Hospital tonight. Two children and two adults. This area of the ozarks being a popular tourist destination. The governor made a point today of saying that many of the victims of this tragedy were traveling here from out of state. You can see the waters of this lake calm behind me now but severe thunderstorms, again, in the forecast here in Southeast Missouri tonight, erin. Horrible thing. Kaylee, thank you. Thanks to all of you for joining us. Anderson starts now. Good evening tonight. An exclusive interview with the attorney for alleged russian spy maria butina. The attorney joins us. Thats ahead. So is the latest on the mystery surrounding what happened Behind Closed Doors when President Trump met Vladimir Putin. Its a mystery because the white house wont tell us or tell you. In fact, were getting more from russia than we are from washington. We begin, though, with the president s former personal attorney and longtime fixer, Michael Cohen. Today, we learned he had made tapes of conversations with his client and others and federal authorities have those tapes. They were seized when the fbi
raided cohen including one from September Of 2016 when cohen, thencandidate donald trump, were talking about paying off former playboy model Karen Mcdougal who as you know alleged an affair with mr. Trump about ten years prior. While Melania Trump was pregnant and even after the birth of their son. Money Above And Beyond an arrange nlt with the National Enquirers parent company, ami, to buy miss mcdougals story and kill. This conversation took place two months before the election, september 2016. Several weeks later, just a few days before the election, the campaign denied any knowledge of the alleged affair, or the National Enquirer deal but thats getting ahead of the story. Lets start at the beginning as told to me exclusively by Karen Mcdougal earlier this year. So tell me about your first date. Our first date, i was told we were going to go to the Beverly Hills hotel for dinner. So he had told me that keith, his bodyguard, was going to pick me up at a certain time, and he did. And then we were driving over to
the Beverly Hills hotel, and keith drove around to the back and he said, we have to get out here because we dont want to walk through the hotel. And at that minute, im li, lik thinking to myself, are we going to a room . Thought we were having dinner at the Beverly Hills hotel. In the actual restaurant. Right. We did have dinner at the Beverly Hills hotel but in his bungalow instead. We had dinner for a few hours. We talked for a few hours. We had a great time. We were getting to know each other. We were talking about this birthd birthday. Then as the night ended, we we were intimate. When you got to the Beverly Hills hotel, and keith said were not going to go through the lobby, were going to go was it to a to a room at the Beverly Hills hotel or a suite or it was a bungalow if h back. A bungalow. Its the one he said he always stayed at, in fact, every time i met them there, it was the same exact bungalow. And he called it the Nicest Bungalow they had. So i guess thats why he chose that one. But thats, yeah, thats where we went every time. Well, fast forward to
november 4th of 2016, the the Wall Street Journal breaking the story of her allegations and the arrangement with the National Enquirer. Spokes person hope hicks telling the journal we have no knowledge of any of this. I asked Karen Mcdougal about it during our interview back in march. Hope hicks has said catego categorically you did not have a relationship, theres no truth to this. When you heard that denial, what did you think . I think somebodys lying and i can tell you its not me. Its a little hurtful, but at the same is time, i have to understand, like, if he were to tell hope hicks that he didnt do it, i guess i understand because hes trying to protect his family, his image, things like that. But it was definitely a little, like, wow, youre going to lie about that . Okay. Now, of course, its possible that hope hicks, herself, was being lied to, but barring that, we now know that four days before the election, the campaigns chief spokesperson was lying to voters. The cohen trump tape shows
candidate trump was made aware of the National Enquirer deal at least that september, two months before hope hicks said they knew nothing about it. Keeping them honest, perhaps we should have known given team trumps chronic trouble with telling the truth. Back in january of this year, of course, spokesman rob shaw said none of the allegations were true. Heres the White House Press secretary in march. Look, the president has addressed these directly and made very well clear that none of these allegations are true. This case has already been won in arbitration. Anything beyond that, i would refer you to the president s outside counsel. A month later, heres what the president said. Mr. President , did you know about the 130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels . No, no. What else . Why did Michael Cohen well, you have to ask Michael Cohen. Michaels my an attorney and
youll have to ask Michael Cohen. Do you know where he got the money to make that payment . I dont know. No. Well, a few weeks later his other attorney Rudy Giuliani said the president did, in fact, pay Michael Cohen. When i heard cohens retainer of 35,000, when he was doing no work for the president. I said, thats how hes retained . How hes repaying it. With a little profit and a little margin for paying taxes for michael. Thats giuliani essentially coming clean on the lie his client and people around him have been telling for months. As for Karen Mcdougal based on what we seen so par, tfar, the has just begun. Joining me now, Maggie Haberman who shares a byline on the breaking story today. There have been two explanations from the president s attorney, from giuliani today, since your story posted. Whats his latest explanation for these conversations . And lets talk fast because the story might change again. So, we were given an initial
explanation in which he indicated this was a separate payment, that this was a payment to mcdougal that was separate and apart from this Arrangement Mcdougal had with ami. He called back later to clarify that this was actually supposed on the tape, what theyre discussing, is obtaining the rights to her story from ami. They are giuliani was strenuously denying that this should be construed as a reimbursementme reimbursement, although some i think would interpret it that way. Hes adamant that it is not. I think that that has legal implications when it comes to the Campaign Finance piece of this. And in his telling of it, it was trump who said, lets do this properly and with a check. And it was Michael Cohen who either had suggested cash or didnt suggest a check in the first place. Someone close to cohen has adamantly denied that version of events that suggested that the presentation in which the
thencandidate was saying, lets do this all aboveboard, is not how this went down. Were obviously not going to know without hearing this. The conversation is short. Its around two minutes long. It cuts off at some point before the conversation is done. There are portions of it that are apparently inaudible in the transcript. And it will, you know, i think it will have to be heard, you know, by any of us to really understand whats being said. But what it clearly does, as you say, is undercut what the campaign told the Wall Street Journal in October Of 2016 which is that they knew nothing about this. Thats obviously not true. Whether hope hicks who made that statement was aware of that, i dont know. Its very possible that dronald trump didnt tell her the truth. It raises questions about the president s credibility at a time when his folks are trying to undermine Michael Cohen. Whats amazing about giulianis both of giulianis explanations. The first one is this would have been they were discussing an additional payment to Karen Mcdougal. Ami was claiming we werent
paying for her silence, we were paying her for the rights to her story, which we then didnt really believe, so we didnt publish it but we also wanted her to a columnist. If they were discussing just giving another payment to Karen Mcdougal, that is certainly pretty stunning. I understand why he would call back then and say actually, no, thats not what that was, even though thats what i just said it was. It was actually they were buying the rights to the story. That doesnt make much more sense. It doesnt make any sense. Donald trump is not a publisher. Right, trump magazine i think lasted for one or two editions and doesnt exist anymore. This would not have been a story you would have seen in it. That is also true. The distinction in the explanations i think has a legal one, as opposed to a personal one. The personal one, either way, is problematic for the president. There is no landscape in which this is a good thing for him. Right. In terms of in terms of what he has said about this before. Frankly, what makes the most
i cant i dont know what specifically is said on the tape because we havent heard it. What we were told by people close to both sides is this is the only and this was another point of clarification, initially we were told this is the only audio of them. Then we were told this is the only one of substance meaning this is the only one that isnt, you know, call me, call me back, ill call you. This is the only one that features a conversation of anything that is material to that Search Warrant on Michael Cohen in the first place in april. And and the your understanding is that the president had no idea that Michael Cohen had recorded him . No. The president did not know that he was recorded. Its still confusing to me how this recording came to be. Why its so short. And so forth. You know, we know that Michael Cohen had a long history of taping people, but, you know, he offer to often told people he taped himself as well as reminders of notes or to, you know, to, you know, prompt him about something
side. So i think what hes doing here, hes trying to spin it as exculpato exculpatory. I can understand in a legal sense why hes saying its exculpatory. Hes saying that, look, all of this shows is that in realtime, the president didnt know that the payoff was happening and they were discussing something after the fact. It doesnt take away from the fact, i dont im not as familiar with the New York City Bar rules that john just referred to, but there is something entirely reprehensible to a client about their lawyer recording them unbeknownst to them. I mean, the wohole idea of Attorney Client privilege, youre supposed to have a client be able to unburden themselves, tell you everything that they want to tell you and get your best advice. If im doing that with a lawyer who then when hes caught in the crosshairs is turning that over, leaking it, or releasing it and commenting on it, that does some great damage to the Attorney Client privilege. And as somebody i dont care how you take what your view is on trump, theres something thats just unseemly about the fact that these recordings, Attorney Client conversations. Jennifer, i mean, you know, the more someone always says, well, id take a bullet for you, id be loyal to the end to you, the less i believe them. I mean, people who generally are like that dont actually have to say that over and over and over again. And certainly, if you really are that loyal, you dont record secretly the person youre talking to. Yeah, it is very strange. I think the president has a right to be angry. I mean, unfortunately, for the president , its not a legal defense. He cant keep the recording out just because, you know, Michael Cohen shouldnt have done it. But thats right. And cohen is now in a position of having to decide whats he going to do . Is that loyalty that would have him take a bullet enough to send him to prison for years and have him do that . Thats what hes deciding now, and i think well know fairly soon here, as soon as charges are filed, which way hes decided to go on that. John, the circumstance
certainly different between what you went through in watergate, do you see parallels in your situation and what Michael Cohen is thinking . There are. He has to make a decision if hes going to come forward and tell the truth. I happened to make that decision when the cover yun wup was goi internally in the white house and broke rank. Hes at that point right now. My advice to him would be to break rank and tell truth. John dean, mark geragos. Coming up, why would russias special Counsel Robert Mueller want to from a woman who once ran a high priced new york call girl ring . Known as madam manhattan. Well ask roger stone. Late e the interview youll only see here, the attorney for the alleged russian spy joins us to talk about his client. To boo. With expedias addon advantage, booking a Flight Unlocks discounts on select hotels until the day you leave for your trip. Addon advantage. Only when you book with expedia. It was always our singular focus, a distinct determination. To do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. To fight cancer. And never lose sight of the patients were fighting for. Our Cancer Treatment specialists share the same vision. Experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. Specialists focused on treating cancer. Using advanced technologies. And more precise treatments than before. Working as hard as we can doing all that we can for everyone who walks through our doors. This is Cancer Treatment centers of america. And these are the specialists were proud to call our own. Treating cancer isnt one thing we do. Its the only thing we do. Expert medicine works here. Learn more at cancercenter. Com Cancer Treatment centers of america. Appointments available now. Is it to carry cargo. Greatness of an suv . Or to carry on a legacy . Its show of strength. Or its sign of intelligence . In crossing harsh terrain. Or breaking new ground . This is the time to get an exceptional offer on the mercedes of your midsummer dreams at the mercedesbenz summer event, going on now. Receive up to a 1,250 summer event bonus on select suvs. Mercedesbenz. The best or nothing. Politics, they say, makes for strange bedfellows sometimes. Apparently so do criminal investigations. Late today the Breaking News hit, special Counsel Robert Mueller wants to talk to a woman named krisit davtin davis. She was once known as the manhattan madam who ran a highpriced call girl ring some years back in new york city. Our m. J. Lee has more of the Breaking News. Whats the latest youre
learning about this . Anderson, as you said, we have learned today that special Counsel Robert Mueller has made contact with the lawyer representing Kristin Davis. As you said, shes a woman that some members of the public might better know her as the manhattan madam. She was ran a highend Prostitution Ring in new york city. If you recall, she actually went to jail as a part of the Prostitution Scandal that took down former new york governor Eliot Spitzer. Now, if theres going to be a subpoena that mueller and his team hand down to kristi in, davis, this woman, that has not yet happened. We got in touch with the lawyer who would be Representi Ining hf that happened. Now, we do not know at this point why the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, is interested in talking to thisle wo woman. Certainly a really intriguing and unexpected twist in this Robert Mueller investigation. She also has a connection to roger stone, who was obviously
at a time an adviser on the president s election campaign. Thats right. At this point in time if we were to make an educated guess, that might be one reason why Robert Mueller and his team are interested in talking to Kristin Davis. The two have known each other for a long time. Roger stone is actually the godfather to her child. Davis actually did some work were roger stone including, im told, doing some clerical work including some work related to his websites. Now, mueller, of course, as we all know, has been very interested in roger stone, and has also taken an interest in some of the aides that have worked for roger stone in the past. So, again, this might be the connection and the reason for his interest. Now, i do want to read a statement that we got earlier today from Kristin Davis lawyer. It said, Kristin Davis and roger stone are very good friends and she has worked on and off for him for the last ten years. Roger is the godfather to her son. She is currently in the Cosmetology Business and she knows nothing whatsoever about russian collusion with the 2016 election. Now, obviously, you can see there that shes trying to sort
of get ahead of the story and make it very, very clear from the getgo that she knows nothing that Robert Mueller might be interested in. M. J. Lee, thanks very much. Joining us nonow is roger stone. Thank you for being back on the program. So with mueller wanting to talk to Kristin Davisi, it would be the third exassociate thats been caught up in this investigation. Do you think youre a target of this investigation and thats why they want do talk to miss davis . I have no idea, thank you for having me back, anderson. First of all, last weeks indictments made pretty clear i had no advanced notice of the alleged hacking of the dnc, received no materials from guccifer 2, the russians or no one else, passed no material on to donald trump or wikileaks or Julian Assange or anyone else. Now, Kristin Davis is a good friend of mine. Shes a brilliant woman who has paid her debt to society. I always thought it was unfair
that she went to prison after the fall of Eliot Spitzer and he went to cnn to host a tv show. She has remade her life. She was not working for me during 2015. She worked for me during a portion of 2016. She went back to school to learn i. T. Skills. She has helped me build some websites, but she has no knowledge whatsoever of any russian collusion, collaboration with wikileaks, or anything else improper having to do with the 2016 recollectioelection. Can you see any situation where they want talk to her that doesnt have something to do with you . And on top of that, i guess has muellers office been in contact with you or your attorney . I cannot imagine anything other than that question. She has been an associate of mine for over ten years. Shes someone i have great affection for. I am, as m. Jj. Lee reported, t godfather to her son. Shes a single parent. Shes now in the Cosmetology Business. So would she have been handling email sorry, i didnt mean to interrupt. Would she have been handling email correspondence, things like that, that would be of interest to mueller . At this juncture, mr. Mueller has had full access to my em l emails, therefore, hes well aware that theres no evidence whatsoever, not in the o possession of Kristin Davis or andrew miller, another associate of mine whos resisting a subpoena from mr. Mueller, or anyone else of collusion with the russians, collaboration with wikileaks or any other inappropriate act. In my view, in all honesty, this is a phishing expedition. Perhaps it is the payback for the fact that i broke the story yesterday on infowars that tony podesta has been that the Special Counsel has asked for immunity for him in the manafort investigation. Or the manafort prosecution. I know that has not yet been reported on cnn, but i reported it yesterday at infowars. I have multiple sources. Fox has also reported it. I believe it to be true. Perhaps this is payback for that. Sam nugburg, a former trump aide, onetime close associate of yours was asked by the Hollywood Reporter whats next for you . He said roger is going to be indicted, hes a critical piece for mueller. Obviously nunberg doesnt have inside knowledge into muellers thinking or his operations though he did talk to mueller. Do you think hes right . Do you think youll be indicted . Mr. Nunberg has no evidence wikileaks collaboration. Sam is a very smart guy. I think he has Substance Abuse problems and, frankly, i think responsible members of the media should be very, very careful when they take what he says at face value. Lastly, you told the New York Times in regards to Michael Cohen, quote, donald goes out of his way to treat him
like garbage. Now that we know cohen was recording at least some conversations with his client and also vowed to be loyal to his family and country, do you think Michael Cohen is out for revenge on the president . In all honesty, i have not had a chance to follow the developments of the day. I know that Michael Cohen wanted very badly to be in the president s president ial campaign. He was not. Hi wanted very badly to be in the president s white house. He was not. I honestly do not know what he knows and whether any of it is detrimental to the president. Im going to go by what mayor giuliani is and believe this is benign, but i have no special knowledge to the contrary. Roger stone, appreciate you being on. Thank you. Thank you very much. Its now day four since the Helsinki Summit ended. Senior u. S. Officials including the nations top Intelligence Officer are saying they dont have any idea or concrete idea of what was actually discussed between President Trump and Vladimir Putin. Russ russia says agreements were reached. The question is what agreements . All the requests for a transcript are redouxed, defied. Well get into that, next. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not an injection or a cream. Its a pill that treats psoriasis differently. With otezla, 75 clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,. With reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. And the otezla Prescribing Information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. Dont use if youre allergic to otezla. Otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. Tell your doctor if these occur. Otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. Tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. Some people taking otezla reported weight loss. Your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. Other side effects include Upper Respiratory Tract Infection and headache. Tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if youre pregnant or planning to be. Otezla. Show more of you. This is not a screensaver. Game. This is the destruction of a cancer cell by the bodys own immune system, thanks to medicine that didnt exist until now. And today can save your life. Doors. Four days we asked for a readout as they say in White House Press speak and got nothing, and no, the director of National Intelligence didnt know anything about that, either. I dont know what happened in that meeting. I think as time goes by, president has already mentioned some things that happened in that meeting, i think we will learn more, but that is the president s prerogative. If he had asked me how that ought to be conducted, i would have suggested a different way, but thats not my role. Thats not my job. So, it is what it is. Again, thats americas chief Intelligence Officer saying he doesnt know what was discussed between the two men. Interestingly, perhaps not surprisingly, russian officials continue to say they are delighted by what took place and say there are agreements reached between the two sides. The question, of course, is what agreements . Since were not getting answers from the white house, yes, weve asked, were going to have to go to moscow for answers because thats where we are now. Matthew chance is there. So, matthew, we still dont have
any readout from the white house, what are you hearing from russian officials . Well, to be fair, anderson, we havent had a readout, either, from the kremlin in terms of the sort of usual readout wed expect after a big, important summit like this. Just general characterization of the summit as being positive. Vladimir putin, the russian president , said that there had been useful agreements that had been made there. But having said that, there have been a number of sort of, you know, kind of revelations that have trickled through for various other russian officials, the Russian Defense ministry, for instance, has spoken about the two president s in helsinki discussing Security Arrangements internationally. Arms reduction treaties. Deals over syria. Things like that. The Russian Ambassador to the United States, he was briefly in moscow to attend a meeting here in the russian capital, said
that there have been concrete agreements on Eastern Ukraine. And local Media Reports have spoken about how Vladimir Putin, again, the russian president , has spoken to ambassadors about the possibility of holding a referendum in Eastern Ukraine to decide the future of that sort of wartorn region. And so, you know, thats the kind of, you know, revelation that weve had come to us via, bleakle from russian officials but no firm read yout of the kind wed expect. Its fascinating that Vladimir Putin made this offer about muellers team going to mosc moscow, and then russian intelligence agents coming here and being able to sb interview u. S. Fiofficials, interrogate u. Officials that the president , apparently, i assume in oneonone meetings and publicly talking about sounded like a great idea, sounded like really
interesting or something to really seriously be considered, when most russians out of hand said that would never that should never happen. And now the white house has walked that back saying, well, the president doesnt think its a good idea. It was i was in that press conference, and it was absolutely fascinating and horrifying, frankly, as we discussed earlier, to see the u. S. President in such a sort of, i suppose, submissive kind of role in that relationship. The expectation was, even amongst trumps critics, is that was that he was going to, you know, make a stand, at least, you know, kind of, you know, talk about all the areas of conflict between the United States and russia. But he didnt do that and he even submitted when it came to that suggestion that the United States basically give up several of its key figures for interrogation by russian
authorities. And i think the sense here in moscow is that, you know, may have gone well on the surface, but did it go too far . Is there a possibility of a backlash in the United States . The kind of backlash that were seeing already that could place a further strain on relations between moscow and washington . Interesting. So, you know, there are mixed feelings here in moscow, i think its fair to say. Matthew collapse, appreciate it. Thank you very much. A lot to discuss with former cia officer steve hall. David axelrod, obviously key aide to president obama. David, was there ever a time you remembered president Obama Meeting oneonone for more than two hours with somebody who is in an adversarial relationship with the United States and the public not having any information about what was said . All the meetings that he had that i know of were read out to the public. He had lengthy meetings with with people in foreign
governments. He had a lengthy meeting with putin in 2009 that was when putin was prime minister. Not when he was president. It was the regular practice of our administration and every administration to read these meetings out, but more importantly, anderson, it was certainly the practice of this administration to have people monitor these meetings, and to make sure that Key National Security advisers and cabinet members were advised after the meetings of what happened, and were instructive or involved in prepping the president before the meeting. So everything about this was unusual and troubling. Steve, in the absence of the white house providing an account of what happened or the state department, its really the russians are the only ones kind of doing the talking. Has the u. S. Lost the ability to control the narrative here . And how does that impact the relationship . It does, indeed, seem that
the russians now control the narrative, which is obviously never a good thing. Were getting dribs and drabs of information. I was just reading something that there was the possibility that there was a discussion where the russians were pushing the president on not allowing ukraine in georgia, any plan for nato ascension. You know, thats obviously a very serious policy issue. Not to mention all the issues with regard to syria and some very valid issues that need and complicated issues, such as, you know, ies and so forth. All of that stuff needs to be out there. Theres no reason really for it not to be out there. Experts need to take a look at it. Congress needs to take a look at it and it let the russians be the ones who do this is a recipe for disaster because, of course, they will spin it. They have no theres no open and free press in are russia, so theres no advantage to the United States for that. Its another situation where i think the United States is lost out of this particular summit. David, yesterday it was announced the white house extended the invite to putin. In terms of the politics of it especially in the fall, i dont know if its going to be before the midterm elections or after the midterm elections, if putin accepts the invitation before the midterm elections, and comes, does that create a huge problem for Congressional Republicans . I mean, wont they have to answer questions of whether they support the president s decision to host the man who yeah, im sure. Not only attacked america but continues to attack the countrys democracy according to the Intelligence Services . Im sure the news of thisgred enthusiasm in the republican cloakrooms on capitol hill, anderson. Look, this has been a terrible week. The Republican Party coalesced, at least the rank and file according to polls have largely coalesced behind the president. Independent voters have been deeply troubled by this. Obviously, democratic voters, and in many of these swing districts, this is an unhelpful issue. You see will hurt, for example, from texas, whos a former cia officer, has been very outspoken
on this. Hes in a very tough race in a swing district. Theres a reason beyond his professional sense of outrage or whatever he feels about this that hes speaking out. Its because it is a political liability for him. So, you know, its trumps habit to double down when he has a disaster, to be defiant about it. This invitation seems to be seems to be part of that pattern, but from a political standpoint, i have to believe that mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, and others are urging him to postpone any kind of meeting until after the election. Steve, do you i think i dont think it was you, i think it was ralph larson on the program a couple nights ago who said that he wouldnt be surprised if the russians had a recording or transcript of what went on in that meeting oneonone. Do you think thats possible . And if so, how would how would that have happened . Yeah, no, its absolutely possible, and something we would have agreed on. The russians certainly have
capability to do that, in a very private meeting like that, its childs play for the russians to get audio and video on this. It can be used for a number of different things. I guess for the u. S. , too, then. Its possible for the u. S. , but then, of course, you have to ask the question, the guy who makes the decision as to whether or not theres clandestine taping going on is the most senior guy in the room. On our side, donald trump, on their side, Vladimir Putin. In a meeting like this, it would seem to me it would be much to the benefit of Vladimir Putin to clandestinely record this stuff so he could later trot things out and shape the conversation, say, actually the president said this and heres the clip. So, you know, yeah, makes all sorts of sense that they would do that. They dont have to. They could keep it to themselves. But, yeah, its certainly possible and could be very useful for them in the future politically. I guess given that one of the reasons the president allegedly didnt want to have other people in the room is because he didnt want leaks. I guess since he doesnt trust the Intelligence Community, he wouldnt want the Intelligence Community bugging that room and having that tape for that very
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completely out of context. The twitter direct messages, by the way, most russian spies dont speak by twitter messages which are unencrypted. There are thousands of them between them. Twitter direct message about picking up toothpaste in america, direct messages of pictures of kids and dogs and everything else. They both had an affinity for Better American russian relations. That tcertainly he wasnwasnt purpose of the trip to the u. S. Heres the other thing the government says they have, they flagged several direct messages between her and the russian official, your client talks about going, quote, underground, going incognito and having to be quiet and careful. The government alleges the messages show her acting in a covert manner. To that, you say . Again, maria never said she was anyone other than who she was. She always said she was a russian. She said she worked with al
alexander to arrshin. Friends with him, assisting limb him in his endeavors. Any discussion of them underground or covert, versus conferences, or have more private dinners. Its interesting for someone w whos alleged to be a spy, from what i read from accounts of people at the university with her, she had a picture of Vladimir Putin on her phone and often spoke in defense of Vladimir Putin in class, which if she was trying to be incognito and be here as a spy, im not sure that it seems shed have a high profile in defense of Vladimir Putin. I think if i was a spy for Vladimir Putin, i would actually go the opposite way and kind of downplay my like of Vladimir Putin. I actually asked her about that today. I read about it, i think cnn, the story about the phone cover. Its a picture of Vladimir Putin shirtless on a horse. So, you can imagine, you know,
she had as a gag. Shes the russian student and everyone knew she was a russian student. So she had im saying it actually argues in your favor in this case which is, like, if shes trying to have a Cover Position exactly. It seems odd she would be publicly out there promoting Vladimir Putin positions in a classroom. She was head of a she was well known in russia before she even came here. Shes been getting publicity since shes been in the u. S. For well over a year. If she were a spy, her relationship with torshin was disclosed in articles online over a year ago. So according to the governments theory, her cover was born over a year ago and she didnt leave. Let me ask you, paul erickson, the man she had a relationship with, is he the u. S. Person number one named in the indictment . It seems like he is. Im not going to confirm nor deny that here. Okay. I think youre on the right track. Can you sigh exactly what her relationship with erickson was, was she using him to gain access to the nra, to republican elite . No, i mean, i think that they have a personal romantic relationship. And they have for about five years and they attended lots of events together over time. Was she using sex as a means to manipulate erickson . There was some indication there was one report she complained about being no. And i think its very unfortunate, the government kind of dropped those allegations without any evidence the other day in open court. I vehemently asked the government for any support for those allegations about trading sex for things because i frankly find it kind of offensive just because shes an attractive woman that thats the direction people go in. I havent seen any evidence of that and well, i think someone from the school said the men she hung out with seemed to be above 60 which sort of struck them as odd. But there were handwritten notes found in her apartment. In particular, one said how to respond to fsb offer of employment. How do you explain that . I believe those notes were found in another apartment of
person one. Right, in person ones handwriting. In person ones handwriting. I dont think its up for her to explain that. But i will say this. That as the fsb is offering full employment either to subject number one, who shes in a relationship with, or to her, thats certainly again raising questions. I think that anyone who is russian has to meet with the fsb when they go back and forth and frequently is asked at the airport what theyre doing in america, if they had any information for the fsb. What would happen if the fsb approached her Gun Rights Group or not group. I think those kind of things were discussed by her. But talking about employment, if the fsb is talking about full employment, thats of concern, no . Again, and if there were any evidence she was employed by the fsb, you know, but theres just theres just none. Have you ever represented erickson . No. And so bottom line, in terms of what your clients want, is it
a plea deal, a return to russia . Something else . My clients innocent of the charges. So what she wants to be is were going to establish that the government cannot prove the case here. The government has brought a case into the foreign registration act, which by the way, no one was ever prosecuted under. Essentially its a registration statute saying if youre going to do certain activities in the country, you have to register with the Attorney General of the United States. So theyre acknowledging that everything they did is legal under u. S. Law. I appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Lets check in with chris and see whats coming up on cuomo prime time. Its an interesting distinction legally between being innocent and the government not being able to prove a case. Usually lawyers avoid the word innocent because it means you know for a fact your client did absolutely nothing wrong. Usually theres an ethical hurdle that comes with that. Tonight bewere going to be takg
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