Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20171011 : comparem

Transcripts For CNNW Anderson Cooper 360 20171011

Throughout history, the one meal when we come together, break bread, share our day and connect as a family. [ bloop, clicking ] and connect, as a family. Just, uh one second voice guy. [ bloop ] huh . Hey . I paused it. Bam, family time. So how is everyone . Find your awesome with xfinity xfi and change the way you wifi. Good evening. We begin tonight with breaking news on the wildfires in the wine country and all across the state. At one point the fast moving flames were consuming the ekwif equivalent of a football field every three seconds. Cnns ryan young is on the fire. He joins us now. What have you been seeing around you on the ground . Reporter anderson, its just amazing. Whether you watch that video you get sort of an idea of what it was like. When you stand here it blows your mind. This was an entire neighborhood. In fact were standing right in front of a home. This garage is just whats left. We saw a file cabinet back there. Its the only thing we can make of the home. Its weird, the only thing that survived in the neighborhood are the trees. You look at this car, its stuck in the middle of the road. You can only hope the people made it out. Even the tires have totally disintegrated at this point. We were looking at the damage walking through, the idea of 15 people died. 183 people still missing. Weve been told by officials they dont believe all 183 people are dead. There have been some communication issues around this area because the fire was so intense it hit some of the towers. But if you think about 2,000 structures have been destroyed and 0 of the fire has been contained. This scene sort of repeats itself over and over again as we have been driving through the area. This looks like someone dropped a bomb in certain areas, anderson, as its been so powerful. As we look back at this direction, even as were talking right now, there is smouldering still going on. The firefighters told us this is an active fire theyre still fighting right now. As i understand it the police tonight are saying the area you are is still not safe, right . Reporter absolutely. As we walk back in this direction, anderson, youll notice people are kind of popping up everywhere. One of the things that Police Officers told us is not only is this an active fire situation because there are 17 fires active right now, they are so stretched thin they want us to know there are looters as well. And as we came into this area, they wanted us to know were on our own should anything happen because of that fact they are trying to case people out of here at the same time keep people safe. This is one of those situations when you stand here and realize how much has destroyed, you get the idea why everybodys so thin. Did you say theres zero percent containment at this point . Reporter thats what we were told. Some of these firefighters are going on their 16 17thhour shift. The winds have died down, this is given a chance for firefighters to get ahold of that. As we were coming in we saw the lights and sirens pushing to the front lines in certain areas. Again, we were told active situation, be very careful. Now to politics, the president doing what we reported last night. Taking another shot at senator bob corker. Chairman corker spoke out against the president on sunday talking with the New York Times, raising his concerns about the president s temperament, his judgment and possibilities unintentionally setting the stage for world war iii. He also said this, i dont know why the president tweets out things that are not true. You know he does it, everyone knows he does it, but he does. This morning the president said something in a tweet that was demonstratively false and attacked his height. The president tweeted, the failing at New York Times said little bob corker up by recording his conversation, was made to sound a fool and thats what im dealing with. Its hard to believe how recording the senator make him Say Something he didnt want to say. Keep in mind the president s tweet is not true in any fact. The only set up involving the times and the senator agreeing in advance to record the conversation. Here he is talking about it with the times john mortar. I know they record it and i hope you are too. Yeah, i am. So when the president tweeted this morning he was tweeting a falsehood. And when White House Press secretary Sarah Huckabeesanders was asked about the president s broader complaint, she said this. Look, senator corker is certainly entitled to his own opinion but hes not entitled to his own facts. Well, that goes for the president , too. By the way, senator corker told the times most of his colleagues agree with the assessment of trump. We invited each and every republican senator on the program tonight. None of them said yes. Invitation stands. Jonathan martin joining us. As you heard spoke with senator corker, hes also the cnn political director. Jonathan, do you have any idea what the president was talking about when he claims senator corker was setup by the times . I cant explain that. The senator not only knew he was being taped, he asked to be taped by me. And the reason he did that is because he wanted to make a point, he wanted to make news here. He very purposefully said what he said because he recognizes that this president responds to intervention via the media more than he does private conversations. And thats why senator corker spoke so forcefully and did so on the record with me in our taped phone conversation. And david, yet again you have the president of the United States mocking somebody for his height. We saw him on the campaign mocking someone for a disability, going after john mccain, all sorts of things. Also in the campaign, marco got the little marco as well. These nicknames he sees as a branding exercise, hoping to gain advantage. I dont know what it does to actually accomplish his goals. Anderson, what i think makes this scenario different than a back and forth and namecalling and corkers tweet versus trumps tweet is what you and jonathan were mentioning as well that corker wanted to speak and not just for himself, but clearly in talking to jonathan wanted to speak for the whole conference. Even if you read the transcript told jonathan, i know if you go and ask these other guys, these senators, theyre not going to come and say these same words. He was trying to provide the conscious of the senate in his mind knowing he was politically liberated to do so by not running again the way his colleagues are not. Given the actions by this president time and time again, to kind of just play this off is oh, this is yet another twitter war like a fight between Melania Trump and ivana trump yesterday, when you actually sit down and think about it im wondering when you have the conversation in that moment, just how stunning it is what senator corker is saying about the president of the United States risking world war iii, about him lying, not telling the truth in tweets repeatedly, that corker knew for a fact that every day the people of the white house are trying to contain the president from his own worst impulses. Its extraordinary. You just mentioned three of the moments when i was on the phone with the senator when i was typing and taking notes from the conversation. But i was really struck by what he said. Especially the world war iii part, because this is not just some freshman member of the congress who is looking to get some attention. This is position posed in congress been held by a number of influential people in history. And when i was listening to that conversation i kind of knew what i was hearing would stand for posterity and the charges he was making were very much premeditated. As you point out, he did want to speak out on behalf of a lot of his colleagues who are restained about what they can and cannot say. Him sort of blowing the whistle on what a lot of folks in washington say what no one wants to put on the record, certainly not senators, and that is the fact that while he is the president of the United States, President Trump in a lot of ways is controlled or minded by a codary of retired generals and senior officials who basically have to protect him from himself and in effect guard the country and the world from the elected president of the United States. Those are his words. Thats what hes saying, and thats an extraordinary charge to make. And its putting on the record a kind of tenmonth long conversation thats been taking place in washington about who actually is running the country. And david, no senators would come on tonight to discuss it. Nor has anyone come out publicly to echo the sentiments at all of what corker said. Nobody has sort of said let me associate myself with my colleagues remarks. I fully agree with what hes saying. This notion that bob corker gave voice to something that is said in private, thats why its so damning is because these are conversations that have been happening in private. And one senator now gives it voice in public, but youre not youre not going to find his colleagues running to sort of let me add my voice to that. They dont want to do that, although i will tell you there are several republicans ive spoken with in the last couple of days that are quite glad the conversation is in the open now about sounding the alarm about what corker said last week, which is people separating the country from chaos, this notion of controlling the president. Coming up next, the president challenges his secretary of state to compare iqs. The White House Press secretary calls it a joke. Weve got new reporting of whether it was a joke. And later all the accusers coming forward in the stories of sexual avances and even Sexual Harassment, telling of their encounter with Harvey Weinstein. And also late reaction from president obama and ms. Obama and a look otthe legal jeopardy wi weinstein my face. You know who likes to be in control . This guy. Check it out selfappendectomy oh, thats really attached. Thats why i rent from national. 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Now a poke at a member at his own cabinet. Hes been steaming at fact that Rex Tillerson called him a moron. President trump saying quote, i think its fake news but if he did that, i guess were going to have to compare iq tests, and can tell you whos going to win. Again, he wasnt questioning the secretary of states intelligence. He made a joke. Maybe you guys should get a sense of humor and try it sometime. Put aside for a second how many times the president and his staff have tried to use the joking excuse to get out of hotwater. The source telling jim, he spouted off about the iq test because he was mad, and the whole ike insult, its one of the president s favorite gotos. And went to the ivy league school, the Warten School of finance. I know are i have an iq better than all of them. I know that. I guarantee you my iq much higher than theres. Guvmer perry, he made nasty statements about me and i challenged his iq. Lets do ike tests. Some of the pundits, you know the guys believe me im much smarter than them. I want to match my iq with some of those guys, all of them. Hes joking, right . So randall, when the president said this, was he joking . I listened to the tape just before coming on here to get the nuance. I laughed when he said it, he did not laugh. Sole i guess its a judgment call only President Trump knows. When i first asked secretary tillerson, he paused and thought about his answer and gave a more vague answer. I asked him about the moron comment and he immediately went into its fake news but maybe we have to take an iq test, then he paused and laughed and said i would win it. He doesnt laugh very much, but just because he didnt laugh doesnt mean its not a joke. The amount of times he talks about going to an ivy league school, hes smart, he has a high iq. Dont forget about the hand sips. Sis a guy who wants to measure everything. And he thinks somehow it can be measured and everyone will accept the results and he will always prove to be the brightest, the biggest. Every smart person i know or rich person i know does not talk about how rich they are or how smart they are. Weve been doing the forbes 500 list for 34 years. The very first list trump was on it. Trump is worth 5 million on two. Of the 600 people on the list, weve said it very many years the person who cares most about his net worth is donald trump. This does keep us from talking about his charge that President Trump wiretapped trump tower. We dont talk about the fact he said millions of Illegal Immigrants voted in the election when they didnt. So there is this haze of distraction that hes throwing up. But i think randall got at the real man. This is definitely who donald trump is. A bragging, exaggerating, off on tangents but certain hes right about everything. One of the things senator corker was saying ubhim is hes playing the mad man and tillersons thats not true. Hes basically reacting in the moment. Im not sure hes consciously thinking oh, i will challenge the iq of my secretary of state and that will create a diversion. I actually asked him whether or not when he under cut north korea whether he was neutering his chief diplomat, and he said, no, no i was strengthsing. Theres no way to negotiate if the person youre negotiating with thinks you cannot deliver what you say. And he said as much in our interview, hes decided in a day he strengthen himself and theres no doubt he weakened tillerson. He wrote he views governing the way he does business as an endless string of deals to be won or loss both at the negotiating table and in the court of public opinion. Thats exactly right. I think randall hit a home run with this article. He got the president at his trumpiest. This is fellow who thinks that americas interests are the same as his interests and whatever he says is the policy must certainly be right. Now, in the longterm the United States needs to deal with technology issues, needs to deal with energy issues. We see in the front page of the the New York Times today that china is leaping ahead of us in the production of electric cars. These are profound longterm issues but we have a person focused on the next moment, not on the next week. What i was struck with most in the article the idea that contin continuity, administrations change but policy evolves. The Previous Administration honors the deals. Aga again, it doesnt mean you dont tweak them, but there is a consistency. And he doesnt believe that. On obamacare, hes acting he has an obligation until we have Something Else to try and make obamacare work. He said whatever happens it will be obamas fault. It will never be our fault. This administration is new deal literally for donald trump where he thinks he gets to revise everything. Fascinating interview. Coming up next exclusive new allegations against hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein as audio recording of him pressuring a woman surfaces. And Gwyneth Paltro and Angelina Jolie breaking their silence. You nervous . Directv has been rated 1 in Customer Satisfaction over cable for 17 years running. But some people still like cable. Just like some people like banging their head on a low ceiling. Drinking spoiled milk. Camping in poison ivy. Getting a papercut. And having their arm trapped in a vending machine. But for everyone else, theres directv. For 1 rated Customer Satisfaction over cable switch to directv. Call 1800directv. According to feng shui, the bed should on it. Orth east. Youre trying everything to get pregnant. New oneaday couples pack gives you both nutritional support you may need. 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