be due to legalized marijuana. and what movies hollywood makes. hello, meditation antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". here is more on "consider this". . >> there's to doubt the suspects have some ideology along the lines of militia and white soup rem sifts. >> they are at the clive and bundy rancher outrage. they threw the couple out because they said the ideals were too radical. pakistan's airport has reopened after a 5-hour attack. >> 29 were killed. >> the pakistani taliban say the attack is revenge for a strike that killed their leader. >> former straight-hillary clinton begins her book tour. >> she lay down the ground work for a white house run. >> stay tuned. >> when i know, you'll know. >> we begip with the investigation -- begin with the investigation into the murder of two police officers and an innocent bystander on sunday by a husband and wife who spent time at clive bundy's ranch who spent time at a standoff. the two ambushed the officers as they sat to lunch, fatally shooting them at point blank range, taking guns and ammunition. a suspect shouted "the revolution has begun", they entered a wal-mart, executing a man that tried to stop them. as police moved in, the wife shot her husband and killed herself. at a press conference on monday the officials said the suspect left a swas sticka and a don't tread on me. they believe they acted alone. >> we don't necessarily believe they are white soup rem sifts or associated with the nazi movement but yes equate law enforcement and fascism with nazis. >> joining us from montgomery, alabama, director of the law center monitoring extremist activity across the states. good to have you with us. police believe they acted alone. you are not so sure. >> no, i think they acted alone. i don't think there's evidence that they are part of a larger group or plot. they are very much part and parcel of the patriot movement, the militia movement. all the hundreds of people that went to the clive and bundy ranch to face down authorities and point weapons at them. it's an obvious looking at postings on facebook, the talk about fascist police, about liberty and freeing us from the oppressive government, the idea that the government is taking our gun, that the deposit is spraying chem trails on the rest of us, poisoning us. they were part of the movement but not of a larger group and not part of a larger plot. >> as we said, we believe they went to clive and bundy's ranch in april. jarrod miller said he did. neighbours said he bragged about the fact that he had gone there. we - bundy says that he did not know miller and knows nothing about the attack. you wrote that the standoff and the bowing out of the federal government is seen as a huge victory by the patriot movement. do you think that relates to these attacks in los angeles? could that have inspired these guys. >> yes, i think it could have. obviously we don't know, we may never know. what happened at the bundy ranch, essentially the bureau of land management and police putting guns away, turning around and walking away, and letting the cattle be freed was seen as a victory by the patriot movement. for many they may have seen this was the successful opening battle in a war, and to the extent that people in the movement saw the stand off that way, it may be that the couple, the millers, believe that the war had begun, there had been a successful initial opening battle and now was the time to take it to the man to kill people. >> the patriot movements and the extreme racist groups in the u.s. seemingly have been quiet over the past few years, how concerned are you that we'll see an increase in activity? >> two things - the patriot movement is not racist. we are not talking about the plan or neo-nazi groups. i don't think there's anything to suggest that the millers were racists. it's clear they threw a swas sticka on the body of an explain officer. but what they clearly were saying is the police are fascists, the police are nazis. you mentioned the need that it's been quiet. i would disagree. since president obama appeared on the national political seen in the fall of 2008. there has been a resurgence of militia and hate groups. with the resurgence, there's come a resurgence of domestic non--ize lambic terrorism. we are living through a period, like the wave of the first movement in the mid 1990s in terms of criminal violence. i think this is one more instance at that. >> going back to the tim thi mcvay days. we have seen a shooting spree in kansas, a spoiled attack on a courthouse in gormia. do you think we are seeing a worsening pattern? >> i think it's pretty bad out there, we'll see if it gets worse. it's been bad for four or five years. there's a case that few in the united states know about, which was the end of last week, a man who essentially was a very, very hard-line gun rights activist in canada, a country which has restrictive gun control laws murdered three police officers in new brunswick. similar kind of rhetoric to what we hear coming out of the militia movement about by god, you are not going to take our guns, the only application of the free people is well armed, and that sort of thing. >> because of the needed focus on islamic terrorism, have we lost site of paying attention to the groups? >> yes, i think we have to some extent. that is not to diminish a threat from radical jihadists, domestic and foreign. i think the department of homeland security lass tended to emphasise a little too much of the jihadist threat at the expense of a real and vibrant domestic movement. >> appreciate you joining us, mark. thank you. >> thanks for having me. turning to smoke that was rising from pakistan's largest airport after it opened after a bloody attack the day before. >> a 5-hour battle at the airport on sunday involving 10 pakistani terrorists claimed at least 30 lies. the gunmen game in two groups of five and were mostly contained to a terminal used for cargo and private flights where the assault began. three explosions were heard, apparently from attackers detonating suicide vests. peace talks resumed in february, but fell apart recently following a split within the taliban and a fresh round of air strikes. for hor meditation joined in new york by richard barrett, the president of a group that provide security and services, and chief of counterterrorism for mi6 and u.n. coordinator for al qaeda and taliban issues. richard, good to have you on the show. >> the pakistan taliban which claimed responsibility has been through a split. there was an masoo group. they were opposed to what was called un-islamic practices by the rest of the taliban. what do we know about the group that staged this attack on the airport. >> this group seems to be the main group of the pakistan taliban. you are right, there has been a split and an argument between their methods. you know, the debate is a bit silly. you are attacking in public places. the whole thing is un-islamic from start to finish. >> killing minutes. >> there's a load of corruption. they are more criminal enterprises than anything else, these groups. >> they arrive there with security forces, airport security force, uniforms on. clearly it's a well-planned operation. they showed all sorts of weapons, suicide belts, grenades and weapons. they were found by pakistani security forces. they brought backpacks filled with dried fruit and water. it seems that they may have been preparing for a major attack like we saw in mumbai a few years ago, and in other institutions in mumbai. >> it's interesting you mentioned mumbai, that was a well-planned attack and they were prepared to go on for some days. the attackers appeared sophisticated in the positioning of the siege and the planning. it's significant that that's the first attack we a seen. you remember the one killed by a u.s. drone strike. >> this is in retaliation for that. >> yes, so they are showing "i can do good things, complicated attacks." he's trying to gain credibility. >> a spokesman for the group said that is what this was about, showing that they had the power to do this thing and could do it again. >> indeed. the government backed out of peace talks because they've been attacking soldiers and minutes, noncompete ents. here is him saying "what do you want to do, show more of this stuff or get back?" the interior minister said the country was a conflict zone and admitted the threat was everywhere. >> i don't think it's that bad. karachi is full of taliban, it's almost ungovernable. >> it's the biggest city in pakistan. >> by far and the most important commercially as well. in punjab there were problems. lahore, some of the other big cities are not so badly affected. it's more in the tribal areas along the afghan border. what about the relationship with the afghan taliban. >> the afghan taliban said the fight is in afghanistan. it's against americans not against them. they have a close relationship with them. >> with the i.s.i. and intelligence services. >> it's a murky relationship. >> that's the problem, it's incredibly murky was to what they are between the governments and the terrorists. >> it's difficult to sort out who is who and who is supporting what. one of the things that one can say is they claim to be under muller omar, they claim to obey him, but they seem to be not exercising his authority, or if he is, they are not obeying him. >> he spoke out after the patrice bergeron release. he was -- bowe berghdahl. what do you think this means? >> we should distinguish between afghan taliban and others. afghan taliban are making it clear they are not going accept a peace deal. whether they'll attack polling stations with the elections. the pakistan taliban is determined to make life difficult for the pakistan deposit because they think it's a good idea and they are vying for control of the group that you mentioned earlier. >> in afghanistan we saw an assassination attempt on the man likely to be the next president of afghanistan. good to see you. thank you. now to other story around the world. >> we begin in sao paulo, brazil. a transportation strike and clashes threatened the opening game of soccer's world cup. now in a surprise move the transportation union decided to end its strike temporarily. the union will meet on wednesday, the day before the tournament kicks off to decide whether to continue the strike. it would be disastrous for the opening day as the sub way is the main means of transportation to the stadium. next we head to northern spain where on sunday basket separatists organised a massive human chain stretching 75 miles between durango and the basque country calling for a referendum on independence from spain. protests have been peaceful since 2011 when eta declared an end to violent actions against the spanish government. and in paris where love takes a toll on the local architecture. a footbridge over the river seine has become a tourist attraction where couples attach a lock to the brim and low a key into the seen. the locks have gotten so heavy they caused a piece of the raying to collapse, giving greedens to locals who argued the locks are not only an eyesore, but a risk to the bridge. that is some of what is happening around the world. coming up, hillary clinton pivots to the right of the president she worked for. clues about a 2016 run in her book tour. a huge spike in children trying to cross the border illegally without their parents. what that means for hundreds of thousands of kids and the u.s. what do you think? join the conversation: a testing time for two likely 2016 presidential contenders got under way on monday. former secretary of state hillary clinton began a tour for her new book "hard choices", she show cased in an interview ransoming captive sergeant bowe bergdahl for five taliban leaders. >> if you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests, and values. i mean one of our values is we bring everybody home off the battlefield, the best we can. it doesn't matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation. >> meanwhile testimony from a top aid could boost new jersey's governor's chris christie by putting distance between him and the george washington bridge lane-closing scandal. i'm joined by a senior advisor for george pataki and a partner with public strategy firm mercury, and michael sure, political contributor. neither chris christie nor clinton said whether they'd run, no surprise there. mrs. clinton's book is called hard choices and she was talking to an audience in denver. she asked the awed yebs to join her in making -- audience to join her in making a run. is this a book title or early campaign people. >> an early campaign theme. for once i wish a politician would say what it is, this is a roll out of ideas, get some feedback. there's no question in anybody's mind. 315 million americans know she's running for president of the united states. if i had the numbers she had, i would run for president of the united states. talking about the numbers, the poll has her dominating the poll, seven out of 10 democrats favour her as a candidate. 12% backed viaeden, and -- vice president joe biden, and elizabeth warren has support in single digits. party unity sounds great, but could it be a liability? >> i don't see how it could be a liability. party unity is important. what you are seeing here is reason for the republicanest to either discredit the former secretary of state, talk about her health, bring up distracting issues, because they know this is an even playing field should hillary clinton not run. i agree with tom it's unquestionable that she'll run. she had a listening tour to new york. this is similar, going around the country with a book, and it's not a book about what i'm going to do, but what i did and what my experiences as secretary of state are like. other numbers to look at are the numbers against republicans that came out last week. hillary clinton is closest to chris christie. 4 points up, 45 to 41. no other perspective gets 40%. 45, 46, 47. they are discomforting numbers for republicans, which is why they don't want it to run. >> you were asked about benghazi and the select committee. hillary clinton at that point said something unusual. she said we'll see what they decide to do about whether she would testify or not. >> how they conduct themselves, whether or not this is one more travesty about the loss of four americans or whether this is in the best tradition of the congress, an effort to figure out what we can do better. >> was that an odd comment. seems if the select committee subpoenas her, she doesn't have much choice. >> no, she doesn't. i've been surprised - benghazi, which we talk about now, bowe bergdahl, you obviously follow one side or the other. they follow amongst political lines. my point on this is that if the republicans want to have a committee and another hearing on this, they need to do it in a tone and manner that seems to be - let's get the facts out there. i think a lot of us seem to be a little out there on what actually happened. you know was this the video, was it a terrorist attack. let's move forward and answer the questions and move on. we have a lot of problems and no one wants to diminish four death, and i don't want to hold president clinton responsible. let's just move forward. >> let's talk about the book, former defense secretary robert gates was attacked by critical comments about the president and vice president. critics say he should have waited until the president left office. there's some criticism of the president and other administration figures, some administration warts are revealed. shouldn't she face the same criticism that gates did, that she should have waited until president obama was out of office. >> i don't think so, that's an apparently opinion. i have not read secretary clinton's book. i know there's a difference when your name is robert gates. hillary clinton is coming at it from a different place, recounting her experience and laying out a recent resume, an update one for her candidacy. it's a little different. from what i understand. this is not that kind of a book. this is not provocative. this is dull. people liken it to henry kissinger's book. it's quite dull. >> it was called a newsless snore and the washington post - that she comes off as less than a visionary or a problem solver. seemingly from you will exercises. i haven't read the book. it seems like she's positioning herself to the right of the president. >> this is where michael and i will disagree. this is a presidency in trouble. we'll see that come november. michael and i will disagree with what will happen in november, but i think we have a president who is somewhere in the low 40s in approval rating. rasmussen had him in the low 50s. she'll want to create distance. she does not want to be the next after obama. that family has a long history on their own. she has 100% name recognition. she has property taxes to pay. >> i don't think money is a problem. that's another issue. michael, you want to put in a quick word. i want to get to chris christie. >> i disagree with tom to a degree. i think what you'll see with clinton is distancing from a president as sort vice presidents have, even george w. bush distanced himself from ronald reagan, it's what they do, to their detriment. it cost al gore, for sure. i think that's what's happening. >> on monday chris christie's chief of staff testified against a new jersey select committee, saying he had no prior knowledge of the lane closings. if he comes across as believable, does he create needed space for chris christie, because it removes him another step from the people that may have ordered the closures. >> this comes down to cit saying "i knew nothing about this." anything that comes up that verifies that goes to the narrative. he put himself in a position of find something that says i knew something about this. if that never comes about, he'll move forward, will have lived with months and months of this. the rga raised more money under his leadership than any other government. he's out there. he will keep moving forward - slower than he anticipated. >> he faces two grand juries and the select committee. what do you think about him moving forward? he is going to be on the tonight show with jimmy fulloon, sounds like a more cost chris christie, what do you think? >> i don't know, he was on leno. he does he is things, he's as confident as right. he is being truthful. chris christie's biggest liablery was a candidate is not the bridge. it is what happened beforehand. if chris christie caned get out of the primary because he is considered too moderate and a bully, his problem is in the primary, not the general election. i do think if he's telling the truth he marches forward. >> 2.5 years out and we are talking a lot about this. >> that said. never too early. let's go rangers. >> big game tonight. turning to what president obama called an urgent humanitarian crisis that seems to grow by leaps and grounds - undocumented, often unaccompanied children from mexico crossing the border by the thousands. more than 50,000 unaccompanied children have been caught trying to enter the u.s. by october. with the number rise k, president obama ordered homeland security to ensure that children are cared for in holding facilities across texas and arizona. there are serious concerns about the conditions of overwhelmed shelters, where there's limited care or plumbing where children are sleeping in cages. >> "borderland" locked at -- looked at parents and children making a choice to sneak into the u.s. >> do the gangs stop you going to school? >> really? joining us via skype is the mayor of nogales, arizona, a border city facing illegal immigration issues, it's the destination for hundreds of non-documented children moved from south temaze as part of a -- texas as part of a federal transport programme. what are you told by the federal government. there's a huge number of kids. they are caught, shipped to arizona, to nogales, phoenix, tuscon, what is going on? >> i visited today for the first time. i was aware of this since thursday, but i decided i wanted to wait until today, until everything was set up, and what i found out, it's not going to be a detention center, it will be a transition center. while i was there i noticed there was a wrote augusts, and a bus coming in and out. there's about 900 children there. ages from 2-3 years old to 17 years old. and what they are doing, they are finding out where they belong, whether they have relatives and from there after they go through the medical process that takes the whole process. it takes three or four days. as they go out more come in. >> and the conditions - it's a warehouse, it's housing human being, and we had seen the pictures of kids sleeping. i know that 2,000 mattresses have been shipped. what are the conditions like? >> well, yes, they had dividers with chain link, but the reason they need the dividers is they have to separate them by ages. there's little girls and little boys, and then teenagers, but they have everything they possibly need. it is a warehouse, because the border patrol in nogales used to be one of the biggest countries from the area. it's got heating, cooling. everything is fine. they brought in about six systems that are showers, and then one semi-truck that is attached to the building. they have two areas for cafeteria. they have medical staff there, an area that is checked out. >> it is getting under control. >> what do you say... >> yes. >>..governor jan brewer. she said this overload is a crisis. she said it was an unwarranted operation and a disturbing example of a deliberate failure to report border security policies and repair a broken immigration system, referring to the fact that kids are shipped from other places, from texas particularly, to arizona. >> it is concerning, of course. it's been a problem with congress, and a problem with washington in reference to immigration reform. i don't think when they are going to remove the political hats and sit down and decide what to do in the future. this is what we see coming and for us to probably sit down and discuss immigration reform. i don't understand. the thing is that a lot - children like this should not come across our borders by themselves. for what reason, i don't know exactly. i can't pinpoint. . >> as we saw the little boy talking in the "borderland" clip, crime is out of control. honduras has the highest homicide rate in the world. a lot of the kids are from central america, not mexico, are coming because of desperate conditions. the reality is the spending that the u.s. government is doing is 1.4 billion additionally to help. we are talking about food, housing, transportation, medical care, and lawyers. things that we have to do to take care of poor unaccompanied children. you would think the government would figure out a way for the government to stop this happening. >> that could happen. specially in the summers. temperatures can exceed 117 degrees. every year it happens. what we need to do here, is i noticed that there was a bank of telephones. on the bank of telephones in the area that i visited there was a three consellates, and for what i understand, questions asked of patrick bordeleau, is that the majority of children can identify a city where there's a parent and have the telephone numbers. we are contacting the parents. what is it. is it that they are following the parents or is it is it because of something happening at the point of origin, it's hard to understand. and they'll find out what is happening. i do understand the immigration reform and process. it's not what it's supposed to be, and federal officials need to talk about this. if this is what we perceive for the future. what haed could happen in arizona. >> a huge humanitarian crisis. thank you very much for joining us to talk about it. >> thank you very much. i just want to say that everything that we are doing as a city, it is humanitarian. there's a lot of contri bugss of cities. that we have been getting so we can help border patrol. the clothing is what we are doing. i was pleased with what i saw. i'm happy they took care of the children. they were in the process of transition. i hope they end up in another location. they are treated as well as they are here. >> thank you, best of luck. straight ahead - a side effect of legalized pot. could it cause an increase in other addictions. the world's oldest man passes away. the surprising reason the new yorker gave for his longevity. >> tom cruise is beaten by girl power at the box office. why it could mean a shift in what films get mead. -- get maid. >> is the recent surge in heroin use in the u.s. partially due to the spread of legalized marijuana in the united nations. groups are moving away from marijuana, a cash crop and turning to heroin. join us from the wood roe wilson center, and the author of "the drug war in mexico confronting a shared threat", david, good to see you. marijuana advocates argued league at pot that would harm the cartels would be right, marijuana dropped from $100 to about $25 over the last five years. the problem is this is having unintended consequences. >> yes, the cartels are hungry. they are looking for other sources of revenue, sending more of other products, particularly heroin to the united states. they are also doing things like kidnapping and extortion as we found in a report. those rates have gone up tremendously. it has a huge effect on ordinary people in mexico. >> they are diversifying. we have seen heroin use in the united states jump 80% between 2006, 2012. border authorities seized a record 21, 162 kilos of heroin, up from 367 in 2007. now, i understand the cartels are producing more, but what is driving us and the u.s. to use more heroin? >> well, part of it is supply is increasing. they are sending more across the border, and you are seeing rates, cost of heroin go down. why americans in supposedly the wonderful country in the world, why he turns to drugs is interesting. very complex to address here. we are in the midst of a major economic recession, downturn lasting for years. a lot of people out of work turning to meth, heroin. but i think the key here is that the - streets are being flooded by an unmitigated supply of heroin coming from mexico and they are pushing that product ever more. >> with that higher supply come the lower prices. >> is part of it that we see a growing prescription pain-killer addiction, and with the government making those pills harder to get, people are turning to heroin, because it's cheeper and easier to get. >> it's cheeper, more accessible, which helps to address the same pain sensors and pleasure sensors that people who are on prescription medicines like oxicodeine are accustomed to because, as you say, increased prescription of those drugs. >> as you mentioned meth is becoming part of what the cartels are doing. >> there are three drugs that can be produced in mexico, that can be home grown or made in mexico. marijuana, heroin and amphetamine. as you take one of those away, you take marijuana away. the cartels are turning to the other two with greater need to squeeze profits out of both sectors of the market. >> these are multibillion businesses. if they lose a chunk of the mun xri, some of the estimates going from 30 or 50%, estimates that they made 6 billion, but the legalization took 2.7 billion of that away. even with all the heroin and meth, will they recover what they lost from marijuana? >> probably not. i mean, marijuana, as you say, represents 25, 30% of their profits and if any business lost 25-30% of their market. it could drive them out of business. many of these organizations have high expenditures, high costs of doing business. they have to bribe people, pay for weapons, they have hemp men and supply networks. it can be what we see is the beginning of the end of some of the major drug trafficking cartels. one thing that is important to say, as the big cartels, bahaa calve j's and some others that have been prone down, it's the smaller rooemonnal organizations and cartels that are probably moving to the tech stores. >> as you said, they are diversifying to other illegal activities and are into league at activities so they are acquiring importance in mexico. it's a disaster up or down there. david, appreciate you joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> coming up, all hail the box office queen. why a female powered hit could change hollywood. the first women rule when it comes to longevity. research by scientists has us all hoping we can live further in the future. da data dive is next. >> i'm not sure why you didn't learn from your last incarceration >> some prisoners try to get it right >> i'm trying to go to school and get a nice job >> you're only 22, you can turn this around... >> and some just don't >> he actually told people in the halfway house, that he was amazed that they had given him parole >> the system with joe burlinger only on al jazeera america >> start with one issue ad guests on all sides of the debate. and a host willing to ask the tough questions and you'll get... the inside story ray suarez hosts inside story weekdays at 5pm et / 2pm pt only on al jazeera america today's data dive gets old. the world's oldest man, alexander mimic died at 111. he didn't ate much, never drank alcohol and worked out. scientists get a chaps to study him further, he donated his body for research. he credited his longevity to never having children. it doesn't square with findings from danish researchers finding early death was twice as high for men with no kids. he was not the oldest huge yin. 56 women were older. women generally live longer than men. 81 to 76 on average in america. the oldest person ever was a woman, who died in 1997 at age 122. the oldest man ever, duramon kimmora lived to 116 before dying last year. worldwide people are living dramatically longer lives. the world health organization found average life expectensy shot up six years to age 70. californians raised hope of a dramatic increase. they used genetic trickery to increase the longevity of a human worm from the equivalent of 400 to 500 years, blocking molecules exacting insulin and a cell's ability to sfopd molecules like glucose. researchers will move to see if that can work in mice and other ma'am axes and we -- mammals. and we brought awe story about blood trance fusions from foundationer mice, reversinglets ageing prospects. coming up, girl power in hollywood, a big box office smash in hollywood may change what comes next to a theatre near you. >> this. >> this, is what we do. >> al jazeera america. tom cruise was beaten by a girl at the weekend's box office or girs more accurately. tom cruise's "edge of tomorrow" took in there 29 million, 20 million short of a low-bumming et female centric film "the fault in our stars" with shailene woodley grossing $48 million. women were 82% of those that bought tickets. an imbalance compared to "twilight" films which saw 75% filled by women >> movie reel: we have a choice in this world about how to tell sad stories. on the one hand you can sugar coat it. it's not the truth. >> we are joined by two guests. good to have you both with us. talking about the truth and shailene woodley was talking about that, you wrote in a studio wants to make money they should cast a female lead to root for, we saw it with "twilight", "gravity", and "the heat", why aren't they doing it more. >> they are a bit slow to move on. "bridesmaids" was a huge hit. then the n summer "the heat." hopefully they'll catch on and do this. >> why haven't they caught on, ben. going back years wasn't "titanic" fuelled by success by teenage girls wanting to see the romance of leo dicaprio. >> the town gets things wrong all the time. they stumbled into the summer block buster. they are not geniuses, once they find something that works. it needs to work a couple of times before they repeat themselves they have started to see it. most of the audience for a movie like x-men, the fact is jennifer lawns is not an insignificant part and is in the movie to bring the young girls to the movies. mostly she should be in the movie because she's sensational. >> jennifer lawrence fan there. how about "edge of tomorrow," you had tom cruise and a female costar in emily blunt, and it had great reviews. why did the woman's side of it not work? >> i think part of what happened with "edge of tomorrow," and i'm no smarter than these guys, but that movie, which is terrific is loads of fun, a blast. it looked like a lot of other tom cruise movies. i think there was a bit of an eye roll fro the audience, and there was a surprise people liked it. i found myself saying "go see "edge of tomorrow"", and i'd say, "really, go see "edge of tomorrow," it's good." bear in mind overseas that movie crushed "the fault in our stars," making over 110 million. it's tom cruise's biggest chinese opening, words i never thought i would say. >> the knock on women centric films was that they didn't make much money. the reality is that's been proven wrong over and over. >> it's true. you look at "maleficent," which had a $70 million opening weekend last weekend, and it's because women want to see women on film. they are desperate to see people look like them, especially young women, which is why "the fault in our stars" does well. young women want to see stories told from their perspective and there are not many options. >> you wrote about the beck dale test, how many women are in films and how they talk to each other. that has shown that the movies do well. >> yes, the movies that there's a study last year showing that movies passing the beckdel test, which is two women talk about something other are than a man in the film did better at the box office. that gives women robust roles, promoting jennifer launches in the x-men movies to a bigger role than she would have, because she is a big star. and young women identify with her. sm . >> going back to the overseas thing is it male bottoms you want in the chairs? >> it works. the movies catering to young teenage boys - the bigger issue, my fault with "the fault in our stars," i didn't like it as much, but it's not geared to adults. it averaged 15,000 viewers - $15,000 per theatre. another movie, limited release, with a female director and star, jenny slate, a child and female director, limited release, 26,000 per theatre. there are grown out movies that will work with women as the main stars, and this seems an obvious thing. of course they will work. "maleficent," which was mentioned, i think that indicates that women will see a bad female driven movie as boys will see a bad male-driven movie. "maleficent" has done well. >> that's correct. 40% of the audience has been male. men will see the movie too. there has been a belief in hollywood that women will see men's film. "orange is the new black", came out on netflix. it's a big hilt. >> obviously men watch the shows. >> my wife watched it, i wasn't paying much attention. i love chick flicks, i'll admit it publicly. let's talk about chick-lit. young adult literature, is that a big part of this. "the fault in our stars" was a big best seller. twilight was to hunger games, is it books based on - movies based on books like that, is that a big part of the success. >> i love the unadult genre. >> i do. i'll admit to that one too. loved "hunger games", and "divergent." >> i know anecdote atly from talking to the 14-year-old girls who i know from the daughter of friends, and i read it. the fault in our stars, it's a huge drop off from the thursday night screenings and friday. enormous, cataclysmic drop off. what happened here was i'd been waiting and anticipating the release. then it comes out. i see it and it drops out. there's not great word of mouth. i don't know if i'll go back to see it again and again like "titanic", but there was tremendous anticipation driven by the book, and the next time that that happens, it'll have another big weekend and young girls will see the movie, and some young boys who are smart enough to know that that's where the yupping girls are. >> that's the thing, where the young girls go. >> thank you both for being with us. the father of a daughter going to midnight showings, i know what it's all about. good to have you with us. that's all for now. coming up on tuesday. the former chief who is turned. he will bring us a major announcement. his grandson joined us from underwater. trying to do something his famous grandson could do. join us on google+, twitter, facebook. see you next time. hi everyone, there is al jazeera a, i'm john siegenthaler. it is 11:00 p.m, 8:00 out west. this is the only life news at this hour. interview at his date at the bundy ranch in nevada. internal review from the va shows just how long veterans were waiting for medical care. deplorable conditions. the

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