there is a diplomatic effort under way and it is around the minsk agreement. there is pressure on ukraine from the kremlin to agree to talk to the separatist leaders in the donbas area in the east of ukraine, the pro-russian separatist leaders. so where are we on that? i think take half a step back. yesterday we saw president volodymyr zelensky in munich saying that he is open to talking directly with president putin. he's been saying that for some time and president putin hasn't been taking him up on that offer. president putin on friday said that there would be no military deescalation around ukraine until president zelensky talked with those pro-russian separatist leaders in the east of the country, but what is happening on that front, in the east of ukraine the separatist leaders are calling for a civilian evacuation, it is chaotic, it is playing out on russian tv, it is playing out in such a way that it could be used as a manipulation over public