Wants. She is a free spirit. That danger of american government pack. I don't think any of these with good advice. A massive turnout in a big state for harrisburg i am feeling very good about pennsylvania. What you need to know about what trump is doing when he lies about a dystopian nightmare caused by immigrants. Is the justice department doing enough to save democracy from tyranny? we will not allow this nation to become a country where lot enforcement is graded as an apparatus of politics. It all starts right now. Good evening from new york. I'm chris hayes. One of the weird advantages donald trump seems to enjoy in this campaign for president, a lot of americans have blocked out what it was really like living through trumps last year , particularly, at the white house. He was downplaying and mismanaging the worst public health crisis in the century and calling for cops and soldiers to dominate americans protesting police violence and racism. Then of course he lost his bid for reelection by more than 7 million votes and decided to pretend that he didn't. Inciting his supporters to try and stop the peaceful transfer of power, leading to an insurrection, the worst assault on the u. S. Capital since the war of 1812. Through it all, one of the things became clear, trump is a person with narcissistic and sociopathic impulses who should be nowhere near the power. Those impulses also mean it matters intensely who is around him. When you lack character, you are a poor judge of character. Nowhere was it more obvious than trumps attempt to steal the election with the aid of stunning cast of not ready for prime time players. What we are really dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through venezuela, cuba and likely china. Our birds were counted in germany and in spain by a company owned by affiliates of chavez and maduro. We aren't going to let this election be stolen by joe biden and the democrats president trump won by a landslide. You can take military abilities and placed them in the states and rerun an election in each of those states. They were convicted and pardoned like michael flynn and roger stone, the my pillow guy, overstock. Com guy, rudy giuliani, marginally tailoring and sidney powell the attorney whose meritless lawsuits and conspiracy theories didn't release the crack in so much as incriminate her and jeopardize her law license. Jeffrey clark who propose to take over the justice department and use it to bolster trumps accounts and who ended up having his house rated for election interference while he stood in his driveway in his underwear. All those people in power trump and worked to facilitate an attempted coup, even while other people in the white house like trying to own white house counsel tried to stop them. I opened the door and i walked in, i thought general phlegm, i thought sidney powell sitting there. I was not happy to see the people in the oval office. Again, i don't think they are providing first of all, the overstock person, i have never met. I don't know who this guy was. The first thing i did, i walked in, i look at him and i said, who are you? and he told me. I don't think any of these people were providing the president with good advice and so i think, i didn't understand how they had gotten in. I will tell you, the president of the united states invited them in. He wanted overstock. Com guy right there. There was a reason that donald trump cleaved to the most whacked out power hungry reality denying weirdos in his intercircle instead of sitting to his white caution personnel. Or his vice president as an vice president steph. As he felt his power slipping away, he consciously invests energy and people who would indulge his insecurities. People would encourage him to follow his worst instincts and cling to power by any means necessary up to and including staging the first attempted coup in american history. Donald trump was so mad he left washington without even attending his successor's inauguration. Leslie images of him inciting insurrection, egged on by the kooks who he invited into his entourage. That happened. That is scary enough. But, here we are again. Look who he is keeping around him now. For instance, far right media personality laura loomer, a self identified proud islamophobic who says she is prowhite nationalism. She has been called. She called, harris a drug using prostitute and was called racist by marjorie taylor greene , of all people. We told you how the rumor was called for the execution of trumps political enemies and celebrated violence against migrants, got a ride from trump in his private jet to this week's debate. How she then accompanied the former president to a 9/11 memorial observance of manhattan despite the fact she is a 911 truth or we told you how elected republicans and campaign officials have grown concerned over trumps increasingly close relationship with loomer. They certainly seem very close many insiders saying she has encouraged him to push the conspiracy theories is now spouting on the campaign trail. One thing is certain, trump is kind of enamored with loomer right now. It's good to have you. You have been very special. You work hard and you are very opinionated. And in my opinion, i like that. Everybody appreciates you. Thank you so much for inviting me to sit with you today. It's a pleasure. You are the best, i love you. It's kind of sweet, in its own weird way. All this came to a head today at trump's latest availability. After a few days of people asking what the is going on here he was asking pointblank about his closeness to loomer and her nutty extremism. What would you say to republican colleagues or your allies who are concerned about your close relationship with laura loomer? i don't know what they would say. Laura has been a supporter of mine, just like a lot of people have supported. She speaks very positively of the campaign. I'm not sure why you ask that question. Laura is a supporter. I don't control laura. She has to say what she wants. She is a free spirit. I don't know. I can't tell laura what to do. She is a supporter. I have a lot of supporters, so i don't know what exactly you are referring to. That's okay. Yeah, please? i just don't know. Laura is a supporter. I don't know. She is a strong person. She has strong opinions and i don't know what she said, but that's not up to me. She is a free spirit. You can't keep that bird in a cage. She has expressed herself and say things like 9/11 was an inside job. She's a supporter, so what can i do? it doesn't matter what the person does they are a supporter. That may be true but it's not true that trump is unfamiliar with loomer's statements. Yesterday he was sharing links to loomer's website on his own social media accounts. Today, loomer is posting more 9/11 conspiracy theories to her own social media. I'm not going to share them with you. Some republicans are grumbling about his closeness to loomer, and others are following lee. The national republican senatorial committee, a group that has been doing a bang up job by the way, gop's official campaign arm for the upper chamber has increasingly relied on the video content loomer produces. Since july the and rfc has featured her videos. Make no mistake, if donald trump becomes president again, laura loomer is going to be there on day one. She might even end up in his administration. Laura loomer has been a warrior for your dad. I hope she is press secretary. Listen, she's a bulldog. I will say that. She gets after it. I love the first secretary. That was donald junior back in november of last year. Again, this is not i can't stress this enough is it's not guilty by association. No, no, no, it's trumps m. O. Openly embracing supporters with the most extreme bile authoritarian bloodthirsty impulses to match and deepen his own and then empowering them and using them to facilitate his own worst impulses. We saw it already. We have been through it. It is not theoretical. On january 6th, that is what we are heading for again, very obviously. That is why it matters that a freespirited, openly racist, deeply troubled 9/11 wants to is getting so very close to donald trump. Michael steele is former chair of national public committee. Olivia is washington correspondent for europe magazine. She spent some time with trump at maralago after the assassination attempt and in the lead up to this week's debate. They join me now. Michael, i want to read for you what tom, who is cleaning clinging to some bulkhead of normal beachhead of normal republicanism. He says today, laura loomer is a crazy conspiracy theorist who regularly utters disgusting garbage intended to divide republicans. A dnc plant couldn't do a better job than she is doing to hurt president trump's chances of winning reelection, enough. I imagine that is why they shared and yet, and yet, and yet. And yet, somewhere. Where was he when trump told the proud voice to stand back and stand by? where was he when donald trump said there are fine people on both sides. And where were any of these fulks? as this crazy moved closer and closer around trump? they were nowhere? why? they didn't care. Why? they were making the money. They were getting the votes. They weren't turning on them. And so, they were useful tools, by the useful idiots, who made as much as they could have it. The interesting thing, that i find most amusing, and i know you well, mr. Hayes, marjorie taylor greene seems to be a little bit out of sorts about all of this. I wonder why that is. I wonder why she is upset about even more crazy. The reality of it is, that is all a part of this ongoing dance of, who is going to be the housewife of donald trump, kind of thing. Who is going to be the closest to him? who is going to have that influence? you put your finger on a lot of it, donald trump has these people around him, not because he is seeking advice from them, not because they are offering any particular intellectual insight, but because they are affirming his worst instincts. They a from his better judgment. They tell him what he wants. You showed that picture of loomer standing under donald trump. First question was, where the heck is milani? that's a little too close for a picture. It's that kind of closeness that donald trump likes. Here we are on a friday night, getting gloomy. Here we go. The part about marginally marjorie taylor greene, there is two parts of the m. O. That are very consistent. The point i made about january 6th were sometimes really deranged people get very close to him, but he also likes it when the people fight each other and for each other publicly and brutally because that is, that feeds the ego addiction like they are doing this for me and it seems like this all happening in front of him and in front of the nation is kind of like what he enjoys. Yeah he is a reality tv host. Let's never forget that. Let's also not forget his political rise on the right began in this era, anyway, with his promotion of the racist conspiracy that barack obama was not born in this country. He was one of the central promoters of birth are is him. He claimed he was sending investigators to hawaii. He talked about this recently. He worked at the trump organization and don burke said something like, whenever said to send investigators but it was all made up your he was playing to this racist backlash. And so none of this is aberrant behavior, to have loomer around or any of these people around him, they are not there because they are bringing a new perspective. They are there as michael said, to affirm what is already his worldview. The abhorrent step is when he had more measured people around him and actual traditional political experience. All of this is a return to what it was like in 2013, 2014, 2015. That is a great point. And then the last days of that administration, the runup to january 6th when the hr pat, they weren't there. It was the overstock guy, the pillow guy, your loomer and stones. Go ahead. His more runofthemill white house staffers to traditionally might ask them what they think about something. If they were telling him, you lost, he would yell and scream and they really didn't want to be anywhere near him. In that void you had that sidney powell is an rudy giuliani's of the world. We saw how that worked out. When his back is up against a wall, he likes these comforts but i think it's what he has people like cory back in the fold now. He wants to feel like this is 2016 again because he won that one. I will say, the stakes are very high because if he were to win, day one is like, we are going to do mass deportation. There will be people telling him this is a disaster. That's going to matter a lot, who those people are. I identify some of that. I think it was very easy to laugh at this at the time, but there was always an argument from people working in administration, you don't have any idea how betty would be. You don't know what we prevent on a daily basis. 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