And we experienced turbulence coming in and when we landed a pretty hard landing and the selfperceived back of the plane starts fish tails and you could feel the plane do things that wasnt straight on the run way like a normal landing would go. The plane continues to proceed down the runway in that way sorry im being moved on the tarmac right now. And then we came to a very, very, sort of quick and harsh halt there on the runway. And everyone is fine on the airplane. There are no injuries. Governor pence and his staff are fine. And there are a lot of rescue crews here. Im not sure if you are seeing the poll shoot. Yes we are. Reporter there appear to be police and fire rescue here. And there is significant damage to the run way here as well. It looks like you can see divots where the wheels of the plane
dug into the runway and damaged the runway. They are going to have to do reconstruction for this part of the runway. Everyone is fine but liz, how long from the moment you touched down and started to feel the tail of the aircraft moving oddly . How long did it last for until you came to a complete stop . Reporter it was probably 20 or 30 seconds. It wasnt that long. But it was long enough to feel that this is not a straight, smooth landing on the runway. And judging by what im seeing here on the runway, which is it looks like cement thats been torn up by the wheels of the plane, you can see that the wheels and the plane moved off the run what before we slammed to a halt. And just to be clear new york city injuries from anyone that you know of on the plane. Reporter correct. Yes. Absolutely no injuries and in fact Governor Pence immediately came back once it was fully stopped and made sure that everybody, including the press was okay. And he said that he saw mud on his window up at the front of the airplane. At that point we could definitely tell we were off the runway. We werent exactly sure in the back what we were seeing out the windows. And so he came back and said that he saw that we were you have to runway. So the plane itself to your understanding stopped off the side of a runway in grass or in mud. Yes. Exactly. The plane is off the runway, yes. Do you know how far off the runway it is . Let me look. Were still here. Were getting moved out of the area. If you got to leave you got to leave. Dont worry about it. The plane is in the grass. One of the wheels is fully in the grass. One of the wheels is completely in actually the entire plane is on the grass at the tarmac
the Reverse Thrust we probably used in excess. You know, Reverse Thrust is used on most planes but it appears to that they went into a skid situation that took them off the runway just looking at the pictures. Les this, may be a dumb question but having flown into laguardia throughout my life, there is water all around and in some it seems like at least to my memory in some of the landings you are flying over water in the last minute when the runway is right there, right . Reporter you are referring to landing in runway two to the southwest. You land on part of the bay. Rikers island is on the righthand side. Yeah. Reporter but that is hard for me to tell if that was the runway they were landing on. That is not really a factor. The surface beneath the wings
makes no real difference. The it is surface beneath the wheels that makes the difference, you know, in the cockpit we would be judging what type of situation that we have. We might have got breaking Action Reports. There were probably good breaking Action Reports why this happened. You know, at this point it is hard to say. It is possible it could have been a Mechanical Failure Anderson with a Reverse Thrust not being deployed appropriately and giving an asymmetrical thrust which would have forced it off the runway possibly. It is hard to say at this point. We dont need to speculate in that regard. Were certainly just glad everyone is okay. Were getting word donald trump has called Governor Pence and has expressed relief that everybody is going okay. Les, in a situation like this our producer was saying that looks like some of the runway is torn up. Again, may be a dumb question. But is that something wheels of an aircraft would actually do to a run way. Absolutely. It looks like they might have blown only tires, which could be a failure of the antiskid system, which is supposed to prevent that. But i think were seeing Governor Pence there right now. Yeah. Continue, sorry continue les. Reporter yeah its possible if you blew out some tires,arounds, you are basically on the wheel hubs that could tear up the concrete like that. But once the airplane goes into the grass, you know, it is a tough situation. And it really could tear up indefinitely. Governor pence thanking some of the firefighters outside of the aircraft. Our producer was saying seems to be fully off the grass the plane. And joined on the phone,
michaels, y miles. You know this airport well. How surprising is this to you . Reporter anderson, this is varsity flying. You Dont Go Into Laguardia in a 737 without being on your toes and in a driving rain you really wanted to make sure you get everything just right. Miles, im being told there is a ground stop now at laguardia for flights. So again, sorry, continue miles. Reporter as would be suspected in this case. Expected. That broken concrete you have been talking about anderson is engineered Material Arrester System which is installed at laguardia and o a few other airports that i i would put in the same varsity category. Midway being one o ever them. Short runways with fast aircraft coming in. And it is designed to break apart on the weight of the landing gear. And stops the aircraft from going any further. If it were not there in this case it is very likely this aircraft would be in the east river and that would be an entirely different situation. So it worked. And that is a good thing and that is a good thing for everybody on board there. How does that actually work . How does that kind of a runway work . Reporter basically it is a thin veneer of concrete. And it is just like going into, you know, quick sand, if you will. It is a break away concrete that collapses under the weight of the aircraft. And stops it. It is an aarrester system. And very useful in this case certainly prevented injuries and maybe saved some lives. O who knows. I want to bring in our safety analyst david soucie. And i think in some of those shots you can actually in the background see some of the broken up runway. The broken up concrete. David, again, i guess the obvious question is what do you
make of this . How surprised are you . Reporter very surprising as miles said this is a varsity runway. Something you just dont fly into if you dont know what you are doing. So obviously something went wrong to make him go through that. As miles said there is also a break away. What happens there is it is designed, kind of like foaming the runway. A way to slow down the aircraft. It is something they could have used in the Train Accidentes of late as well to slow it down as it goes forward. So it is a Safety Mechanism to say the Airplane Loses control in anyway, it stops the aircraft before it goes off into the runway, turns off the runway, turns over, rolls over, anything long that nature. And those were put in in designs in airports about 20 years ago in denver actually an aircraft had come off the runway and slid off and didnt stop and continued and rolled over and got into some houses alongside the runway. So some of that Safety Improvement as we see now actually is very effective. And we have people walking away without losing lives. Our producer liz landers is still with us. Shes actually she was on the flight. She is on the runway. I believe shes still on the runway. Liz do you know which runway you were flying into . Liz . Reporter i do not know that right now. I can try to figure that out for you guys. But just to give you an update, Governor Pence is now off the airplane and i can see him on the tarmac speaking with Law Enforcement officers. There is a lot of police and Fire Department presence here. I would say i see probably one two three four i see four Fire Department trucks and lots of other vehicles right now. And liz, were a also i know you cant tell with the cameras on. We are also looking at theGovernor Pence shaking hands. Thats actually recorded just minutes ago. Him shaking hands with firefighters after he got off the aircraft. Soliz, for those viewers just joining us. Could you describe what you felt . First there had been a delay so you knew it was bad weather coming in. But explain what you felt when you realized something as you started to land. So like young say we knew it was going to be in bad weather. We had been in iowa earlier today chain iampaigning. And so we came into laguardia. You could feel the turbulence. Low clouds. Couldnt see much out the windows. And as soon as we landed on the runway here, it was a pretty hard landing. And then you could feel the plane fishtailing which is where the governor and you
could feel the Plane Fish Tailing in the back and then probably after 20 or 30 seconds they slammed on the brakes of the airplane and we all sort of sat there in silence and were wondering what was going on. Member of the Secret Service came back and said that there was no structural damage to the airplane that but that we were off the runway. And at that point Governor Pence came back to make sure that everybody was okay. He just checked in with the press and said are you guys doing okay . He said there was mud on his window. That indicated to us that we had run off the runway. And as i sort of told you a minute ago, the plane is fully off the tarmac. And it is in the grass here. It looks like the tarmac and the concrete was pretty dug up and pretty badly damaged upon landing. And you said it felt like it was skidding from the rear of
the aircraft like the rear of the aircraft was kind of moving towards the front. It felt like the back of the airplane was fish tailing and didnt have as much control, i guess as the front of the airplane did. And you could tell it just was not a straight landing on a straight runway. Were also joined by our safety analyst david soucie. David, why would the rear of the aircraft move like that and not the front . Well because of the mass a whats happening as far as the slowing. If you had a flat tire in the front then the aircraft in the back is going to try to accelerate past it. Like a jack knifing of a truck. Also the front landing clear could have collapsed driving it down and giving you the feeling that the back is trying to out run the front. Were also joined by mary
schialvo for the department of transportation. Mary, what happens now in a case like this . Reporter well it falls on the purview of the National Transportation safety board. And they have a lot of experience with accidents like this. Everything from there was one in little rock American Airlines and what happens when the wheels, when they do not get good traction with the runway when there is a layer of water on it it is very much like hydroplaning with your car. There is a scrubbing action between the wheels and runway and sometimes it leaves characteristic marks so the ntsb will investigate. Fortunately known was hurt bthe will have to come to the airport and look at it before they move the plane. Ao i will slow everything down in new york. And laguardia has had this very thing happen before with i think southwest not long ago and other aircraft. Soo they are accustomed to doing these investigations at laguardia. So it would an ntsb investigation. And were getting a good look
at the aircraft. Weve seen some of that runway. Really does look like its been torn up. Yes it does anderson. It is most likely one ray 13. That signifies the compass heading. Meaning they were headed off to the southeast. The wind was coming out of that direction, pretty gusty. And what you are looking at is the aircraft on the cusp of flushing bay. And if it werent for those arresters the break away material there is a good clans that aircraft would be there. One thing that would be interesting to understand here is if the trust reversers were working. That sense of the engine sort of operating in reverse. And that is essentially a mechanical device that turns the thrust in the opposite direction to slow the aircraft down. Were they using the brakes or
just the Thrust Reversers or if the Thrust Reversers were deployed they work completely symmetrically which is important in all this. David soucie, our safety analyst. And planes take off and lane in rain seems like all the time. Why would tonight be different . Is it because the temperature was low . Well kit. It can actually get into a situation where it create this is ice barrier. But it is more about hydroplaning than it is ice anderson. Miles had said. I was looking at the photographs about the thrust reversal deployment. It appears as though the right Thrust Reverser is still diploid which is uncharacteristic so it could be possibly an unparalleled Thrust Reverse which could put planes off. In chicago i experienced that once before in an accident i did where one of the Thrust Reversers comes out and Bufferibufferin Burns out a break. But the brakes are all the
option you have when it starts to pull off one side. So that can be complicated when you have water on the runway. Because it comes a hydroplane. And your brakes arent nearly as effective if that water is lifting your tires up off of the runway. And liz, liz landers, our producer who was on board the aircraft. Is Governor Pence still there . Looked like we had a camera in a car. I wonder if thafrs him leaving. Reporter yes thats right. We are now leaving the airport right now. The governor is going to his hotel. I spoke with his press secretary. He said that the fundraiser he was supposed to be having in new york tonight has been called off, understandably so and hell be going to his hotel, probably to relax and sort of unwind with his family there tonight. Tomorrow Everything Else is on schedule. The governor will be be going to events in pennsylvania and later
in the afternoon in North Carolina. This has got to be a really kind of tricky situation for the Secret Service. If they are on the aircraft realizing something is going wrong with the aircraft. Obviously their job is to protect to protect the Vice President , to protect his family to protect the nominee. But i assume they they are strapped in as well. They cant get up either. Absolutely. As soon as we landed. Like i said the plain came to a really kind of short halt there. And the Secret Service immediately popped out of their seats once the airplane had come to a complete stop. Im sure they could tell that something had gone wrong with the landing so they popped up and were checking on the governor and then they came back. It looks like woucht the secret Service Agents spoke with the pilot. Because one of the agents came back and said there is no structural damage. And there is a rescue team on
the way. So at that point we knew we had come off the runway and that this would not be your regular deplaning that we do. And liz, just in terms of getting off the aircraft, was a chute deployed . Or did they bring stairs . They brought stairs. They were able to bring stairs to the back of the airplane. We deplaned after the Secret Service. The Secret Service got off the plane first in the back and then the press gathered our gear and belongs and scrambled off the back of the plane. And then the governor and his staff came off after that. Liz, it is a little hard to tell from the picture. Is the bay in front of the plane . Or is it the highway . We see lights but i cant tell if there is a body of water in front of those lights. Reporter i was not able to see whether we were on water there or not. Miles, based on where you think this was, can you tell . Reporter well it is hard to see. I see what you are saying about the traffic but i think there might be a body of water in between. As you well know with laguardia, it is kind of there is water kind of all around it. And most likely that is the end of runway onethree. Which would put it towards flushing bay, sort of at the southeast corner of the airport. And pretty much any runway you go into there you are facing water at the end. And that is why that material is installed there. This is not a lot of Overrun Space there. You know, you go to a place like dallas or atlanta there is a lot of buffer zones between the runway and traffic or whatever. In this case, laguardia is you know, it is basically a stationary aircraft carrier. It is sitting there on the water and there is not a lot of i over run spasmce. And that is there is this material so crucial in this case to keep the aircraft from getting in the water and preventing a devastating situation. How long would they keep an Airport Ground Stop going for . And the ground stop because of specifically what happened with this aircraft . There are other runways, do they just need to check all the runways . Check all the conditions . Reporter im sorry i didnt hear the very first part of the question. The question is how long would the arptd have a ground stop . And is is the reason simply to investigate what happened with this aircraft or to check all runways and conditions . Two fold. Th