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third among some brand new surprising cnn polls. happy monday, everyone, i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. those stories and more at this hour. in paris right now, a fragile coalition appears to be taking shape against the terror group isis but the threat posed by the sunni militants is so unprecedented that it's not at all even certain the world even knows how to deal with it. what we do know right no is that about 40 nations have agreed to take on some sort of limited role. france today began surveillance flights over iraq. saudi arabia has offered to help train syrian rebels and great britain says it will help arm kurdish forces in iraq. >> now, in some quarters, the urgency to do something greatly ramped up over the weekend when isis beheaded its third western hostage, british aid worker david haines. isis is believed to be holding at least two other americans as well as several other people from other countries as well. western nations join the fight against isis include canada, italy, france, denmark, new zealand and australia all at differing levels but perhaps even more telling are some of the middle eastern countries who have express add willingness to get involved, again, at different levels as isis runs rampant across much of syria and iraq. >> for many skeptics, this sounds early familiar, like the mad dash to the iraq war of a decade ago. secretary kerry tried to dispel that yesterday on cbs' "face the nation." >> this is not a war. this is not combat troops on the ground. it's not hundreds of thousands of people. it's not that kind of mobilization. but in terms of al qaeda, which we have used the word "war" with, yeah, we're at war with al qaeda and its affiliates and in the same context if you want to use it, yes we're at war with ie still that sense. but i think it's a waste of time to focus on that, frankly. let's consider what we have to do to degrade and defeat isil and that's what i'm frankly much more focused on. >> we're joined by chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. we just heard from the secretary putting together this coalition. it seems to me there are 40 different nations contributing at 40 different levels. probably for 40 different reasons here. >> the reason might be the same here because you see with a rarity that you you rarely see in the middle east that a diverse group of countries, bot sunni and shi'a, arab and western see isis as a threat. but all these countries are willing to give a different level of support. from what i understand, that support is not yet defined. i heard from an arab diplomat a short time ago who said the commitments from his country haven't been made yet. they have not been made in writing so a lot of these public pronouncements of support so far from r in general term ace mortar fous terms. you've had secretary derry say some countries are willing to put ground troops in but won't specify who those are. he also said arab countries willing to take part in air strikes but what hasn't been defined is what does that mean? dropping bombs? doing surveillance flights? does it mean for instance doing refuelling flights, etc.? it seems the administration is defining pretty broadly what participation will be in air strikes in the whole military campaign which gets to your point, john, that, yes, to some degree every nation will give exactly what it can and i think the u.s. and west would be willing to accept that. >> the big question is what about boots on the ground? many of our military experts have said that air strikes alone won't do the job. to another point that we know the president is getting heat about is this notion that he revealed too much when he outlined the u.s. strategy towards isis to the point that commanders may have already -- of the isis people may have already essentially taken countermeasures. what about this thought that the president overdid it the other day? >> i think this is one of those points where you're dammed if you do dammed if you don't. remember a couple weeks ago when the president said he didn't have a strategy for syria, clearly it was partly in response to wanting to come to the american public and say indeed i do have a strategy and here are the steps i want to take. they don't want to violate operational security and give the time and place and the air assets and the kinds of bombs they'll drop, et cetera, but they do want to let the american people know that they're acting and i suppose that's one of those troubles that we have, you know? we live in an open society here so you can't do everything in secret. the president answers to the public, to congress, et cetera, so he's got to give something in public. but he's not going to give the secretive stuff in public. he's not going go that far. >> that's a good point, jim "what's your strategy? what's your strategy?" then "why did you tell us your strategy?" jim sciutto, thank you. coming up in a bit, we'll have senator mark kirk, republican from illinois. we'll ask him why doesn't congress want to get involved in this? why not vote to either support or oppose the air strikes? we'll ask the senator what he intends to do. also, reports ray rice will appeal his suspension from the nfl for domestic abuse. we'll look at how the league has changed with four of its players in trouble right now. and an actress from "jiang go unchanged" was cuffed after refusing to give police her identification when they questioned her about making out with her boyfriend in public. her boyfriend happens to be white, she's black. we'll hear her side of the story coming up. we know we're not the center of your life, but we'll do our best to help you connect to what is. big day? 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(laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. while the united states and its allies debate about what to do with isis, there's one body we haven't heard from much -- the united states congress. although that could change over the course of the week as it debates military action. >> republican senator mark kirk of illinois is the ranking member of the appropriations subcommittee for military construction and veterans affairs. he joins us this morning from chicago. senator, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> there is this question, why is congress not necessarily jumping at the chance to get on record and have any hearings or authorization votes? what are your thoughts? >> congress is a very risk adverse when you put a difficult issue in front of senators and congressmen they don't want to be forced to decide. in this case they should be forced to decide. we should have a vote on this mission. the american people should see their representatives in congress make a decision on that critical national security question. >> to be clear, senator, you want the vote to be on whether to launch air strikes against isis in syria or not, not this separate issue of perhaps training the so-called moderate syrian rebels in a different country. you want a vote on the military action at hand, the whole shebang. >> right. there is a military reason for having a vote. the vote enlists the american people in the question to understand something that is big and expensive which could possibly be bloody. you want to make sure the american people understand very much what the mission is. understand why american blood and treasure should be expended on this mission. >> i think there's a lot of people saying gosh, this reminds us of many years back of the last time we found ourselves in this situation in iraq. if the president were to change his mind or to change course and change directions and said, yes, i want to call for u.s. forces on the ground in iraq, would you be supportive of that? >> i want to change the debate when we talk about air power only. let's talk about air power as boots in the air because there are lots and lots of americans who would be at risk, especially if their mission expands to syria which has a very large, incredible air defense system. if we're taking on targets at syria, expect to take losses. >> senator, i'm curious, again, about what you said at the beginning. you said congress is very risk averse, they're hesitant to take on controversial issues. to me there's no more important issue than the issue of war and peace. i don't think there's a more central issue that congress is supposed to decide on than war or peace. depending on what you read today, there's some suggestion that the issue of authorization for more serious military action, it may wait until after the midterm election. isn't that to a certain extent just political cowardice? >> it is. there should not be whippishness in the congress. we should make -- you know, sometimes i say when you're in a very high office, you should be ready to take on the big issues and look your constituents in the face and tell them why you've made the decision that you've made. >> you might be a lonely man these days on capitol hill. senator mark kirk from illinois, we appreciate you being here with us, thanks so much. >> we appreciate it. there are other stories we're following right now at this hour. there are multiple reports that ex-baltimore ravens running back ray rice will appeal his nfl suspension. he was suspended after the video came out of him hitting his then-fiance. as you know, that videotape was released, janay palmer was his fiance then. he hit her back in may. no, he hit her in february? hit her in february. he has until tomorrow night at 11:59 p.m. to appeal. we've reached out. the players' association does not know if or when that file willing come. >> kind of a bad season this year for nfl players. there are three accused players that sat out their games sunday because of charges. rachel nichols, the host of "cnn's unguarded" is here. it's interesting, rachel, john and i were talking about this earlier this morning. normally on a monday in football season we'd be talking about the -- lamenting your team's loss or a call the ref made instead of it being monday morning quarterbacking it's more like monday morning crime blotter for the nfl. >> it is really just -- a lot of people around the nfl for the a long time are calling it the worst week in league history. but i want to say something positive. you read about that lead in about three players being held off the field because of domestic abuse situations and charges that they are facing. that's a huge step forward. that is solely because of the public outdlie has been going on over the last eight to ten days and without the public getting involved and so upset about this i'm pretty sure all three of those players would have been playing this past weekend so i think we need to take a minute and say -- >> and recognize a win where it 1. >> say everything that has been talking about matters and it's worth continuing to have this conversation. >> i was struck today -- i'm a huge football fan and normally we'd be talking about the games and we're not. that discussion isn't happening. someone blew up his leg and yet people aren't talking about that. they're talking about the scandals so inside the nfl offices, how nervous they about this? do they have a strategy over the course of this season? can they last through this without heads rolling? particularly roger goodell? >> i think they're fumbling around right now and you can see that in the way they've scatter shot addressed this and ray rice appealing his suspension, by the way, has a lot to do with the fact that the nfl office came out last week and claim head had lied to them even though all the information was readily available in the police reports so it seems a little bit like trying to fin blame on an already unpopular guy and they said they suddenly suspended him indefinitely for the season because of "new information" when there didn't seem to be a lot of new information. so the appeal ray rice is doing is saying hey, you guys seem to be going by the seat of your pants here and even if you're not invested in whether ray rice wins his appeal or not, you have a concern as an nfl fan, hey, what is the policy, exactly. what are you doing? we heard over the weekend about adrian peterson and the charges against him involved in disciplining his son so zealously it's crossed into abuse and the nfl said "well, that's not going to be under the domestic violence policy." >> it's a very different issue. we were talking about that the as well. >> it just seems a bit arbitrary so i think there's a lot of people saying the nfl has to figure this out, right the ship and get it right. the end game, though, is roger goodell going to end up not being commissioner? i don't see that. >> you don't see it? >> there have been a lot of owners who have come out in support of him. he has a lot of power, he makes a lot of money for people charge. there's only 2 people in the entire country -- 32 people in the entire country who get to decide. those are the owners of the national football zbleeg 32 dudes making a lot of money. >> but our voice has had an impact so keep talking. >> it's a big league with a lot of players and they have to have a game plan. >> they have to do better. we have to hold them the fire. this is where america comes together, football. this is our most popular sport, this is our game. we have the right to demand it better. >> that's because we play it best. much better than canadian football league. >> i knew there was going to be a cfl mention. as rachel mentioned, another nfl is accuseed of child abuse for beating his four-year-old. a doctor says it caused injuries. adrian peterson's lawyer says it's how peterson was disciplined as a child. we'll have the debate next. you want to stick around for this that. also ahead at this hour, she's back. hillary clinton says she's thinking about it. even though she's not officially running for president yet, she's way ahead in some of the polls. whenwork with equity experts who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. that's the way i look at life. looking for something better. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin, but wondered if i kept digging, could i come up with something better. my doctor told me about eliquis... for three important reasons. one, in a clinical trial, eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin. two, eliquis had less major bleeding than warfarin. and three, unlike warfarin, there's no routine blood testing. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. those three important reasons are why eliquis is a better find for me. ask your doctor today if eliquis is right for you. wait, wait, wait, it's wait, wait, wait...whoa, does she have special powers when she has the shroud? 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[ boos ] [ laughter ] i'm hear for the steak. >> for the steak? hillary clinton says she's thinking about running for president, john. >> she made a speech at the annual tom harkin steak fry in iowa. you might have heard of iowa. iowa just happens to be the home of the iowa caucuses. the last time before this weekend that hillary clinton was in iowa she finished third in those caucuses behind then senator barack obama and john edwards. that was way back in 2008. >> so she's still not officially in the 2016 presidential race but there's so much for us to talk about. let's bring in our political panel. who do we have with us? >> doug hie is here, a former deputy chief of staff for eric cantor and former communications director for the rnc. >> and maria cardona is a political strategist, picking a wonderful color combination matching myself. >> you got it. >> i didn't get the memo, i'm sorry. >> clearly you failed. >> all right, maria, iowa we happen to know launched barack obama towards the white house, essentially derailed hillary clinton's campaign last time around. talk about what she needs to do differently to avoid the pitfalls and did you see evidence of that yesterday? >> i actually did see that, michaela, when i was looking at her speech and listening to folks who had been there, what i heard and what i saw was hillary clinton that was much more at ease. she was trying to make a personal connection with the crowds, even connections with reporters and we know that doesn't come so easy to her. i think her challenge this time around, mick clahaela is try an start off with where her 2008 campaign ended. if you recall, during the 2008 campaign, obviously after iowa, she found her voice. she found those connections. she found that personal hillary that i think everybody had a thirst to see and hear. i think her challenge this time around is to clearly start off on that to not have to wait so long to get there and she understands that. and i think she really started to do that this weekend in iowa. >> now, doug hye, i do not expect you to agree with maria and suddenly endorse hillary clinton in her race for president. i know your goal is to beat her, doug, or which ever democrat get the nomination. but i am curious as you sit here today, do you think that hillary clinton would be the toughest democrat to beat in a race for the white house? >> i think probably so and we saw a good example of it yesterday. not so much the speech which i would have a different opinion with maria on, but we saw the incredible organization that the clintons have that's not even a full organization yet. if you were following this event on twitter and watching it on c-span or cnn, obviously, what you saw was the most meticulously planned media event. maybe short of the derek jeter retirement ceremonies. that's how strong they've been. the clintons know how to do this. they know how to do it well. it's why republicans -- why we think she's vulnerable, we don't take her softly at all. >> maria, i just noticed somebody that that video that we just showed that was also there enjoying the steak fry, that was a mr. bill clinton. a lot of folks, a lot of buzz talking about him. we also know that was a bit of an issue last time around, talking about how -- this time they're talking about how he sees the spotlights, that he held court at this event. do you think he can keep himself from doing that this time around. >> well, we'll see. it will probably be a challenge, michaela, but i guarantee you that if she run there is will have been eight years of, i think, hard to heart conversations that have been had between the both of them. and i think he's pretty clear his role if she's going to run. i think another important thing here, though, michaela, to really realize and focus on. what she talked about this weekend was a lot of the populist themes that i also think she needs to underscore going into this. she talked about minimum wage. she talked about women's issues. let's remember the last time around she didn't necessarily embrace being the historic candidate. this time around if she jumps in i think she will do with that with gusto and focus on the issues that are so important to women which also underscores the huge gender gap with republicans. >> doug, i want to jump in with one last question here about a new cnn/orc poll making a lot of news today and i think a lot of you and your republican friends are pretty excited about it. it's from the state of new hampshire, the senate race there which shows the incumbent jean shaheen in a dead heat with former massachusetts senator scott brown. now, other polls have had shaheen slightly ahead, this one shows a dead heat right now. does this show what the president's popularity or lack thereof can do to democratic candidates around the country? is this dragging the incumbent down? >> absolutely. and we're seeing it not just in new hampshire where scott brown is doing a really strong job, we're also seeing that in kentucky where allison grimes released a new ad that said "i'm not barack obama." i can tell you having worked two races or three senate races in north carolina i remember really specifically wehner skin bowles would say "i'm my own man, i'm not bill clinton." it cost him against elizabeth dole and against richard burr in the seat that i ran and so that's the strength and that's the problem that obama has. he is dragging these candidates down and they don't know what to do except to throw him under the bus as quickly as they can. >> well, i wouldn't necessarily say throwing them under the bus. but they certainly need to have some distinction with him and, frankly, the white house blesses that strategy. anything that they can do to keep the senate, the white house will be happy with. >> maria cardona, doug heye, always a pleasure to have you. thanks for joining us today. are the united states and its allies taking the right approach from the threat from isis? 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what type of things can we do? the challenge here is how do you not have a police state, like going into the mosques, everyone says "wait a minute, talk to the imam first, see what's going on in the mosques." and if you're really dedicated to doing something bad you know where you won't go and talk about it? in a mosque because that's where the surveillance is and working with communities. working with the islamic centers lout the united states. this is a population of folks who've come here, hardworking immigrants and yet this has been since 9/11 a horrific issue for this nation. >> michael, michaela alluded to something. there's a lot of talk about the threat of home ground terror as a result of isis. but is it, in fact, worse than it was two years ago at the time of the boston marathon or ten years ago a little after 9/11 or eight years ago? is it worse now than it has been? >> well, when you see a trend over years, when you look at the cases. and the way to find the information 1 to go to the justice department cases and look at the prosecutions they've brought and you kind of see a drum beat that began right after 9/11 but then has kind of went down a little bit but then has spiked up. the challenge, of course, is you don't know when someone who is truly homegrown, radicalized, when that switch is flipped. you don't know when they suddenly decide one day i'm going to be -- i'm concerned, i'm going to taken a active role. and, you know, the other scary thing is that there's so much information on the web as to how to build a bomb. and people don't pay attention to that and we've seen a lot of attempts to do that. faisal shahzad, the guy in times square, how he was able to construct that device. so this is a challenge for law enforcement but you can't do it from the federal level only. you have to be out in the communities but, again, you can't go and demonize a community. >> absolutely. michael balboni, thanks for coming in to talk about it with us. we'll watch it with you. next up for us, some people say spank ago child is acceptable. it happened to all of us when we were growing up, why shouldn't it happen now? others say it's going too far. we're talking about adrian peterson, what he did, was that too much? how about regular spanking? we'll break it all down. ♪ hey, jake! come on over here for a sec. why you wanna touch my dart so bad? ♪ [ high-pitched ] why's he wanna touch it? ♪ who said i wanted to touch it? ♪ jake, you know they've got affordable leasing programs ♪ yeah, i know. i was just... ♪ just think, jake, you could get your own ♪ ♪ and you could touch it whenever you wanted ♪ ♪ you could touch it all the time ♪ ♪ all the time i don't want to touch your dart. ♪ i know you're mad, jake, but you've got to get your own ♪ i'm not mad. ♪ i know you're mad, jake ♪ ♪ but you've got to get your own ♪ ♪ i know you're mad, jake i'm getting mad, but wasn't... ♪ but ya gotta get your own ♪ nfl running back adrian peterson hit his four-year-old child a switch. that's a tree branch, leaving cuts and bruises on the backs of his legs. now people are asking, is that too far? what about regular spanking? is that too far? it's a discussion a lot of people are having today. >> so saturday the minnesota vikings player turned himself into police. he was released on $15,000 bail. he could actually face a two-year sentence if he's convicted. peterson's lawyer says his client was just doing what he had experienced as a child growing up in east texas, doling out the same punishment he had had. joining us is mel robbins legal commentator and mom and cnn digital correspondent kelly wallace, also a mother. mel, i'll start with you because i know you feel that peterson went too far and that you don't believe that kids -- parents should be hitting their kids at all. >> yes. that's true because if you think about it, the only person you can legally in the the united states is a child and that's absurd if you hit your domestic partner, it's domestic violence. if you hit another adult we call it assault but if you hit your kid in the name of discipline we call you a loving parent and i think that has to change. >> and, mel, in this case with adrian peterson, he used a branch, left welts and drew blood. i think law a lot of analysts think is fairly clear on what he did. but state state as a nation, what is the law? how much is too much? you can spank your kids everywhere, right? >> pretty much. there aren't any laws that i could find that make it illegal to spank or discipline your child using corporal punishment and this is the possible so unless a community of your peers finds it unreasonable you haven't crossed a line. so so when people do it because they're angry and have lost control of the child, they start hitting the kid. first of all, study after study has shown that it's not only ineffective as a disciplinary measure but it has negative long-term impact as well and regarding the law on this you can basically get away with hitting your kid with whatever you want as long as you don't leave a bruise. it's ridiculous. >> let's talk to kelly because we have to talk about culture and pierce and generational differences because i think all of us, the four of us having this conversation likely had a belt or wooden spoon or whatever, go out and pick your own switch in the backyard. but things have changed and the conversation now that i'm hearing, i don't have children but i hear from our colleagues is most of them feel like you don't spank children. >> right, the conversation has changed and as you said, many of us -- i was pinched. my mom would say -- >> you were pinched? >> i was pinched. my mother flicked? >> that's so passive aggressive. i never heard that before. >> trust me, there've been times i've been tempted but i don't do in the part because i'm aware of the studies mel has talked about to show it doesn't work and that it might lead to more aggressive behavior than leaving kids to behave in the first place. but it's you know, the people in the south where people might have more conservative religious beliefs more likely to spank. if income level is lower. is that because of stress? education level. so there are some -- in cultural, when you talk about cultures, african-american communities more likely to spank so there are real differences, you know, in families in cultures in terms of spanks even based on all the information we have. >> every human being i've spoken to of our age, i say, were you spanked as a kid, everyone says yes. >> and we turned out fine. >> debatable. in my case -- in my case only. but it's interesting i've asked parents our age also do you spank your kids, and the answer i get is no, but i have. which is a weird way of denying it. >> right. so they're saying they don't do it as a regular discipline approach, but there have been times they have been so pressed to do it. >> this is one of those discussions and debates where it's not going to go away. spanking is going to be parts of many different parts of this country, many different cultures here. what would you like to see happen that can happen? what kind of clarity do you want here? >> well, okay, i mean for me personally, i'd like us to be the 33rd country in the world to ban physical discipline for children because i think it's absolutely absurd that we're advocating and making violence against children. and it is violent. if you slap, pinch, hit, kick, whatever a kid, you are committing an act of violence. so i'd personally like to see the laws change. sort of that, there needs to be more education. particularly for toddlers and young kids, they're going through developmental stages where they're driven by curiosity. they may not be being disobedient. it's part of their biological wiring and here you are hitting them for it. so short of laws changing, the only thing that will change is more conversation about educating parents about other things that you can use in your toolbox so you're not trying to hit your kid into next week because you're angry. but that you're taking a deep breath and doing something different. >> parents will often say, use your words. maybe adults need to use your words as well. even words can be damaging. tell them what we're learning about. >> we're hearing that adrian peterson will be able to participate in practice this week and he is expected to play next week against the new orleans saints. he was forced to sit out this weekend, but will play weekend. the only person you can hit legally in the country right now, your kids. >> that's a sobering thought. >> let us know what you think. visit our facebook page, send us a tweet. we want to know your opinion. >> this one's going to generate conversations as well. they thought she was a prostitute. we're going to hear from her along with audio from the incident right after this. whenwork with equity experts who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. it's monday. a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable - secure - agile. and with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of the week. centurylink your link to what's next. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. 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