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testify. cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jennifer rogers is joining me now. hi jennifer. so how do you expect trump's appeal to play out? i know you've said that the arguments over executive privilege that trump has been making trying to prevent. you know, his former aides from testifying have been quite weak. that's right. i'm ra, there's direct supreme court president right on point usb nixon in a criminal investigations if the government can prove a demonstrated need for testimony that will overcome executive privilege, so on the merits, he's going to lose. this again is just one of the delay tactics that trump has used so often. and what about mike? pence i mean, he's been ordered to testify about the conversations , at least, you know, in the run up to january 6th as opposed to that day, he says, he's got nothing to hide, and he's still considering whether or not he he'll appeal if you were his attorney, what would you be weighing right now? so it's really interesting because this

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