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Transcripts For SFGTV Public 20240703

And after the San Francisco public utility founding. It is important we recognize the history in the tribal lands and acknowledge and honor the fact the oholone people have established a working part nership with the sfpuc and productive and flourishing members within the greater San Francisco bay area communities today. If we can have the first item. Item 3, approval of the minutes of april 23, present 24. Any corrections or comments on the minutes . Seeing none, move to approve. Lets open to the general public first, please. Remote callers, please raise your hand if you wish to comment on item 3. Do we have members of the public who wish to provide comment on this item . Seeing none in the room, lets go to Public Comment. Anymoderator, any callers with their hands raised . There are no callers in the queue. Thank you. Okay. Seeing no morecan i get a motion and second to approve the minutes of april 23 . Move to approve the minutes. Second. Motion and second. Can we have roll call, please . Paulson, aye. Rivera, aye. Ajami, aye. Stacey, aye. Four ayes. Item 4, general Public Comment. Can we open this up, please . Members of the public may address matters within the Commission Jurisdiction and not on the agenda. Remote callers raise your hand. Do we have members of the public present who wish to provide general Public Comment . Seeing none in the room moderator do we have callers with their hands raised . There is one caller with their hand raised. Okay. Caller, your line has been unmuted, you have two minutes. Hello commission. My name is jennifer. I am a marina residents. I have come before the commission multiple tifems to discuss the damage caused by the closure of the pier street outfall. There has been no response to inquiries about the outfall. Commissioner rivera never provided documentation he committed to provide regarding this closure a year ago and now im reading that the epa is suing the city for sewage incursion in our home. I have yet to hear anything from this Commission Regarding a action plan to correct this problem. It is your responsibility to address this as commissioners before we have another catastrophic event. Thank you. Jennifer. Thank you. Are there anymore folks in the queue . Commission secretary, there is one more caller in the queue. Okay. Caller, your line has been unmuted. You have two minutes. Hello commissioners. My name is ashley. I am a marina resident and i am here to represent marina residents that [indiscernible] i lived in the marina over 30 years and experience heavier storms and has never been impacted like on october 24. [difficulty hearing speaker due to audio quality] there are some people still living now with mold and cant afford the high cost of fixing homes. Our insurance did not cover damages. [indiscernible] in their home. Many lost cars but a [indiscernible] warn people to get to higher ground. All this could have been avoided. [indiscernible] the wirs worst hit region in the storm. We were told not to expect compensation, however what was alarming is people could have been electcuted. We were told it wasnt their responsible to inform people, it was pg e responsible. We were left alone and [indiscernible] it has been said initial communication with the [indiscernible] the residents are asking for a hearing and in agreement with [indiscernible] that suggested a hearing should be held. You can contact me through Supervisors Office stefani as i have worked for the office many many years for the community. I look forward to getting a date on the calendar and once again my name is [indiscernible] thank you very much. Thank you. Are there anymore folks in the queue . Commission secretary, there are no callers in the queue. Thank you. Public comment is hereby closed. Lets read item 5, please. Item 5, report of the general manager. Good afternoon commissioners. Good to be here today. I dont have any report this afternoon. Okay. So, do we need to open this up to general Public Comment if there was no comment, i dont believe so . Okay. Any comments by the commissioners . Okay. Lets go item 6, please. Read item 6, item 6, review Bond Oversight Committee annual report. Hello. Mr. Plezdant and commissioners, thank you for having me today. My name is rubin the chair of the revenue Bond Oversight Committee and work for the budget analyst office. On behalf of fellow Committee Members isent the annual report for the period of july 2022 through june 2023. I like to share three highlights from the reporting period. The first is the audit of six Revenue Bonds representing approximately 1 billion in expenditure. The report was published august 2023 shortly after the conclusion of the fiscal year. It presented two material findings with three recommendations to improve internal controls. The second is the ongoing monitoring of bond sells and debt plans. The third is visits we had to the ocean side Treatment Plant in november 2022 and hetch hetchy in 20 23. Working on bonds representing approximately 1 billion in expenditures and expect the report to be published by fall. This is the final audit of three audits conducted by hk global and accountancy corporation. We have two new Committee Members who recently toured the southeast Treatment Plant and helping to identify topics for future audits. Finally, i like to express the appreciation of the committee to staff and puc. The controllers office. The Clerks Office and City Attorneys Office for facilitating work of the committee. Specifically i like to call out and are thank [indiscernible] from puc. John carrel and victor young from board of supervisor clerk office. Hunter wong and [indiscernible] from Controller Office and mark blake and Catherine Ortega from City Attorney office for on pp going guidance and support. And now i am happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you for that report and that sounds like you have a very diligent committee working on this stuff. I guess just one question came up that i wouldnt have thought of sapt you mentioned it, during the tour of the southeast plant. You thought of a couple areas you might want to audit and what might that be . We dont have the specific topics at this time. There was a ongoing discussion of future topics to audit regarding the performance of certain facilities and infrastructurefunded by the bonds. We received some feedback from the City Attorney office that the scope that audit is a little outside of the scope of the committee as it has been formed under proposition p, and would have to be changed in some way, so there are certain things we can look at such as implementation of new technologies into the puc. There are a couplenew Committee Member is very interested in looking into that but they are getting up to speed. We have a meetd meeting this morning on the capital plans so i think we need more time to let those thoughts germinate into future topics of potential audits. Thank you for that insight. Commissioner stacey. I think i was going to ask something along the same lines. I understand that today is just a update and thank you for the work that the committee does and the update and that maybe some time later or in the next fiscal year as the committee sort of works through either recommendations or issues to audit, that you will also keep the commission apprised of what your decisions are and what your recommendations may be. Certainly. I know typically we present once a year after the annual report comes out. I believe you do receive our audit reports when they are published, but if you like if we are beginning a new audit topic, maybe before the audit work commences we could notify you of what that topic is and how we are planning to about that. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner ajami. Actually i wanted to ask the same thing. I would like to invite you to have a open relationship with us and i just also say, this is a very important effort. I personally very much appreciate it and you are our other set of eyes looking to our financial work and how the bonds money is spent and how is it working, so please do come back to us and if there is something that you see requires expansion of your oversight capacity and it is important for us to do it i think we are always happy to do it and want to make sure the money spent wisely and correctly and i know all the staff are working on, but it is important to have a set of eyes on these items. Certainly, well keep you apprised that. The committee is due to sunset of the end of this year. It has been extended a couple times in the past by the board of supervisors and i believe they can do that by resolution or ordinance. That needs to happen to us or through the board of supervisors. I just want to also the last thing, i do appreciateone thing we need to do more of is better tracking and data that can help us to understand the performance of investments. Are they being effective or not and i wholeheartedly agree who is the new member who wants to focus on technology and monitoring and reporting processes. I think that is super important as part of this. Thank you. Thank you. Certainly bring that back to committee. Thank you. Thank you through your diligence. Any other questions commissioners . If not lets go to Public Comment, please. Thank you very much. Remote callers, please raise your hand if you wish to provide any comment on item number 6. Do we have any members of the public present who would like to comment on this item . Seeing none moderator, any callers with hands raised . Commission secretary, there are no callers who wish to be recognized. Thank you. Public comment is over. So, the next item is the consent calendar, which is very robust. Commissioners, is there any questions or any of the items on a through h that you have any questions on or like to pull . Commissioners . Commissioner stacey. Thank you. I had a couple followup questions on item 7c and item 7g. Not germane to approval of those particular items, i wondered because the contract before us in 7c was in part to compensate for the loss of 4 electrical engineers at hetch hetchy and i checked and are mrs. Hanferred gave positive newss they replaced engineers with possibly a third in the future and part of the contract for 7c is also to help mentor and get those engineers up to speed, so i was pleased to hear that and glad that was folded into the contract amendment for 7c. Did you want to comment from anybody . I see margaret is on stanby, which i guess is zoom, unless she wandered down here. Not really. I just thought i would pass along that information. On 7g, i also had just followup questions about how our preapprenticeship traibing program was working and mrs. Haniford tolds me the folks through that Training Program work for contracts in the area on sfpuc contractors and hired by contractors. It sounds the Apprenticeship Training is going well and thought i would pass to the commission. Thanks to mrs. Han iford for providing that information. I also have a comment on 7g. This isi had a question about that also and theres a ongoing relationship between the apprenticeship programs in the up country and with the variety of unions which there is preApprenticeship Training and regular Apprenticeship Training getting people into real jobs and as you noted, recruitment into the trades and contractors that are working on these Major Projects out there as a real connection with the folks in the area through the Unified School District and that particular area so thanks for bringing that up and also wanted to note that. Okay. Anything else commissioner stacey . Okay. Thanks. Commissioner ajami. I wanted to talk to someone about 7d. I was just going through all the different amendment we had on this item and this is all most 50 percent increase from our original budget, and im just wondering where is thewhen is this going to end . Will we have a few more of these before this project is done . Reading through the documents i couldnt really identify a lot of you know, tangible reasons for all these the increases, beyond covid or pg e needs morea better you know, electrical transmission lines or Something Like that. I couldnt really add them up to the amount we added up to. Do we have somebody that could answer commissioner questions . Please, come to the mic, introduce yourself please. Are you benjamin . Where are we at . Good afternoon everyone. Brian senior project manager for this project. Yes, this project had several significant delays in cost and schedule. Project unfortunately began before covid and weathered the supply chain issues with the delivery of major infrastructure equipment for the electrical upgrades. The project is providingcogeneration engines that produce electricity and hot water for our process at the Wastewater Treatment facility. Utilizing bio gas produced at the Treatment Plant so it is a very beneficial project, a very significant investment for the puc. We see a lot of advantages to pursuing the project to completion. It faced delays for covid and currently our interface with pg e, we are facing new Infrastructure Protection requirements from pge, so we are trying to get an alignment with that agency and in order to do so we need this additional funding and time to integrate this equipment to protect our infrastructure and their electrical infrastructure so that when we do produce energy it is for onsite use. We are not pushing to the grid and they want to make sure that is the case and i think that kind of captures the intent of the infrastructure that is needed. So, we are not subject to net metering, so we cant put the electricity back to the grid . Right. They want to make sure we have something that prevents that or is it correct. Protective relays. We have plenty load at the Treatment Plant for wastewater process and you guys know we also have a recycled water facility that is ready to come online and can use power beneficially from the engines if we are able to get up and running. My question is, lets sort of think ahead and say it is 2030, or 2027 and we got all pg e assets and we have our own electric utility, public electric utility, wouldnt we want that load to feed into our grid because in a way, it is our electricity that would be used. Is the upgrade going to hender the process or is this a plug you put in and pull it off if we end up having our own utility . It is potentially we could reverse the infrastructure that we are installing if the puc favorably gets to run the utility in the future, but it also keep in mind the current demand on site is higher then what our generation capability is, so thats why i wonder why would they want you to do this . Is this certain load scenarios where our demand may vary and in a low condition and Gas Production and Energy Production could come out okay. So, but this is reversible . If we end up to get to the point that potentially using this facility as a battery that can run that generator at a different time that you have a lot of demand, we can do that . Okay. Going back to the earlier comment, that wasnt in here or i missed it. My other question is, the contractor on this project, is this like50 percent increase on the budget is quite significant and im wondering if there is like some form of performance basedwe had this conversation many times. Performance based delivery that we can put in place that people dont end up dragging these projects and increase the mount of the project over and over. Pg e is a new thing, but there are other things that happened. 50 percent is a lot of money. I agree. So, what can we do for this not to repeat itself . I think we are taking some steps with our partners in power enterprise with requirements from pg e ahead of time so from a planning stage or design stage we can implement their requirements earlier in the projects. Thats a very high price to pay for us to learn of these requirements during the construction phase and implementing those and thats really what is before you today is something that has come up during the construction phase. The covid outbreak, we can all admit that is pretty difficult to brace for that impact absolutely. But you know, because it is likeis this like infrastructure upgrade,b is that costing 7 million or other things in the project that needs attention that is requiring the 7 million . I wasnt hundred percent sure it is only electric upgrade, there was other things. There are elements related to our building modificationwe are modifying the building to suit the instillation so that is some cost captured in this, but morethe additional cost is the pg e aspect of the projectadditional pg e infrastructure aspect of the project that came to light during construction. Okay. I could appreciate if you or somebody from the power enterprise when you figure how to do these contracts a little differently come to us. We are happy to support Something Like that because we need to make sure who ever gets the contracts are accountable for delivery on time and on price and the best quality, rather then just keep ing these comes. Im sure it isnt a pleasant experience for you either to constantly come back to us so i want to make sure we avoid these kind of experiences in the longrun. Thank you. Thank you. Anymore questions item d . Okay. If not, we havethank you for coming to the mic. So, we had comments on c, d and g. Commissioners, any other questions on the consent calendar . Seeing not, let us go to Public Comment, please. Remote callers, please raise your hand if you wish to comment o

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