they have to loosen some of the rules. we do know there is a family hour at 8:00. if your kids are up past 9:00, it is not about what your kids are watching on tv, it is about you being a good parent and putting the kids to bed. >> you guys ever watch -- >> 6:00 to 8:00 you have profanity, frontal nudity, is that okay? >> kate, kate, hang on, guys. hold on. remember our talk about everybody talking. kate, have you ever traveled to other places, to other countries? i see things and hear things i would never see and hear in america television and it is no big deal. >> we don't want to be like every other country. >> why not? >> america is -- >> hang on. let her finish. >> we should be able to sit there with our children during primetime and be able to watch a television show without worrying about whether a woman -- a naked woman is going to -- >> jenny, here's the thing.