Transcripts For MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240921 : compare

Transcripts For MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240921

That does it for us, you can catch rachel maddows new special From Russia With Love this friday, 9 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. You want to see it. But for now, im signing off. For all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. See you at The End of tomorrow. When Joe Biden first dropped out of the president ial race, the earliest signs we saw of enthusiasm for Kamala Harris, the first indications that she might change the fundamental dynamic of this race was this headline. Tens of thousands of black women mobilize to Support Kamala Harris. We were built for this moment. Black Women Rally around harris. When we vote, we make history. Black female Leaders Rally around Kamala Harris. The very same day that president biden announced he was withdrawing from the race, a group called win with black women held an Organizing Call that was quickly flooded with Support. 40,000 people logged on putting online meeting at capacity. While another 50,000 stream the event from other platforms. Now tonight, that same group is holding another major vent for Kamala Harris. This time with the help of one of her most powerful surrogates. Lets all choose Kamala Harris tonight, just before we got on the air, Tens Of Thousands of Kamala Harris Supporters logged onto an online rally with Oprah Winfrey and Kamala Harris including some very high profile Supporters. There is bryan Cranston Hello Chris rock is in the house ben stillar, jennifer lopez, tracy ellis ross. Julia roberts where are you . And miss Meryl Streep is in the House Vice President harris took questions from Audience Members and from Oprah Winfrey herself. It seems to us that something happened to you the moment Joe Biden, president biden steps aside and withdrew his candidacy that something dropped and you just steps into your power. Its time to step up. It is a great responsibility. And the incredible power of the people. Right . Im not the only leader in this. Were all leaders in this. This is so much bigger than me. The reason events like this are so important is because black voters and in particular, Black Women Voters are the key to a potential future Kamala Harris victory. Here is how win with black women put it when she was talk about how all of this came together. What we knew was that it was a moment in our country to show what black women have always done. I just think that it is an honor for All Of Us to be able to usher in this moment knowing that those who watered this mighty field are now allowing us to eat of the fruit. Black womens Support helped propel Joe Biden to the democratic nomination in 2020 and put him over the Finish Line in two Swing States including georgia. But for most of this year, there have been warning signs. The democratic Support from black voters was slipping. That all began to change when democrats switched their ticket. In the past few months, Kamala Harris has seen an outpouring of Support And Enthusiasm and organizing from the black community. One notable example has been Support from the the divine nine. Kamala harris herself is an alumna of a divine nine sorority. This year, americas oldest black sorority created its first ever political Action Committee to get involved in this years election. While others have devoted resources to get out the vote efforts including launches new adds in Swing States like pennsylvania. Ones that are targeting black voters. A child born today may have fewer rights than her mother. And her grandmother. Right now, those hard earned rights are being done. The right to vote, the right to choose. The right to learn our history. Now it is up to us. To stand up. Organize and use our power. Our right to vote. It only takes one person to change the world. Imagine what we can do together. You can see this enthusiasm in the polling. A new Howard University Poll black voters in Swing States finds Kamala Harris winning 82 of black voters. In arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada, North Carolina, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. Donald trump on the other hand gets only 12 of black voters. Harris numbers are close to Bidens Share of the black vote in those same Battleground States in the 2020 election suggesting that harris has gained back most of the ground lost among black voters since then. Most, but not all. While this new polling shows Vice President harris getting overwhelming Support from nearly every subgroup of black voters, there is one group proving harder to win over, young black men. More than one in five black men under the age of 50 Support Donald Trump for president. When you look specifically at black men under 50 without college degrees, Support for trump rises to more than one in four black men. So that may be why Kamala Harris told the National Association Of Black Journalists this week that she isnt taking black men and their votes for granted. I think it is very important to not operate from the assumption that black men are in anybodys pocket. Black men are like any other voting group. You got to earn their vote. So im working to earn the vote. Not assuming that im going to have it because i am black. But because the policies and the perspectives i have understands what we must do to recognize the needs of all communities. And i intend to be a president for all people. Joining me now is melissa murray, the cohost of black women to america. All with me is charles coleman, melissa and charles, its great to have two people who have been On The Road talking to voters about the exact topics we need to get into. Let me start with your reaction to this Oprah Event that i believe is still going or just wrapping up. I understand the inclination to do an event with oprah, if oprah called me, it wouldnt matter what it is about. I would do it with her. And there are a lot of stars in this event. But in terms of getting enthusiasm where she needs it, do you think oprah makes a difference . Im going to say i think it is a real missed opportunity if Oprah Winfrey doesnt tell every woman in that crowd to look under her seat because you get a democracy, you get a democracy. Missed opportunity. I dont know if she will play well with the demographic of young black men who are skeptical or trump curious but it makes clear that there is Support within the black community and that could be very important in translating to young black men like their mothers, their grandmothers. Maybe there is a reason for that. Can you expand on that, charles . That Family Dynamic . You will vote for Kamala Harris, young Black Man in my family. It does exist and that may be part of the problem because of the conversation and the way it is being had, there are a number of young black men i spoke to who expressed a sense of part of the issue that they are having is the way the people are talking to them about their vote. As opposed to having conversations with them, a lot of black men have expressed that folks are talking at them and castigating them for having questions, and reservations. So at The End of the day, you are still talking about men. And so there is a feeling in some respects of hold on, who are you talking to me like that . And you could see that in her response. When she said i dont take them for granted. Dont people they have to vote for me. Give me a reason why. And i think that part of the problem with democratic messaging for some people, i survived Donald Trump once. And now you are telling me that this is going to be worse, but at the same time, you told me the same thing about George Bush and Ronald Reagan and im still here. Im not saying its valid. Im not saying its valid but im saying if for example im a black male who is only seeing the Unemployment Rate in this country be surpassed by Native American men and no other demographic selling me a vision of this is not the best way to go. But i think one of the things we saw when we went around the country, it is not just black men who have questions. Young black women also have questions. Women of my age and older are solidly in that camp and were before the switch. We talked to women who said i will vote for Joe Bidens desiccated body if it comes to that. But these younger women, they have questioning. They talk about Police Brutality, what has the biden administration done with Police Brutality . The biden administration has done a lot around Police Brutality. Putting money into Policing And Police accountability. We dont really talk about that on the media. It continues to be generated independent of the biden administration. Here is another part of this. This came out clearly. And i think it is the same with black men. It occurred to me, this is the generation of people who grew up in schools after no child left behind. So they grew up in a system. They may not understand as clearly as other people, the president has very limited power over the 18,000 Police Departments in the country. Thats a Municipality And Locality issuement so part of this they want to see change, they are looking to the president and maybe that is not the person who is going to do this. So we have to think about the way in which our electorate is being educated. What it means downstream. This is not just about black men. We will see this further down the line with a lot of different groups. And when you account for the educational divide. I have to say, there is the case for, the positive case for voting for harris. And the case for voting for harris as an antidote to trump. And i have to wonder what you guys think of the rhetoric coming out of, directed at springfield, ohio. You can hear how she is framing it. We feel our our fellow citizens in springfield. The haitian families. The nonhaitian families. Everybody having to deal with this lie that has endangers the lives of haitian people and anybody who looks haitian. Everybody in america feels for that. The key part of that is everybody having to deal with this lie that has endangered the lies of haitian people and anybody who looks haitian. We had the local head of the naacp and she says how her grandchildren cannot go to school. They are not haitian, they are black. And i have to wonder one of the areas where Kamala Harris is the most ground on Donald Trump immigration and the economy. Talk about immigration for a second. When you hear rhetoric around immigration. When you hear how he is vilifying people of color in the united states. They could be haitians, they could just be black. Is that not a deterrent . Do you think that matters . In your experience . Is that the kind of stuff that will penetrate young black men and their sort of Information Bubble . The notion of Donald Trump as racist is not new or foreign to young black male voters. In respect to what we are seeing in springfield, it need to be framed more broadly and it needs to be framed under the umbrella of White Nationalism. The reason for that is racism is one lane. When you are talking about White Nationalism, now you invite xenophobia. To other people. The reason that becomes critical is it is not just a conversation that black people or haitian people or people with dark skin dominicans or cubans need to be worried about. It is a conversation that if you are not a wealthy straight white male, you can be otherred. Under this notion of White Nationalism because it is a virus that spreads. And it is a virus that Donald Trump has no problem unleashing along with Jd Vance or the entire electorate. So because of that, you have to expand the framing so that people understand this is not just a racial issue that extends to people who might appear to be haitian in some way. This is something that potentially has the ability to affect All Of Us who can be otherred. The white Nationalism Frame i think encompasses some of the issues harris is good on. The way in which this antiabortion rhetoric is also accompanied by replacement theory. There is a reason you want to stop women from terminating their pregnancy. And a reason you are fine with certain women like Amber Thurman bleeding out in parking lots. So the worst effects will be visited on poor women. Women of color. We are seeing that and it is also spreading to women who look like random suburban moms. Now it is becoming a real issue. But it has always been an issue for women of color and she made that very clear. Joining it to the broader message of White Nationalism makes both of these issues and its a real choice. There are also Neonazis Marching in springfield talking about the great replacement theory. So, the Data Points are there. It is just people may be connecting them to the candidates. Two people On The Road who know a lot more about this. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it. Coming up, Trump Lackey and sitting united States Senator Lindsey graham makes a secret trip to the State Of Nebraska to try to convince republicans the way the state does its electoral vote. And he refers to himself on a black nazi on a Porn Website called Nude Africa. And he has no plans of leaving the race. Thats next. Leaving the race. Thats next. Am. Then one day, she did. You were made to chase your passions. We were made to put them in a package. I want to turn to the issue of abortion. For 52 years, theyve been trying to get Roe V wade into the states. I did a great service in doing it. It took courage to do it. And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it. I have talked with women around our country. You want to talk about this is what people wanted. Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage. Being denied care in an Emergency Room because the Health Care providers are afraid they might go to jail. And shes bleeding out in a car in the parking lot. She didnt want that. Her husband didnt want that. A 12 or 13 year old survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term. They dont want that. I think the american people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make decisions about ones own body, should not be made by the government. Im Kamala Harris, and i approved this message. Do you need assistance . Goslings imprint on the first thing they see. Youre his mother now. Mama. He needs to swim. I can teach him the way my mom taught me, swim. [ screaming ] lets say youre deep in a show or a game or the game. On a train, at home, at work. Okay, maybe not at work. Point is at xfinity. Were constantly engineering new ways to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. Thats what i do. Is that Love Island . And i quote. I am a black nazi, slavery is not bad, some people need to be slaved, i would bring it, slavery, back. I would certainly buy a few. That is alleged commentary from Mark Robinson. The current republican candidate for governor in the key Swing State of North Carolina and an ally of the republican nominee for president , Donald Trump. According to reporting from cnn today, robinson under the User Name Mini soldier wrote these and plenty of other comments on a Porn Website called Nude Africa between the years 2008 and 2012. While endorsing slavery and cosigning On Naziism was a new low for Mark Robinson, he is no stranger to shocking hateful commentary. He denied he posted these comments and insists that he will not exit the governors race. This is not my words, this is not anything that is characteristic of me nor has it ever been. How do you explain all of the matching details on the profile. It lists your full name, as Mark Robinson, the email listed on the account is an email that you used elsewhere on the internet including with your photo. Im not going to get into the minutia of how people did this. But there has been over A Million Dollars spent on me with ai determined to destroy me. Joining me now, sam, it was all ai that did it. I just want to remind everybody at home that these are posts from 2008. To 2012. Which was really the preai era. And Mini Soldier is also Mark Robinsons official handle on i believe pinterest, youtube, and twitter. What do you make of his excuse thus far . It is remarkable how advanced ai has become that it can do what it wants to with 15 year old internet posts. This whole thing is ridiculous. Im glad i could talk about Nude Africa. This is ridiculous. And in a way that kind of insulting to the constituents of North Carolina specifically. The republican one. That Mark Robinson, that survive this. But the idea that this type of article comes up, really suggests that he think it is constituents of North Carolina can be duped. Can be suckered. Told that in Fact Everything in front of them is not real. That it is generated by ai and they shouldnt believe the compelling evidence of the grotesque statements of behavior. That is just the reality we live in these days. In Trump Era politics you can just plow forward. I think maybe the most appalling part of it, his calculation might be right. The North Carolina Republican Party is standing by Mark Robinson, a man you pointed out is eight points behind in this race. Im not saying it would be understandable if he was neck in neck. But the fact they have ever reason to get this man out of the race and are choosing not to tells you as much about the North Carolina party as it tells you about Mark Robinson. Do you think any of this is down to Donald Trump who is a Mark Robinson ally. He thinks Mark Robinson is better than martin luther king. Do you think that the stench of the scandal walks over to Donald Trump or no . First off, the fact that trump compared him to martin luther king. Probably Mark Robinson took that as an insult based on his internet history. So maybe that wasnt the best compliment to pay the guy. In terms of what you are saying, obviously, it doesnt help. You want someone running for governor who can bring in people that you are depending on. Usually its the top of the ticket. In this case, you know, Mark Robinson benefits from trump. But i talked to a couple of republicans in North Carolina

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