A pleasure thank you. Thank you all right so is this new push by the d h s to implement facial Recognition Technology and u. S. Citizens entering an exit in the country was it do you think was ultimately inevitable i mean were we always going to end up in this direction because thats just seems where our government wants to go. I think thats exactly right this department is for pres facial recognition checks for all people now traveling in and out of the United States including as you said u. S. Citizens not just foreigners not just visitors and this is new but as you said it probably was something theyve been wanting to do all along youve seen other Law Enforcement agencies already attempting to do it theres a 1000000000. 00 in fact set aside for the f. B. I. To build a data system and well talk about that in a 2nd but before this particular proposal citizens had been exempt from those mandatory checks no no no were not going to scan your face but now they want to scan your face homa security as you know responsible protecting our borders controlling immigration and they say this is needed and theyve already been using it more and more to catch visitors travelers who are leaving the country who have overstayed their visas and now they want to expand it to u. S. Citizens coming and or going so well see you know if this is going to get a lot of public support there are quite a few people that are concerned about the violation of civil rights but he wants to have facial recognition scanners at the 20 largest airports in the u. S. By 2021 so this is part of that plan to implement those scanners and how they want to implement this plan is to basically cast a scan blank if you will and scan all of our faces as we come and go catch the new potential criminals and to me this is one of those like classic triple critical belt effect things you know its like oh its just for you know people you know foreigners entering the country and foreign travelers oh now its just u. S. Citizens entering and exiting the country from overseas and soon you know at the rate they go itll be 0 if youre crossing state to state you know if youre traveling from wichita to minneapolis guess what. Where does the u. S. Citizens right to privacy now land when it comes to patient Recognition Technology and does our constitution protect those from a or have they moved past the constitution this point. I think that they want to debate the constitution is what it boils down to so in order to really answer your question i got to talk a little bit about how this all works and essentially they use what you talked about those bio metrics and they want to compare a fair picture that they like they say they scan your face if youre leaving or coming from an airport they want to compare it to a picture theyve already got on hand like a social media picture or government issued id a state drivers license a mug shot Something Like that and then they use specific memory measurements like the distance between your eyes the width of your nose your jaw and things you might not nestle want to know about yourself but they want to know because they take that they compare it to known picture and to find a possible match so are you who you say you are do you have the right documentation is there anything that they need to know about you its basically how social Media Companies tag people in photos so when its used scientifically with these standards they get a pretty good accuracy rate in 2001 police in tampa used it for the super bowl but guess what they found is that you know if they can control it to a photo that also previously existing photo that also had those same sort of controlled environmental measures if you will then then it works out pretty good but if theyre comparing it to an older photo that maybe didnt use those same metrics either not so sure and thats what they found in the super bowl in tampa they did find people that maybe had some outstanding warrants but they were petty criminals and they also had some mistaken identity so there are some issues with the technology which also plays into concerns about your constitution and its just one of many concerns when it comes to Civil Liberties as you mentioned the american Civil Liberties not at all happy about this. You know they they basically said that people have a right to privacy you know youre talking about the 4th amendment at that point if you walk into a public place you expect that you know you dont necessarily want the government knowing all of your business you have a right to privacy but there is some case law that says that faces are public that when youre out and about put in. Face out there its public however you know it goes back more theres also some concerns about the 1st amendment you know is this going to be violating peoples rights from that perspective as well so while the technology is not available for public use thats another reason that theyre saying this could potentially have some. Constitutional concern so again simply have a live Civil Liberties union saying the government has reneged on its promise not to target citizens they say that they are going back and violating their Constitutional Rights again talking about their privacy and and concerns again that its a violation of the 1st amendment you have a reasonable expectation of privacy but can you expect that to be applied. Especially if the if there is still some bugs in the technology thats being worked out exactly how would you bring up so many great point smally i want to ask as to what are the dangers we a little bit time with one of the dangers of using facial recognition and other biometrics beyond just the legal and constitutional implications you know and im thinking specifically of like how many times have we seen Government Agencies like the dia just get hacked mail and then suddenly about information becomes in hackers hands. Yes thats a very real concern and youve got everyone from the American Bar Association to the american Civil LibertiesUnion Raising these exact same questions and concerns you know its interesting when you had the freddie gray death in baltimore there was a lot of controversy around that roland because he was a black man who died in Police Custody and there were riots in the streets so police used facial techniques facial Recognition Technology during those riots and they managed to identify a number of people with outstanding warrants but would they have necessarily been arrested if they hadnt used that technology and you know Law Enforcement will come in and say its an effective tool were Getting Better with technology all the time were working out the bugs the f. B. I. Is getting a 1000000000 dollars to create a database so they can make these comparisons more accurately but the bottom line is theyre still getting your business its the same is like running a red light they take a picture of your tag you know sure you might have run the red light or come close to it but theres a theres this. Is that really breaking the law no one was there to see it not to say that people are its important to be safe its important to recognize potential terrorists or criminals that are coming or entering coming into or leaving our country but the average citizen being subjected to this sort of invasion of privacy or perhaps inconsistent technology that is what Civil Liberties folks are up in arms about they say this essentially reneging on the governments promise to you know uphold their Constitutional Rights and theyre just basically moving towards a police state and that theyre concerned exactly about going to say thank you thank you so much smaller boroughs will come when you are absolutely fantastic in the job that you do down there and keep up the great work and always a pleasure and we come back again. Thank you. All right hawk watchers i bet you cannot guess what is so important that the United States government just spent 22000000000 dollars on it take a guess student loan forgiveness. Public Housing Construction come on how about how some approved highway or high speed rail projects 22000000000. 00 so really the answer is no do all of the above instead we spent 22000000000. 00. To clear powered submarines yes 9 with an option to buy a temp for just the paltry price of 1800000000. 00. Money well spent here is our to the american side of the story. General dynamics has received a 22000000000. 00 contract from the u. S. 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All right youd be hard pressed to find a more controversial politically charged birthday gallow than the 70th anniversary celebration of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization or nato that is currently taking place in london this week as the New York Times reports the events for nato 70th birthday which was actually celebrated back on april 4th have been considerably toned down the times writes normally the 70th anniversary like the 50th would have been held in washington where the alliances founding treaty was signed with 3 days of pomp substance and white house dinners however the times goes on the right that given mr trump some predictability in his doubts about the Alliance Nato countries decided to have only a Foreign Ministers meeting in washington on the actual anniversary in april in fact talk watchers were around the campfires that this weeks london get together was really only added because apparently britain wanted to show it still mattered in transatlantic Security Affairs what with the whole brecks of affair. Talk about high school style entry going to Global Political level but where does nato stand today with the soviet union long gone the very reason nato was even created many historians and political experts around the world are starting to wonder if the world actually needs a nato including at times our own us President Donald Trump has wondered this joining me today to discuss nato as past present and future is Senior Analyst for the institute for public accuracy sam husseini and our producer producer in the bush of knowledge thank you both for coming on very a pleasure as always having you guys on. I want to kind of start off with this and safe i want to get your initial reactions when i when i bring up nato what is your 1st initial reaction was your 1st thought would you forgive nato pretext pretext its a pretext for intervention its an alliance that can be utilized to go after libya. Sort of go after syria it wasnt officially a nato operation but it was the u. S. Britain and france that on the false pretext of chemical weapons as documents are being silly chris. Only coming from the o. P. C. W. In the pretext of legalism in the world order when the un when the us doesnt want to or cant use the United Nations for an operation interesting interested in the bit about you 1st thought when the word middle bombs but. I was i was actually thinking on the lines of fig leaf because what sam just said is all true. I regard nato as more of a fig leaf of legitimacy for all of these naked imperialist projects that are basically nato is beings use anonymously as the so called International Community which Means Nothing and it is not defined at all but hey you get one or 2 or 3 or 28. 00 countries to follow the us lead and all of a sudden its the International Community nato it must be a legit nato something that should have ceased to exist 30 years ago while well if its stated goals were to actual goal of security and all of those allegedly good things i think looking at the Current SituationGoing Forward trump has really done an incredible con i think by portraying himself in his campaign as a populist and as an interventionist and so on his critique of nato which rang half true when he said it. That you know its obsolete and so on and so forth but the way that he framed it and the way that its panned out all done is juice it up because hes in effect saying to the other nato members pony up you got to spend more money buying more of our weapons to strengthen the alliance so that he can maintain this false brand of an isolationist and america 1st or while actually doing the bidding of the empire im never going to. He didnt dismantle the american empire i mean this is mu