even in jacksonville over the course of the past eight days and tomorrow a golf match featuring rory mcilroy and dustin johnson facing off against matthew wolff and rickie fowler. finally start your engines, nascar making its return to darlington tomorrow with brad kes lou ski having the pole position for the race. i talked with him this weekend and he said he was excited about getting back into racing but i was wondering how is his family feeling about him going out there despite the pandemic, going back to work. he said his wife is actually sad she will not be there. >> she usually comes to all the races with me and, you know, she's been my biggest cheerleader. of course, she can't come with the rules, it's minimal personnel and so forth, so she's bummed about not being able to come, especially because that means she has to stay home with two real little kids. i think she needs a little bit of a mommy break, if you know what i mean. no, she's obviously excited for me to get back racing as well, i think. there is a lot of, you know, emotional stability that comes from returning back to normalcy and going back to the racetrack is our normal. >> victor and christi, that last sentiment right there that the drivers and their families might be feeling is what many sports fans, right, across the country and around the world are feeling, having sports back does bring that sense of normalcy that we are so eagerly seeking in all walks of life. >> you know, we're seeing that there are some changes to the sports that people are actually enjoying. i don't know if nascar will benefit from not having an audience, but the ufc fight, what was it a week ago, two weeks ago, there are a lot of people who said that was great, they enjoyed it more without the audience. we will see how this goes after as things get back to normal there. coy, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thank you, coy. listen, it has become one of the most popular apps of this pandemic. tik tok of course we're talking about it, millions of family and friends going viral. we're checking out some of the best dance routines, wait until you see one of these and why everybody wants to join in. as homes become schools. at&t has created a $10 million dollar fund to help educators and families keep school in session. because the key to keeping kids learning, is keeping kids connected. pedram javaheri. toluse olorunnipa. shimon prokupecz. cnn political analyst. wajahat ali. 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kids get all excited about, but now with everybody locked in the house again all ages are getting into this. here is cnn's max foster with a look. >> reporter: when a guy drops off shopping for his grandmother during lockdown he asks her to do a tik tok dance with him. ♪ the same dance is being done many times before but the secret to tik tokking is taking it your own, and if the lockdown had an anthem on the platform, this is it. ♪ bored in the house and i'm in the house bored ♪ >> the platform's biggest star, charlie damilio garnering 8 million likes with her take on the sound. her profile reveals she has an astonishing 55 million followers. getting on for 4 billion likes on her videos. dwarfing any of the celebrities that join the platform after her. like her, an australian found stardom lip synching in his bedroom. his mother getting in on the act in this video which is being viewed nearly 5 million times. >> i think everyone was kind of doing it for fun and now it's kind of like a way to escape and now i think everyone is doing it, everyone, grandma, just because they're bored sitting at home so i think they might as well do something creative. >> and the power of the platform lies in the fact that anyone can go viral if they hit the right vibe. british psychologist julie smith has gained hundreds of thousands of followers with educational videos like this. >> your brain can read a word faster than it can label a color. it's a lovely light-hearted platform and that's partly what drew me to it in the first place is things that just give you that little lift that just bring you a moment's joy or make you laugh for a moment. those little -- those little moments aren't to be dismissed because that can help you to get through a day. >> girl, don't do it. it's not worth it. >> even journalists are finding the joy on tik tok, trying to make sense of lockdown like everyone else. max foster, cnn, in social media's wild west. >> you know what else is proven, vict victor? >> yeah. >> it has proven that mamas can still dance. >> some of them. some of them. >> touché. >> yeah. all right. moving on to president trump and the optimism that there will be a vaccine for covid-19 before the end of the year. he says maybe sooner. the scientists just are not sure. >> we're live from the white house on the next hour of "new day" starts with you right now. ♪ vaccine or no vaccine, we're back. >> a nationwide experiment shifting into high gear. >> i am excited. but it's, you know, like i said, it's just nerve-racking. >> it's either open or close my doors for good. >> do not underestimate this virus and do not play with this virus. >> there is a real risk that you will trigger an outbreak you may not be able to control. >> it will go away at some point. it will go away. ♪ >> good morning to you. we're so grateful to have your company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> so this morning there are new developments we want to talk to you about in this high stakes race for a coronavirus vaccine. researchers around the globe they're just scrambling to develop a working vaccine. president trump formally

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