Battle tank platoontoon. Hello and welcome to hidden files, im marsia hashimi, and very happy to bring you very special hidden files today, dealing with the situation in palestine and talking to someone who understands and knows the zionist regime very well. Im very happy to. Welcome to the program, sheikh talal abdul rahman sherim, a former prisoner in Israeli Regime prisons and hes also currently the head of the prisoners files for hamas. Thank you so much sheikh for being with us here on hidden files. Now, as a former prisoner who spent 18 years in israeli jails, how much do you value your freedom today and how hopeful . Are you about the liberation of the occupied palestinian territories . I seek refuge in allah from the curse of satan. May peace and in blessings of allah be upon the most honorable creation and the master of Prophet Muhammad and upon all his family. First of all, thank you for having me today to clarify issues regarding the prisoners file. Currently. Im in charge of this file. No one can speak about a prison better than the one who was jailed in it. According to poetry, no one knows the difficulty of something except those who are grappling with it. Freedom is priceless and must. If i want to maintain my dignity, i have to preserve this homeland. Hence, what we pursue, which is the liberation of palestine, is precious and the price that we pay is high. The palestinian detainee suffers two. Pains the first pain when his house is rated by the occupations army, the troops detonate the doors using bombs and then enter the home and begin ransat. Destroying everything inside, they terrify the children, women and fathers and mothers in plain sight of the prisoner who is handcuffed behind his back. Any person in that house who wants to protest or speak is hit in plain sight of the entire family. This is the first suffering that the detainee grapples with. The army ransacks the house and takes everything inside. If the troops find money, they steal it. They also steal the jewelry. The women, and they take any electronic devices, such as computers and phones, they confiscate everything, and if the prisoner has a car, they also sees it under the pretext that it was used in supporting terrorism, that prisoner is taken in plain side of the children who scream. This also constitutes suffering for the family, for the children, for the women, for the father and for the mother. Afterwards, the second suffering that the prisoner will endure. Begins when he is placed in the army troops vehicle and taken for interrogation, on the way to the interrogation, the detainee is physically and verbally assaulted, and here is blasphomous words, all of that is part of psychological torture that preceeds the interrogation. We will talk about the interrogation later in the interview, but i want to say that the interrogation is inhuman. Allah, the almighty said in the quran, indeed, we have dignified the children. So it doesnt make sense that another child of adam comes and breach your freedom and attack you and your ideas and religion and doctrine. Thats kind of insane, but as i have said, palestine is precious. Palestine is the heart of the arab and muslim world, and whatever sacrifices we make, they will remain slight compared to the goal of liberating palestine. Well, according to Human Rights Groups, more than 8,000 palestinians are currently lodged in israeli jails. Can you share more specific details about the total number of detainees, including those arrested since october the 7th . Unfortunately, there is false information, even among the Human Rights Groups, the red cross, etc. But as a person who is in charge of that fight. I will give you the accurate figures. Before october 7th, some 5,200 detainees were in present, including about 450 children and minors under the age of 18 and 35 women. The rest of the detainees were men, but after october 7th, the occupation authorities launched a crazy, Brutal Campaign against palestinians, arresting members of the legislative council, engineers, doctors. University students, general public, former prisoners, women and children. Now the number of palestinians held in israeli jails exceeds 12, that means 7,00 more palestinians have been detained since october 7th, thats kind of insane, because about 7,00 people were detained during just 4 months, between 700 and 8,00 people are also reported missing and their whereabouts are unknown, so were talking about huge number of detainees and prisoners. These were the actual figures of palestinian detainees held in israeli jails. We often come across horrifying stories of systematic torture inside israeli jails, inmates electrocuted, deprived the food and sleep, denied medical care, handcuffed and assaulted and even sexual abuse. Does the apartite regime use . I have been detained 10 times since the first interfada or uprising in 1987. I was detained and released 10 times, so i have lot of experience and have lot to say about what takes place during. The interrogations and about the horrifying stories heard from my fellow detainees. Regarding torture, i have said that the torture starts from the moment of arrest and continues until the end of the interrogation. During the interrogation, all inhuman techniques are used such as stripping the detaines of his clothes, with the interrogator mocking him or flirting with him as a kind of assault. But honestly, no Sexual Assault takes place, and havent. Heard something about that. The individual, however, could be threatened with Sexual Assault. The wives or sisters of some of the detainees were also detained and brought to the interrogation. There the men were threatened with subjecting their wives or sisters to sexual abuse if they refused to make a confession. This is a method to force the detainees to speak and make a confession. Some of the detinees break down and speak up as they want their wives, sisters or mothers to return home, and subsequently the interrogator gets what he wants. Sometimes it is the detainees who threaten the interrogators that if their wives or sisters were not for. Regarding the other techniques, i personally spent a week, seven days sitting a chair with my hands cuffed behind my back and my face covered. I spent seven days without sleep and without food during the. When i was asking for water, they were spilling water on the floor, so if you wanted to drink water, you have to drink the water spilled on the floor. These were among the interrogation techniques. There were other techniques that depended on the case were the method adopted by the interrogator. There was the good guy, bad guy technique where one interrogator speaks nicely, kindly. Asking the detainey whether he has a wife and children and speaks about releasing him and giving him money in order to encourage him to speak up. In return, there was an aggressive interrogator who was beating, insulting and spitting on the detainee, and doing everything you can imagine. Whats currently happening in israeli jails is harsher than what happened in the Us Detention Centers of abu ghraib and guantanamo bay. I can say that they all learned from the same source. How to torture and humiliate the people, there are many methods of torture in jails that require several interviews in order to address them, as each person and each charge has a certain method. Sometimes interrogations result in deaths. In israeli jails, more than five were killed due to torture. They were suffocated while being handcuffed. They put a piece of cloth on the mouth of the detaine. The detainee could be. And subsequently such techniques could result in his death. Some was in the tolkarm central prison, one of the people died during the interrogations. When i detainees who was sitting next to me during the interrogation was matured. He died due to torture. Then there are many methods of torture. Sometimes they even resort to israels supreme court. To obtain a license to torture ruling because the interrogator doesnt want to bear the responsibility of that severe torture and wants the court to be responsible instead if that detainee dies, so they obtain a decision from the court, and sit the detaneat down and shake him for a long period of time, and that subsequently inflicts a brain injury on him that leaves him either dead or mentally ill. Some people die because of that method of heinous. What people watch on tv is nothing compared to what actually happens. You saw how they stripped scores, hundreds and thousands of people of their clothes in front of cameras ommit freezing temperatures, let alone what happens behind closed doors. They strip people of their clothes and put them a wet floor and turn on air conditioners, switching back and forth from cooling to heating. During one to two days those detanees fall ill. Due to that method of torture. All these methods were aimed at pressing the detainie to forcibly admit to something. There are methods that are less heinous, but still heinous, such as imprisoning the individual a certain room with people portrayed as honorable palestinian detaines and fighters, but in fact they are spies who work for the Israeli Regime and deceive the detinie to obtain information from him. There are other soft techniques such as providing the detanie with the most Delicious Food. While the detanie is hungry, the interrogator brings Delicious Food and begins eating and asks the detinie if he wants to share him the food, saying, how are you, here you are, if the detainee ate, he will also be offered coffee, tea, cigarettes, etc. Thats another method to obtain confession from the weak people, but the real fighters refused eat. Drink anything, no matter how much i spoke about methods of torture, they still exceed the imagination, and what we currently see is just part of the suffering that palestinian detaines. Are grappling with in israeli jails, that was concerning the interrogation phase, in the next stage, and after a forced confession is written, the detainee could be sent from cells to another place that we call the big prison. There he sees his fellow detenees and begins a new life compatible with the prisons laws, which are set by the regimes authorities who plays each four or five people in a two by two or two by the meter room. There are also larger rooms such as 10x5 meter rooms in which 30 to 40 prisoners are placed, then the prisoners are diverse. That was what i had to say in brief about the issue of the torture of titanies. Mean its so unbelievable and uh so heartbreaking hearing what the prisoners go through because of the zinest regime, and recently a statement by the palestinian prisoners. Club said detainees are being denied medical care, not transferred to clinics or hospitals in case of medical emergency, is it because of their protests against the inhumane prison conditions, while were in a state of war, all the laws have changed, despite its ugliness, the occupation ultimately adheres to the law of the International Committee of the red cross, or some international and human rights bodies in order to appear democratic and civilized, but all the masks have fallen amid the ongoing war, theres no democracy, there are no human rights, no humanity in the Israeli Regimes dealings, so we see it innovating new torture techniques for the sake of deterrance, the regime used to insults to obtain forced conf. But now and admit the war, the regime aims at pressing the resistance, the regime uses the scenes of the arrest of women and children in order to press the resistance to submit to its demands, then they want to obtain what they fail to obtain through weapons and explosives and through murders and physical assaults, by pressuring the fighters when they witnessed the mistreatment of their women, children and people, that is means of pressure and a dirty war. Any war. Has its own means such as means of destruction, such as bombs and weapons of mass destruction, but the other means is to torture the civilians who are not involved in any operations in order to press the fighters to give up and raise the white flag. The more dirty method is that occupation deprives people from food and water. In northern ghaza we have famin in every sense of the word. There is no edible thing there. There are more than 60,00 pregnant women. Have nothing dozens of fetuses die in their mothers wombs eat, how will their fetuses be nourished . And those who are born alive, find no milk or drink. The babies have nothing eat and subsequently die. There are cases of child deaths due to malnourishment. In prisons we knew the meaning of hunger because we went on hunger strikes to restore our rights that the prisons authorities deprived us from, or to protest against punitive measures adopted. Against us, sometimes we didnt eat anything for a month or two months, so we felt pains including in the head and the knee, and grapple with weakness. After two to three weeks, the hunger striker becomes unable to stand up and walk, and instead remains in bed. Thus, hunger leaves people collapsed. The case now is not concerning number of hunger strikers in prisons, but concerning an entire nation that is suffering. More than 700 thousand people in gaza have no food. Israel also destroys medical facilities such as hospitals and medicines. There are no medicines in gaza. There are 10,00 Cancer Patients in gaza and they have no medication and are dying slowly. Regarding the normal cases, we have over 350,00 patients who dont even have access to panadol tablet for the headache. Little alone, those whose legs or hands have been amputated. How will they be treated . Many of. See their bodies decomposed, and when a decomposed part of their body is amputated, another part begins to decompose, so they cut the other part off after a week or so on. Someone told me that he buried his father in three phases, as his fathers hand and leg were cut off during a strike on their house, so the sun took them and buried them under the ground. Later that same family was targeted in another strike that amputated his fathers second leg, so the son took it and buried it in another. The father later died due to those injuries, so the son buried him for the third time. Can you imagine that a person can be buried in three phases . Where does that happen . All of that. Place ammit the worlds silence, mean the entire world, including human rights organizations and the united nations, all their meetings are fruitless, thats because israel is the spoiled son of the united states. Israel is the uss dirty tool in the region, so we fight for the sake of our dignity, and in order to restore our land, no matter the price that we pay, that will remain little comp to the restoration of our dignity and the preservation of our land and sanctities, god willing, we will move forward on the path until the end. Well, earlier this month, Human Rights Group cited shocking testimonies from recently free detainees, including the israeli military, inviting settlers to watch the gory torture of palestinians. On the other hand, we saw how israeli captives spoke high i spoke about part of those scenes, but there is another tragedy. These are settlers, settlers have violated the remaining part of the palestinian land, going beyond the part granted by the world, the world gave israel a state and gave palestine a state. But it was not established. Day by day, settlers steal the land. The disaster is that the settlers burn and rob the houses and attack the palestinians and do whatever they want, while the israeli army does not move a muscle. The army sees everything. What hurts more is that the army brings those settlers to the prisons to see how palestinian detaines are humiliated, or subsequently, they boost the moral of their people and settlers through. And we shouldnt even call them human beings. Some reports have pointed to alarming spike in socalled administrative detention since october 7. Mostly minors who were held without charges or without trial, how would you describe this travesty . The detention process is divided into several sections. I spoke about the first section, which is the interrogation and investigation into cases and operations carried out by palestinian fighters who strive to restore their land. But there is another kind of detentions in which no interrogations take place, and subsequently the detainees are not subjected to related. Torture, however, they experience another kind of suffering, as the detinie is in prison without charge or interrogation. Administrative detention is originally british. When britain was ruling palestine, it created administrative detentions. Later the Israeli Regime inherited that policy from the british. Under that policy, the detainee is imprisoned without a charge for six months, that could be extended for another six months and later for another year and so on. Some people were jailed for 18 to 20 years under the administrative detention policy, just because the regimes authorities suspected them without evidence or proof. Thats the height of crime. No other part of the world uses that policy. In fact, palestine is the sole occupied country in the world. All the countries have been liberated except palestine. In palestine, all inhumane laws are practiced. Many people were jail under the administrative. Detentions, and that policy was not used against just 5, 10, 20 or 100 people, before the alax of flood operation, there were over a thousand administrative detainees, but after israel launched a brutal arrest campaign, the number of administrative detainees exceeded 3,00, they include doctors, engineers, ordinary people and university students, even minors are jailed under the administrative detention policy. I also want to mention one of the ugliest practices that i just remembered, which is the unexplained death of people in prison. Since october 7th, 11 people, including administrative detanees, died under tortured. They were killed during just four months. Isnt that kind of insane . In return, you saw how palestinians in gaza treated the israeli captives. They treated them humanely and shared their food with them, according to the israeli captives testimonies. We saw a released woman carrying. Her dog, while people in gaza have no food, her dog was in a good condition, so the way israeli captives are treated differ from the way palestinians held in israeli jails are treated. In palestine, these. International prize, where does this never sayid die spirit come from . Sometimes the individual who loves the life, never submits to pressure and always looks for ways to develop himself and convey his message to the world, even from the prison. The big prison to which the detane is sent after being interrogated. Is a school where the detaining learns from the professors were also in prison. Imprisonment is an ordeal, but we turn it into a granting. Some people were illiterate when they entered prison,