Were so grateful for your company. Its saturday, august 15th, im christi paul. Im victor blackwell. Youre in the cnn newsroom. This morning, theres major uncertainty about the president ial election. The Postal Service says in almost all of the 50 states and d. C. Mailin ballots may not make it in time to be counted. I want to get you back to some of the pictures were seeing. Protesters outside the postmaster generals home in d. C. Right now. Theyre accusing lewis d. Joy of limiting mailin voting after he made changes to the Postal Service including eliminating overtime, slowing mail delivery. A Postal Service Inspector General is now reviewing its controversial policy changes and potential ethics conflict. Last night the u. S. P. S. Did agree it would stop removing boxes in 16 western states and parts of two others until after the election. President trump has repeatedly claimed that mailin ballots cause voter fraud and favor his democratic component joe biden. According to several studies, mailin voting does not benefit one Political Party over the other. Sarah westwood is with us from the white house. The mail inform voting has been on the president s mind for quite some time. What are we learning this morning about what he thinks . Reporter well, good morning. The president is speaking out again this morning about mailin voting. That comes on the heels of the revelations that the Postal Service in late july warned 46 states plus the district of columbia that their election rules are incompatible with Postal Service operations right now. That means that in those states, most states, the election rules, the deadlines for requesting and returning ballots dont actually leave enough time for the Postal Service under Current Conditions to deliver those ballots. That just throws into sharp relief the challenges facing people who do want to vote by mail because of coronavirus concerns heading into november. I want to read you a tweet that the president wrote this morning about the Postal Service and the mailin voting situation. He wrote, the democrats know the 2020 election will be a fraudulent mess. Well maybe never know who won. Now, thats, of course, not true. Expects say there will be a definitive answer if mailin voting is heavily relied upon in november. It could take a little longer to count all of the votes especially in the states that are expanding vote by mail to new heights. The president is exploiting the likelihood of that situation to cast doubt on the validity of the eventual results. Democrats blamed the postmaster general for sabotaging the Postal Service to undermine its ability to deliver mailin ballots including cost cutting changes like eliminating overtime and slowing down some mail delivery times and those are the changes that democrats want to see the Postal Service reverse and the president this week says he opposes additional funding for the Postal Service, it needs to make those changes because he does not want to see mailin voting greatly expanded come november. Hes later said, though, he would agree to give the Postal Service that extra funding if democrats agreed to the types of stimulus bill requests that republicans want right now, victor and christi. Sarah westwood, appreciate it so much. Thank you. Were seeing more evidence this morning as well as to how the coronavirus pandemic has devastated families across the country. People are lined up in atlanta for a huge food drive there. Natasha chen is with us from atlanta. I know that people have been lined up there. This is whats surprising to a lot of people for hours just to get some of this. But its indicative of how much help they need. Reporter yeah, christi and victor. The first car that was parked right here this morning had really waited three hours for this. We know there are at least 105 cars with multiple families sometimes in each car. And let me just show you whats happening around here. Theyre pulling around, popping their trunk and this is where they are going to get, you know, some chicken, some vegetables and this is what were hearing from these families is that some of them had come to these Food Distribution centers before in the past but things have gotten even harder during the pandemic. And some of them i talked to are here for the very first time. As you can imagine, a lot of people have lost their jobs during covid19. And what theyre saying is that theyre really relying on unemployment right now. And in addition to just needing some immediate help with food, its an emotional toll as well. So you can see just how many people are coming around. That woman right there in the blue shirt is the founder and ceo of caring for others. We talked to her before this started this morning about what shes seen. Here is what she said. Well, when we be gone, it was a shorter line. Now its a longer line. Sometimes its so hard when you have to turn away families when you say i have no more. The last distribution we had to turn away families. And i had to get up and walk away. Reporter and of course, in addition to the struggles of people, you know, needing immediate assistance, shes saying that she feels bad that she cant really do too much more in terms of their longterm help. And thats really where people are struggling right now. In the meantime, we are seeing these case numbers just continue to be more than 3,000 on a daily basis here in georgia for over a month. And the people ive been talking to have been frustrated with that, seeing that the situation is not really improving, not knowing how long this pandemic is going to last. Yeah. Natasha chen, a lot of people having some difficult time now. Thanks so much. Now, when you add to the food insecurity, the issue of eviction, you can imagine how much stress so many families are facing. I spoke with hanna adams, shes an attorney, who is helping renters in new orleans with legal services. She says that evictions are three times what they were this time last year. I want to show you what the result of that. These are belongings of an evicted family that have just been dumped on a street. Now earlier this morning we asked hanna about the circumstances in louisiana that lead to sights like this. Once you receive a judgment in court, you can be given as little as 24 hours to get out of your house. And if youre not out by then, the constable is going to show up at your door and put all your stuff on the street and physically remove you from the property, just like you saw in those pictures. So what ends up happening is folks either face physical removal like that or they just have to leave and leave all their stuff behind. So these lowincome families are losing all of their belongings in addition to facing the financial catastrophe of eviction and trying to find a new home the middle of the pandemic. Were just being inupdated with folks who are struggling to pay rent and dont know when theyre going to receive a paycheck again. And on top of that just had their federal Unemployment Benefits cut over night at the end of july. So we have a lot of clients who are Service Industry workers, hospitality workers, musicians, performers, all the people that make new orleans what it is and why people come here to visit. All of those folks lost work. If they were lucky enough to get federal Unemployment Benefits, they just lost those. So we have folks receiving 30, 50, 100 a week now, which you just simply cant live on let alone feed your kids and pay rent. Yeah. Hannah adams shared the story of single mother living with her 3yearold on just 28 a week after she lost her job. Here is what i love to tell you after watching our interview, hannah says someone has already called to pay her clients rent. We thank all of you who watched this, who care enough and who are able and willing to do something that really is life changing for somebody. It is fantastic. Thank you. Thank you so much. Now the man in charge of coronavirus testing in the u. S. Says the Trump Administration is doing everything it can to increase capacity. Well talk about that with the director of the centers for Infectious Disease research and policy next. Also, center Kamala Harris is breaking barriers. The first africanamerican and Asian American woman to become a democratic presumptive Vice President ial nominee. Shes talking for the first time about what we should expect. Alright, i brought in ensure max protein to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you dont. [grunting noise] ill take that. Woohoo 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. Ensure max protein. With nutrients to support immune health. The cdc say that people who recovered from coronavirus do not need to quarantine or get tested again for up to three months. Yeah. The White House Coronavirus testing czar says the administration has done everything they can to increase testing capacity. Cnns Brynn Gingras is following the very latest. But we know the u. S. Is still struggling with testing delays and supply Chain Shortages as well. Reporter yeah. Theres continued criticism that the administration should really take the reigns on this issue and create a uniformed strategy because, as we know, right now states are left to do what they can on their own with testing. And its just really exacerbating the problems all across this country. This, as the death toll just continues to go up. The u. S. Averaging more than 1,000 deaths a day, not for one week or two but for almost three weeks. And now the cdc forecasting by september 5th the country may reach a death toll of nearly 189,000. If there is a good idea, i want to hear it. Reporter the administrations testing czar appearing on cnn friday after Health Experts challenged his earlier statements that the country is doing an appropriate amount of testing. Right now were testing 7, 800,000 people, a fraction of the number we need. Reporter would you say enough has been done, enough has been done to make sure that everyone who needs a test gets a test in the country . Everything that can possibly be done has been done. I spent every day trying to increase testing. What i want people to understand, though, is that testing is not the panacea, its not the answer. Reporter in georgia where the state reached its highest death toll this week, the governor is praising his states testing efforts, despite the Atlanta Journal constitution reporting that recommendations from the White House Task force urged the governor to boost mitigation measures since the states infection rate is nearly double the national average. Youre going to tell me that the data that the governor is looking at and examining is the right data . If it is, we wouldnt be in the top five with other states that are twice, three times or four times the size the state of georgia. Reporter california now at a disheartening milestone after taking a onetwo punch from the virus the state recording more cases than any other state in the country, more than 600,000. Were not out of the woods. Reporter for 53 straight days, florida counting more than 4,000 new cases daily. There are growing concerns in illinois which is reporting its highest number of cases since may. One potentially promising note, hospitalizations across the country are declining. This virus hasnt changed. Its the same as it was before and doing very substantial damage to the country. I think we really have to be very focussed on mask use, avoiding large gatherings, social distancing, hand hygiene. This plateau were in now its fragi fragile. It could go back in the other direction if people begin to relax. Reporter this week the cdcs director told americans to expect the worst fall we have ever had. Its why many parents and teachers are still grappling with tough decisions when it comes to schools. A member of my family is at high risk. If im put into a classroom of 30 more kids, its a small room, theres one exit, the ventilation isnt all that great for schools. Reporter in georgia, one district saw 80 cases of covid19 just this week, resulting in the quarantine of more than 1,100 teachers and students. Parents there calling on the governor to reevaluate the reopening of schools. And the cdc says guidelines the two pediatricians telling them that the number of cases among children while theyre steadily increasing likely because schools are reopening, camps are going on. That same guidance essentially says that kids can get very sick from this. They say if you look at the population of children that are hospitalized from covid19, one in three children can end up in the icu. Guys, that is no different from how much we see in adults as well. Brynn gingras for us in new york. Thank you so much. Lets bring in michael osterhome, the director and professor at the university of minnesota. Director, thank you so much for being with us. Good to see you. Thank you. I want to get your reaction first of all of what we heard from brett who said everything that can possibly be done has been done, essentially by this administration. Your thoughts. Well, first of all, we need to have a much better definition of what we mean by testing. Right now we have tests being done coming back days later which is really not a test in my mind. We urge people to think about smart testing. The right people get tested at the right time with the right test for the right result and the right outcome. And so in that regard, what hes saying is that, yes, theres a lot of tests out there. But we still see that the right people are not getting tested. In that regard, we dont have the testing we need. Who are the right people . Right now everyone who is symptomatic, that actually potentially could be infected. Number two is all their contacts. The people who might be asymptomatically infected that could be there. We need special populations covered, such as longterm care facilities, congregate work areas where we may need to do testing routinely on almost a daily to at least once a week basis. So, those are the groups we really need to concentrate on right now. Ideally every american should get tested everyday if they could. Thats not going to happen. So then we need to take the testing capability we do have right now and use it better in a way that will help us give the public the information they need to know whether or not theyre transmitting this virus to others. You say the coronavirus is spreading like wild fire and going to continue to do so until we achieve sufficient herd immunity. This is what dr. Fauci said about herd immunity. Coronavirus cases and deaths dont lie and that a lot of people are going to die if we target herd immunity. Right. What were saying is we will get to herd immunity one way or another, whether we get there because of illness or vaccine. Its the concept of being immune. And what herd immunity means is that when you get between 50 to 70 of the population that is now immune, the virus transmission will slow down. Its like putting immune rods in a virus transmission reaction. So its not a discretionary issue. Well get there one way or the other. The challenge how is do we get there . Right now only between 8 to 10 of the u. S. Population has been infected by this virus. That means we have a long ways to go to 50 . Were trying to hold out until we get vaccines that can get us there. In the meantime, we cant just give up. So we have to understand how to suppress this infection to have as few people as possible infected until we get to a time to have a vaccine. But if we hear this morning that you dont have to get tested for three months if youve had it, does that mean that it is believed antibodies only last three months and at that point what good would heard immunity do . Great question. Number one, were now three months out in a way that we can look at people who were infected earlier in the spring and say, you know, they still have evidence of some protection. Could be longer than three months. So this is just kind of you might say an update, a message. But youre absolutely right. And this is one of the challenges that i have been raising for months that we dont know what the status of what we call durable immunity is. Will natural infections or vaccines gets through . That means the protection would be lifelong or at least for many years. And with coronavirus, as we know with other ones that doesnt happen. So, i think that this is going to be a huge challenge and to get us to herd immunity may mean we would basically have to be revaccinated over time or we can count on having multiple infections over our life time with this, which would be a real problem. And youre right. Theres so much new information that keeps coming out about this. And twists and turns with this virus. One of which is this morning the American Heart Association saying covidrelated heart damage is worse than they originally thought. Do we know how much worse and what that means . No. Were basically in one big natural experiment right now. We have to just acknowledge that. You know, some of the things that will be clear and evident a year from now which we wish we would have known then can only happen because we have spent that year living with this virus. And so, the challenges of, for example what are the longterm effects of being infected with this virus. This is why i keep really emphasizing to young adults, please dont dismiss this virus. You say, well, im not going to get that sick. We dont know what the longterm effects of this virus might be. Were already hearing of young adults who get infected, who think, oh, its no big deal and a month later theyre having real health problems. This is unfortunately information we all want right now. What will this look like a year from now . We have to live with this virus for a year to find that out. All right. Michael osterholm, we appreciate your expertise and sharing it with us. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Pretty unusual kritd schism of joe bidens running mate pulled a cartoon character into the fray. I usually dont get into politics, but the president s Senior Adviser jenna ellis just said Kamala Harris sounds like me. Coming up, more of why Marge Simpson says she feels disrespected and what this exchange tells us about the Trumps Campaign struggle to settle on a Kamala Harris narrative. Hey hey man, youre here you dont trust me here in vegas, do you . Uh, well, i thought we had a breakthrough with the volkswagen. We did, yeah we broke through. Thats the volkswagen . Thats the cross sport. Wow. Seatbelts please just tell me where were going. Are ywho experience occasional bloating, gas,s or abdominal discomfort . Taking align every day can help. 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She praised joe bidens choice and highlighted what it means in the days ahead. Joe biden had the audacity to choose a black woman to be his running mate. How incredible is that . And what a statement about joe biden. That hoe decided that he was going to do that thing that was about breaking one of the most substantial barriers that has existed in our country and that he made that decision with whatever risk that brings. I think as much as anything its a statement about the character of the man that were going to elect as the next president of the united states. Lets bring in now cnn political commentators a lice stewart and maria. They host a podcast together hot mics from left to right. Im just learning about this. That is great. Welcome back to both of you. Thank you. Great to be here, victor. Youll be one of our first guests. We would love to have you. Absolutely. Excellent. Alice, let me start with you. We heard the president flirt with the birtherism law with Kamala Harris. Do you expect that will be fruitful, that will have any Significant Impact this cycle . I hope not. Look, to use that language and to use that talking point i have said when he used it against obama its ill advised. Its ill informed and also not productive. You look at what the issues the American People are concerned with. It is health care, meaning covid, the economy, meaning jobs, and race relations. And right now on what he is doing to help the economy and certainly help get this country back on track with regard to covid and going down the bertherism route will not further that narrative. All right. Lets move on to this, marie yarks a lot of democrats are really looking forward to the Vice President ial debate between senator harris and Vice President pence. But i wonder why. Short of that little girl was me moment, most of her debate performances during the primary were not lauded and then there was this back and forth. Lets watch. To reiterate, you support the medicare for all bill i think initially cosponsored by senator bernie sanders. Yes. I believe it will totally eliminate private insurance. So for people out there who like their insurance, they dont get to keep it . Well, listen, the idea is that everyone gets access to medical care. And you dont have to go through the process of going through an Insurance Company, having them give you approval, going through the paperwork, all of the delay that may require. Who of us has not had that situation where you got to wait for approval and the doctor says, well, i dont know if your Insurance Company is going to cover this. Lets eliminate all that. Lets move on. Do you believe that private insurance should be eliminated in this country. No. You dont . I do not. But you raised your question last night. The question is would you give up your private insurance for that option . And i said yes. Oh, i think you heard it differently than others. So this back and forth and there was also some muddiness over the bussing issue. Why are democrats so confident in her ability to beat pence in a debate . Because, first of all, when there is going to be a debate about health care, theres going to be no question and frankly no competition between who and what ticket is for giving more access to more americans to Quality Health care and which party is trying to take away health care from millions of americans. That will be a slam dunk for senator harris. Also, victor, do you remember watching her during the impeachment hearings . She eviscerated the witnesses. She eviscerated jeff sessions. He said to her, im afraid of your questioning right now. So, people are focussing on her prosecutorial debate skills, on her toughness, on her understanding of the issues, on how much she has fought for working families, for immigrants like you said, as a la tina, im so thrilled that joe biden picked her, she understands the immigrant experience. But, maria, thats a different format. Its a different format, right, in the Senate Confirmation hearings you have five minutes to ask the question. It is the senators time. When youre in a debate, you have, what, 60 seconds and youre bouncing back and forth with a 30 second rebuttal. I mean, same same is the comparison, debate to debate. She will shine. I guarantee you right now victor she is going to sign shine and blow mike pence out of the water. You know why else, victor, because they have no idea how to go at her. Right . You have what some of his supporters, even in his own administration calling her weak on crime. Mike pence called her weak on crime. And others saying she is a prosecutor that would lock up and throw away the key. You cant have it both ways. Victor, if i may go ahead, alice. If i may politely and respectfully reply to my friend there. Ill give it to Kamala Harris, she has a strong prosecutorial background. Shes strong. It gets down to the end of the day, she might get an a on performance but shell fail on policy. What mike pence will do with her on the debate stage will remind people across this country and specifically the independence that will make the difference come november on her policy with regard to green new deal, with regard to health care for i illegal immigrants, policies far to the left of general election electorate wants and sit there and call her moderate joe and moderate kamala, theyre progressives and the new face of the democratic party. That is failing for the voters. Yes, they are. Alice, let me stay with you. I want to talk about the post office. The president directly linked refusal to increase funding for the post office for his desire to control, to limit mailin voting. And we heard from senator romney, when politicians attack a judicial system, attack, a voting system, attack a free press these threaten the foundation which not only our democracy rests but democracies around the world rest. Theres no evidence of widespread fraud. Whats the plausible explanation of this live give him some electoral advantage to control, to limit mailin ballots. Look, i think the best way we can do elections is but that is not feasible with coronavirus going on. We need to look at other ways. Absentee ballots is much more foolproof to verify one person, one vote. There are have problems. Its not tremendously widespread, but there are problems with mailin voting when they mail out millions of ballots that sit in mailboxes that can be used fraudulently. The key is to make sure we guarantee right now that the focus of the administration and people on republican and the democratic side that this will be a free and fair election. This will be done with the fullest of integrity. But keep in mind, victor, as many know, i used to be deputy secretary of state in arkansas, these elections are run state by state. The states have been given money to execute elections safely and fairly. Not enough. Use it wisely. So we can ensure with the voters that their votes counted. So there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud. Right. Lets put that in bold letters with an exclamation point. Maria, what do democrats need to do this week at the convention . They need to underscore through joe biden, through Kamala Harris, through all the amazing speakers that were going to be having throughout every night that this is going to be a ticket thats going to fight to bring america together. What joe biden said at the beginning of his campaign, this is a fight for the soul of america, victor. We can no longer have a president and an administration that self deals that is corrupt, that focuses on dividing us, that focuses on racism, white supremacy, misogamy, sexism. That is not the kind of america that we all want and deserve. What joe biden and Kamala Harris will speak about how to rebuild america together, how to focus on this Global Pandemic and believe in science and believe in facts which this administration has done nothing but call this virus a hoax. This is existential and thats the point that we will be making. Alice, to you, quickly, the president will travel to four states during the week during the convention. Sean hannity gave him a toss up and said what do you want to do for the second term. Ive never been here before for 45 seconds. What does the president want to do in a second term . Whats his case to the voters . Clearly he wants to focus on what he has already promised to people and that is ensuring we have a strong economy. Immigration is big. I would imagine once he gets into his second term, not if but when there will be more of an emphasis on all right. Were having a technical issue with your signal breaking up. Alice stewart, maria cardona, thank you both. The Democratic National Convention Starts monday. The roll of the Electoral College will be back in focus during this election, of course. Coming up, well speak to our weekday new day colleague john berman about his new cnn special report count on controversy inside the Electoral College its airing tonight. Do stay with us. Theres dash cam Police Cameras capturing a life or death moment involving a 3 week old child. Well show you what happens here. Were seeing it again. The virus spreading out of control. The president , once again, failing to act. Joe biden knows we need to listen to medical experts and take action now. That starts by expanding testing, calling for mask mandates nationwide starting immediately, and producing more protective gear here at home. Fighting this virus and rebuilding our economy will take a president whos ready to lead. Im joe biden and i approve this message. Always have been. And always will be. Never letting anything get in my way. Not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. And certainly not arthritis. New voltaren provides powerful arthritis pain relief to help me keep moving. And it can help you too. Feel the joy of movement with voltaren. Well, today marks 75 years since japan unconditionally agreed to accept the terms that would end world war ii. Formal surrender was signed september 2nd. So in the United Kingdom and the u. S. , todays known as victory over japan day. A wreath laying ceremony was held in london. Also a ceremony held at a shrine in tokyo. Japans Prime Minister shinzo abe attended along with japanese emperor and grandson of emperor who ruled japan during the war. An officer in michigan is being called a hero after rushing into save the life of an infant. Cnns ryan young has the story of their call of duty. Reporter officer of the Sterling Heights Police Department in michigan got a heart stopping call of a baby in distress. [ crying ] hes blinking. I was about a mile away from the house. I was right around the corner when the call came out. And the only information i got from our dispatch was theres a 3 week old infant not breathing and everyone is screaming in the background. Okay. Calm down. Calm down. Let me see the baby. Reporter dash cam video picks up the next very tense seconds filled with fear. Please, please, please. I was checking the babys mouth to see if i could see anything. Didnt see anything. And then next thing after that try to do some back blows to dislodge whatever might be deeper down in the babys airway. And i gave her three back blows and that third one i heard a faint cry come. Reporter even before the ambulance could arrive, the baby was breathing on her own. Yes. There you go. Okay. Hes crying. Hes crying. It was a sigh of relief. I think i actually before i spoke into my radio i spook one a deep breath and put that out over the air that baby is crying, which it brings joy to everyone. But that was definitely a giant sigh of relief. You know, what was going on in the emotion in that moment and anyone that has a child, any mother on the planet that watches that video, any family, you can just feel the pain, the confusion, the worry. Its all there in the moment, you know, those two or three minutes very powerful. Reporter his chief couldnt be more proud of his young officer. Ive been a Police Officer for 25 years. The last couple months have been brutal. Not just for me but every cop in the united states. What a lot of people dont see is what we do every single day. Our guys do great police work, including saving lives. Reporter he got to meet the infant and the family as they thanked the officer for his calm under pressure. Police officers from around the world have reached out to say good job, but he got the seal of approval from his hero and the man who made him want to be a Police Officer his dad, who also served as a Police Officer for 20 years. And he said, usually its the dad thats the hero to the son, but hes like, youre my hero today. It hits home. It really does. It pulls on the heart strings. Im a human just like everyone else in this world. Reporter ryan young, cnn, chicago. Announcer beyond the call of duty, brought to you by advanced auto part. Advance your auto at advance auto parts. Ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Whoohoo great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. Thats why ive got the power of 1,2,3 medicines with trelegy. The only fdaapproved, oncedaily 3 in 1 copd treatment. With trelegy and the power of 1, 2, 3, im breathing better. 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Go national. Go like a pro. Its one that needs to be revised. Born hundreds of years ago. Really was a frankensteins monster of sorts. Challenged and criticized but fiercely resilient until now. There are some issues. For better or worse i tried a hail mary. I think we can do something about this. I decided maybe someone should take a stand. We were the Bad News Bears of the political world. Reporter going rogue meant taking risks. Did you think you were committing a crime . No. No. We were fined 1,000. Reporter and the backlash was brutal. Plenty of Death Threats and hate. Reporter a desperate political play to try to keep one man from becoming president. Stop trump i think it scared people. No one used the Electoral College this way. That you thought you had the power to change history. I thought we had the power to prevent a demagogue from taking office. Election 2020. The path to defeating donald trump. Reporter could happen again. America should not take lectures on Racial Justice from joe biden. We are going to be in uncharted territory. This is a pandoras box. So thats just a clip from the new cnn special that airs tonight count on controversy inside the Electoral College with that other new day man. The other new day man. John berman is with us now. John, good morning to you. Listen in considering in five cycles you had two split decisions, this is such a rich topic and President Trump has been on both sides of this issue. Absolutely. 2012 he literally tweeted there is a tweet for everything that the Electoral College is a disaster for democracy. That was 2012. And as we sit here today, he has got a clear Electoral College advantage. Our friend crunched the numbers and the president does better in the Electoral College than he does with the vote overall. You want a few reasons for that, victor, number one, is because the six closest states that donald trump won last time, the battleground states, there are about 7 whiter than the rest of the country. And those six same battleground states have about 10 more noncollege whites which is one of Donald Trumps strongest groups. Thats where his advantage lies. He lost the popular vote which he hates to hear by about 3 million votes in 2016. If you run some of the numbers, you could see how he could lose by even more in three months, maybe as many as 5 million plus votes and still win the Electoral College. So thats whats sort of caused me to look into this more deeply and say, hey, whats going on here . Why do we have this system to begin with . And what attempts, if any, have ever been made to fix it . I think youre going to answer a lot of questions for a lot of people that have those same questions for a while. Yeah. Yeah. The answers are not terribly satisfying i have to say, christi. Its really interesting. You heard one of the experts say that it was a frankensteins monster to begin with, and it was. The Electoral College was this compromise to begin with. It never really worked the way the founders wanted it to. They had to amend it 12 years in to the entire republic. They had to amend it in 1800 because they screwed up the whole president Vice President thing. But theres nothing in the constitution that requires people, citizens, to vote for president. I didnt know that. All the constitution requires is that the state legislatures pick the electors in the means they want to. Early on some of the states and legislatures picked the electors without an election all together. It wasnt until many years in to the republic that the states started Holding Elections universally and in terms of how they apportion the electors, the winner take all system by state which is something creates a lot of the issues that people see, that developed over time as well. That is not something necessarily that the founders ever envision. In fact, james madison, more or less wrote the constitution, he hated it. He was complaining that the states were going to that winner take all system well after he was president. Bermen, we cant wait to see it. I will be tevoing. Welcome to the weekends. Come back and visit. Its great to see you guys. There are songs. This is one the Electoral College special thats got musics from there might be giants in it. All right. Well be watching. Well be tevoing because its at 10 00 p. M. Tonight. I might be up. Oh, he might be up. Hes giving you big props there if hes going to be up. We do give you props here. Count on controversy inside the Electoral College. Its tonight 10 00 p. M. Eastern. Just one shark fin is enough to clear swimmers from most beaches. Just one. Not jim. Tomorrow on new day weekend hell tell us about these ocean predators. This winning is stunning of Close Encounters with sharks. 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