Died. That and new revelations from his fathers online life. Mayor, crook, and convict ray nagin. He now learns how long hell serve his time in prison. We begin tonight with the breaking news. President obama in texas. The state with the longest southern border addressing the biggest problem there in years. The flood of unaccompanied kids into this country. Kids mainly from honduras, guatemala, el salvador, driven out by violence, lured away by human smugglers with empty promises, arriving by the 100s in the United States every day. Tonight in austin, texas, after an airport meeting that almost did not happen because of politics, the president met with Texas Governor rick perry. He called the meeting constructive. Says he is interested in solving the problems, not in photo opes. He expressed plenty of frustration, however, at the politics surrounding this, lawmakers who he believes fairly or not have been putting politics first. We also had a clear warning for anyone thinking of sending their kids north. While we intend to do the right thing by these children, their parents need to know that this is an incredibly dangerous situation. And it is unlikely that their children will be able to stay. And ive asked parents across Central America not to put their children in harms way in this fashion. Right now there are more Border Patrol agents and surveillance resource on the ground than at any time in our history. And we deport almost 400,000 migrants each year. But as soon as it became clear that this years migration to the border was different than in past years, i directed fema to coordinate our response at the border, members of my cabinet, my staff have made multiple trips to facility theres. And were also addressing the root of the problem. I sent Vice President biden and secretary kerry and secretary johnson to meet with Central American leaders, as well as working with our International Partners to go after smugglers who are putting their kids lives at risk. The challenge is, is congress prepared to act to put the resources in place to get this done . Another way of putting it, and i said this directly to the governor is are folks more interested in politics or are they more interested in solving the problem . If theyre interested in solving the problem, then this can be solved. If the preference is for politics, then it wont be solved. Thats not all he said, nor all that has been said about what he said, covering it all for us tonight, Michelle Kosinski at the white house and chief Congressional Correspondent dana bash. The president had pretty strong words. We just heard some for congress, specifically, house republicans. Right. He also said its time to rediscover negotiation and compromise. And its not really compromising when you wont give on certain topics. And the president even threw out a compromise of his own. He said governor rick perry and others are asking for National Guard troops immediately to be stationed at the border and help in the process of helping these children. And the president hasnt done that yet. He okay, well, coy do that if you guys will agree to pass this supplemental request for nearly 4 billion, anderson. Its interesting, though. The president talked about a lot of his officials visiting the border many times. The president himself not visiting the border. Thats drawn a lot of attention. Many in his own party were calling for him to go down there. He was asked about it during the press conference. I want to play his response. This isnt theater. This is a problem. Im not interested in photo ops. Im interested in solving a problem. I mean, you could say, though, its not just a photo op that could have made a strong statement on the border. Right. This has been a weird situation from almost whatever angle you look at it. Its almost gotten to the point that now you think, well, if the president does go down to the border, after all this daily pressure from republicans and even some democrats, then it looks like he is just bowing to the pressure. It might also be according to some analysts, maybe he doesnt want to look like this as big a problem as it is. If he calls that a photo op and theater, well, when he goes to visit victims of a tornado, or a mudslide, is he saying that thats just a photo op and just heater . So the white house is aware that it doesnt look good even to many democrats. But are they going to go down there . We dont know at this point. Dana, to the point of Immigration Reform and the supplemental bill which the president was pushing today, partisan politics are a very real issue obviously in washington. The president addressed that as well today. I want to play that. I think its fair to say that these days in washington, everybody is all of the sudden concerned about everything falling victim to the partisan politics. You know, if i sponsored a bill declaring apple pie american, it might fall victim to partisan politics. I get that. There is partisan politics, dana, being played on both sides around this issue. I mean republicans say look, what about repealing the law or changing the law that was passed in 2008 that is permitting the special treatment of kids not from mexico, but kids from other parts of Central America for democrats, thats no go for a lot of reasons. Thats exactly right. On that i think too, to be fair, thats probably more of a substantive difference than political difference. But of course, anderson, nobody in this town could say with a straight face that there arent politics involved in this. In general when you talk about immigration and right now when you look at the calendar, we are july of 2014 a Midterm Election year and an election where republicans are very much focused on their base anymore. Republican who has run over the past seven or eight years knows that their base really doesnt want them to do anything but talk very loudly about securing the border. So of course, he is right. If apple pie as american were attached to border security, he might have a very chance. Dana, with the crisis unfolding, bringing the lack of Immigration Reform back to the forefront, do you think Congress Might have more of an appetite to pass legislation . Congressman kantor losing, many thought Immigration Reform was dead. Could this crisis resurrect it . Or is that a nogo . Before this election of 2014, no go. Its just not going to happen. And let me tell you why. When the president talks about the politics here, he is right to really far extent in this sense. There are a number of republicans who want to do Immigration Reform, but agree tactically that the speaker should not do it now because, again, this is an election, a Midterm Election where they want to fire up their base, and this would simply divide them. Instead they said lets wait until after this election and focus on a very electorate, which is the National Republican party. The question now whether this has gone so calcified if even thats going to happen before the end of the president s turn. Dan narcotics appreciate it. Michelle kosinski as well. Stay with us, dan. That were going to come back to you shortly. Were certainly hearing a lot from the president and others tonight. Loud impatience, significantly complicating not just his efforts, but any efforts from either party to figure out what to do. Take todays meeting. Until he changed his mind late today, Texas Governor rick perry didnt even want to be caught on camera out on the tarmac shaking the president s hand. Didnt want to do what Republican Chris Christie did or what Republican Arizona governor did jan brewer and then republican governor charlie crist. They took heat from their party, and the climate has gotten even more partisan, even more harsher since then which may explain recent remarks from governor perry that are raising eyebrows. In addition to being factually unfounded, theyre pure partisan red meat. Theyre also not entirely in character for the governor who also runs a state full of immigrants, legal and otherwise. Listen to the governor at a primary debate a couple years ago talking about educating undocumented immigrants. But if you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than theyve been brought there by no fault of their own, i dont think you have a heart. We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. Well, he quickly recanted that, by the way. Even so, the rick perry of 2011 never went as far as rick perry has gone these days on immigration or the obama administration. Here is what he said last month about the current crisis. You either have an incredibly inept administration or theyre in on this somehow or another. I hate to be conspiratorial. How do you move that many people from Central America across mexico and then into the United States without their being a fairly coordinated effort . Thats basically the classic im not saying anything. Im just saying strategy. Keeping them honest, though, the governor doesnt offer up any fact to back up his coordinated effort claim. Earlier that day, though, he did, however, make this factual claim. We have record high numbers of other than mexicans being apprehended at the border. These are people coming from states like syria that have substantial connections back to terrorist regimes and operations. Were seeing historic high numbers of these individuals being apprehended. Wow. So extraordinary claims that require extraordinary evidence, right . Well, we called the Governors Office. They couldnt even provide us ordinary evidence for that one. In fact that. Didnt provide anything at all. The nonpartisan Fact Checkers of politic fact gave it the rating of pants on fire. The Governors Office referred reporters to a spokesperson for the state department of public safety. He also could offer no specifics. While its true the number of nonmexicans detained at the boarder have soared, those are tens of thousands of Central Americans. Last year they detained two nigeri nigerians, three pakistanis, one egyptian, and no syrians. Governor perry, though, he is not the only texas lawmaker making these kind of claims. Talked to a retired fbi agent who said that one of the things they were looking at were terrorist cells overseas who had figured out how to game our system. And it appeared they would have young women who became pregnant would get them into the United States to have a baby. They wouldnt even have to pay anything for the baby. And then they would return back where they could be raised and coddled as future terrorists. And then one day 20, 30 years down the road that. Could be sent in to help destroy our way of life, because they figured out how stupid we are being in this country. Thats Louie Gohmert back in june of 2010 on the house floor, talking about terror babies. Congressman gohmert had absolutely no facts to back that up because there are no facts to back it up. Not then and not two months later, when he came on the program. Youre going to keep me honest . You tell the world that youve got an fbi statement. You bring on a retired fbi former supervisor, and he says we were not aware of any credible report that this was going on . I brought it to the attention of america for this reason. It was im a former judge. I know it was here say coming from a day. Scher brought to it my attention on an airplane, having flown together. And she brought that to my attention. Thats why i was talking to the retired fbi agent about it. And so having talked to him, no, i didnt talk to them, because the point is when we did the research, we found the whole existed. What research . Can you tell us about the research . Youre attacking the messenger, anderson, youre better than this. You used to be good. You used to find there was a problem and you would go after it. I used to be good. By the way, he has never talked about this again, nor has anyone ever offered any evidence of this. And the fbi says it never happened. But he talked about it on the house floor. Anyway, governor perry we should say is no Louie Gohmert. We should add there are many ways to criticize the president s handling of immigration and the immigration mess that do not involve terror babies or syrian sleepers or president ial plots to unleash a human flood that so far only seems to be damaging this administration. Now joining us jorge ramos, also back with us chief congressional superintendent dana bash and lets bring in senior Political Correspondent gergen. Is that what is driving much of this . I talked to a lot of people close to governor perry. They insist its not what is driving him, this whole focus. Because it is a very real crisis in his state. And he is the sitting governor. However, it is a happy political event. That sounds horrible to say and crass. But lets just this is the reality. It may be beneficial is a better way to say it. Because remember, and you played it, in 2012, the last time he ran, he really hurt himself with the Republican Base when he said that those who dont support instate tuition for the children of Illegal Immigrants dont have a heart that was absolutely the thing those close to me that hurt him the most with Republican Base voters. So this gives him an opportunity to get right with the Republican Base and to hit their chief opponent, president obama. Jorge, how do you think this is being seen by hispanic voters, this crisis in particular . I really cant believe that were basing our immigration policy on mass deportations. I thought that was resolved when mitt romney suggested deportation and lost the election. Now im hearing from president obama and governor perry and some republicans agreeing on mass deportations. When were talking about these children, i think we have to talk about a humanitarian crisis. And we have to treat these children as children. We have to treat them as if they are our own children. Finally, i think president barack obama said that most likely these children will be deported. Well, the facts are different. If you talk about the 24,000 children that came to this country last year, the majority of them are staying here for a very simple reason. One or two of their parents are still here. Jorge, though, there are plenty of viewers who are going to be hearing that and say look, wont that encourage even more, another wave of kids to come . More and more children to keep coming . Yeah, its true, absolutely. But the fact is that theyve been talking about what is pushing them away from el salvador, guatemala and honduras. And we know, and weve known for decades, its nothing new, that it has to do with poverty, it has to do with unemployment, it has to do with gangs that hasnt changed, anderson. That hasnt changed in decades. What is new is there is a new law in 2008. And what is new is the perception that if you come here and that if children can cross the border, that they wont be deported. David, certainly the president of the United States agreeing with what jorge is saying. He is tossing this to congress saying pass the supplemental, that way change will happen. He is. And the president very carefully, very lowkey Statement Today in which he treated this never mentioned the word emergency or crisis, is trying to take the heat out of the story i think in some ways. He clearly does not want to have mass deportation and wants to put the blame on congress. And i agree with jorge. Listen, the children are central to what we now do. But the fact is the reason we have this massive number of children arriving and weve got a humanitarian crisis is because they do think its a permissive policy. And to invite more parents to send their children 13, 12, 10yearold kids unaccompanied on a 2,000 mile journey, a harrowing 2,000 mile journey, 45 days in which they can get raped, molested, they may die, it seems to me is not in the best interests of the children. What we ought to be doing is treat the ones who have gotten here with as much care and compassion as we can. Maybe we need to find homes for them in some places. But weve got to work with people on the ground back in these three countries which are the three most violent countries in the world. So that they can live peacefully in their own countries. David, the fact that the president go ahead, jorge. Yeah, im sorry, anderson. I completely agree with you, david. But the fact is it is very risky, of course, for them to come here. But they know. Its a dry feet, wet feet policy we have now with Central American children. They know that. And if you are in Central America, if your family is make 5,000 a year, or if a gang member is threatening you to kill you or your family if you dont give them a thousand dollars, if you dont join the gangs, and then you have the reward of coming to the United States, youre going to be coming. Again, its a tragedy. But the fact is that this is happening simply because in washington, no one is doing absolutely nothing about Immigration Reform. These are the consequences. We have to pay for those consequences. And thats what were seeing right now at the border. But one thing is, i will add to, that jorge, you talked about the 2008 law. That is being hotly, hotly debated right now on capitol hill. And there is really no clear end in sight to that. Because you have some people, mostly democrats, who dont want to change that law for th