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This doctor is a bit of a super hero herself here because she was the first to link the water to high levels of lead in the children of flint. The word lead when youre a physician or pediatrician signals what in your brain . There is no safe level of lead. It impacts cognition. How children think actually drops by two levels. It impacts behavior leading to things like developmental delays and has lifealtdering consequences. Youve heard a lot about the future of driverless cars. But what about this . Thats right, 18 wheels on the road and nobody in the drivers seat. Dont be surprised to see this on american highways soon. How close are we to a day when these trucks have no driver . Well be operating on the public highways with real cargo with a real fleet in 2021. ticking im lesley stahl. Im Bill Whitaker. Im anderson cooper. Im sharyn alfonsi. Im jon wertheim. Im scott pelley. 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Since then, hes been in a hospital, too ill to speak. That has propelled teams of courageous nurses to visit hundreds of homes on the frontline. Westchester county is home to a million residents, about a half hours drive from americas largest city. Chevon jones, Caitlin Doyle goldsmith, and cathy gomez are nurses in the county department of health. Theyre suiting up to enter the home of a couple who had contact with that first patient. A few minutes before they put on their equipment, they had introduced themselves on the doorstep. Chevon jones i want people to see who i am first. Its very important. I want them to see my face before i put on all the equipment. So, we go, knock on the door, introduce ourselves. Were from Westchester County health department. Were nurses. Were here to do the testing. Cathy gomez when this first started, we would ask them also, do you want us to go around the back so that your neighbors dont see this and they dont get alarmed . But then as it started becoming more public they were jones they were okay. Pelley how do people react to your visits . Gomez grateful. Thats all i can say. Theyre all kind, grateful. Pelley not fearful . Gomez not fearful. Not fearful at all of us. Pelley the nurses collect one swab from the nose and another from the throat. A few days ago, the swabs were being carried by state troopers, three hours, to the only lab in new york certified to do the tests. Since then, another 28 labs have been approved. What are some of the questions, chevon, that you get from these families that youre visiting . Jones the number one question is, when will i have my test results . When will i be off of quarantine . You know, a lot of em was, like, is there a letter that you can give to me for my employer . The answers are; up to three days for the results, 14 days in quarantine, and a patient can show his employer the, official, quarantine order left by the nurses. Pelley there must be people who say, oh, i cant be quarantined for 14 days. I have a business trip to detroit next week, right . And you tell them . Gomez you must. Pelley you must. Caitlin doylegoldsmith were asking you to stay home for 14 days, also pending the results of your labs. Were asking you not to go to work, not to go to school, not to go food shopping. Really, just to stay home. If you need to get a breath of fresh air, youre allowed to go in your backyard, but dont go within six feet of anyone. Pelley this past week, the governor of new york, andrew cuomo, closed broadway theaters and all venues with more than 500 seats. He ordered bars and restaurants to operate at half capacity. Andrew cuomo we have to get down the rate of infection. And the only two ways to do that is test, test, test, find the positive, isolate the positive, stop the contagion by reducing the density. Just reduce the ability of the virus to spread. Pelley from the early data, it appears that the vast majority of patients have mild symptoms. So why is it important to take these severe measures . Cuomo if we did nothing, yes, 80 would contract the virus. They would selfresolve. Some people would require hospitalization. And we could overwhelm the Hospital System and those Vulnerable People who needed the Vulnerable People who needed the intensive care wouldnt get it. Intensive care wouldnt get it. Pelley but part of the cost is an economic crisis. Markets rose friday, but not before the dow industrials suffered its most rapid fall from a record high to a bear market since november, 1931 the great depression. The airplanes are flying empty. I was at j. F. K. Airport yesterday. It was almost abandoned, it looked to me. You have cut the capacity of every restaurant in new york city in half. These are real costs to the economy. Cuomo what value do you put on human life . What value do you put on human life . And we say here, its invaluable. And if you say, well, were gonna lose 5,000 more people. I say close the restaurants. I say close the stores. I dont wanna lose 5,000 more people. If you do not slow the spread, the Health Care System can be overwhelmed. And more people will die. Pelley new york state spent 30 million just this past week on its virus mobilization. In Westchester County, 60 nurses and e. M. T. S are dispatched from a center hastily set up by the state in Vacant Office space. That man is a forest ranger, theyre pulling in staff from 20 state agencies. When we were there, 222 homes had been visited, 639 were waiting with more added all the time. County Health Commissioner dr. Sherlita amler told us investigators are questioning everyone who may have had contact with that first patient. Dr. Sherlita amler where have they traveled to . What do they do for a living . Who do they work with . Where do they work . What kind of work do they do . If there are children in the family, where do they go to school . Then, what about their social life . Were they at any parties . Did they go to any business organizations meetings . Did they travel . Pelley this is what she is trying to avoid. In italy there were too many patients too fast. The hospitals were overrun. Slowing the virus in america buys time. Amler why do we need time . Because we do not have a vaccine currently to prevent this disease. We do not have an antiviral to treat this disease. So, if we can slow it down and there are fewer people infected, well have fewer deaths. Pelley most of Westchester Countys quarantined are in the city of new rochelle. Here, the state has imposed what it calls a containment zone. Mayor noam bramson it is primarily residential. Pelley mayor noam bramson told us the center of the zone is the synagogue visited by that first patient. Bramson so the containment zone has a onemile radius. To be very clear, because theres a lot of confusion about this it is not a quarantine zone. Its not an exclusion zone. It is an area in which large gatherings within large institutions are prohibited. Which means no gatherings of more than 50 people. So it effects schools, both public and private. Thats houses of worship. It effects the local country club. But it doesnt have an effect on residents, it doesnt have an effect on businesses. No one is prohibited from entering or leaving. Its not as though this areas on lockdown. Pelley maybe not the area, but this lock is on the gate of new rochelles high school. The nearby middle school is being sanitized. And this is a bank in westchesters containment zone. Tamar weinberg its very difficult when you have Young Children, but, yeah. Pelley Tamar Weinberg had contact with the countys first patient. Shes quarantined at home. How old are your children . Weinberg three, five, seven, ten. Pelley how long have you been behind the gate here . Weinberg for a week. Pelley what is that like . Weinberg a little stir crazy, but thankfully i love them, so were good, were good there. Pelley im usually much friendlier than this, is ten feet or so, and were told thats what we have to do in order to avoid any contact. Weinberg right. Pelley she shot these pictures for us of her online life Online School for the kids Online Support from the community. Weinberg the community at large has, theyve been amazing at just offering to do any types of errands, shopping for us. And what they do is they come to our house. They drop off food at our doorsteps. Pelley what are you gonna do the first day you can open the gate . Weinberg im gonna go to the gym. Im gonna run. Running around in circles around my driveway, even though its nice and all, i almost die of boredom. Pelley friday, the state opened a drive through Testing Center in new rochelle. Swabs are passed through the window nose and throat samples are passed back out. The driver will get a call in a couple of days. The state hopes to process 6,000 tests a day. And you know what to do . Pelley by this morning, Westchester County reported tests on more than 1,300 people. Of those 14 have come back positive, so far, 4,000 in Westchester County have been under quarantine. George lattimer is the countys top elected official. When you have someone in a mandatory quarantine for 14 days what if they dont have 14 days worth of groceries . What if they dont have their prescription drugs . George lattimer thats our job. Our job is to figure out how to get them the food that they need. If there are medicines or anything else under the sun, you know, any of the necessities of life, we have to figure out how to deliver that. Pelley lattimer is also thinking ahead to a worse case. Lattimer civil unrest is always a possibility depending on how large a group you have to quarantine. So, the real question is how many more new rochelles will we see in the nation . How large will this get . And will government at every level, from the federal government on down, be prepared to deal with these things . Pelley nothing seems normal. Even in preparing for our interview with Governor Cuomo at the state capitol. Cuomo so unusual pelley the new York Department of health required we sit ten feet apart because the state is monitoring the 60 minutes office where several colleagues have the virus. After the interview, one of the governors daughters went into selfisolation after being near someone who might have been exposed. Its bound to get worse . Cuomo it will get worse. It will get much worse before it gets better. Pelley can you imagine a quarantine of new york city . Cuomo no. I cant imagine a quarantine of new york city. I can imagine additional density reductions. Were at 50 occupancy. Italy went to Closing Stores entirely besides Grocery Stores and pharmacies. I think actually the more successful you are early on, the less dramatic efforts you have to take later on. Pelley when does this end . Cuomo months. Months. Pelley we have been following Public Health nurses in Westchester County who are putting on all the protective gear, going into the homes of people who are believed to be infected. I wonder what you think of their effort. Cuomo god bless them. God bless them. God bless them. I marvel at their courage and their dedication. You cant pay a person enough to do that. Its a character statement of who they are. Pelley you know, a lot of people watching what you do would think that its heroic. Jones this is what Public Health is, and so this is what we do. This is our job. Doylegoldsmith for me, i think you feel like the whole community is your patient. Pelley you know, im curious, knowing what you know, what do you tell your own families . Gomez wash your hands. Doylegoldsmith maybe no unnecessary travel. 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The turning point came when a local pediatrician found conclusive proof hat the children of flint were being exposed to high levels of lead in their water, and prompted the state to declare an emergency. Now that same doctor is working to solve a mystery that still worries parents in flint what lasting damage did the water do to their kids . Tonight you will hear her initial findings which she says are worse than she feared. But we begin with the legacy of flints water crisis. Once a week, hundreds of cars line up for bottled water at the Greater Holy Temple Church of god in flint. Sandra jones is in command. She is a pastors wife with the voice of a four star general. Take his number. Well find a way to deliver to him. Jones keeps the cars moving and the water coming. Each family is allowed four cases of water. On this day, they gave away 36,000 bottles. It just strikes me. Its been five years and youre still doin this. Sandra jones five years. And and the thing about it is its not lightening up. I could see it if it was lightening up. But it isnt. Alfonsi it is not. The state stopped giving away bottled water two years ago, because it said the water is safe. Sandra jones relies on donations of water. Whats it been like . Larry marshall its been kinda hard. Alfonsi Larry Marshall was second in line. The widowed father of four got here at 5 00 a. M. Hes been waiting five hours for water. Marshall water should be a basic necessity that we shouldnt have to wait or stand in line for, you know. This is not a third world country. But were livin like one. Alfonsi marshall, like many in flint, still refuses to drink tap water. And if they come to you the city or the state and they say, youre Drinking Waters safe. Are you going to believe them . Marshall no. They lie so much and we know they lie, and i when they say something, its like talkin to the wind, you know. I dont believe nothin they say. None of the politicians, none oi em. Flint, once alint, once a pros prosperous hub of the American Auto industry was nearly bankrupt back in 2014. Officials hoped to save money by switching the city water source from the great lakes to the flint river. Almost immediately, residents began noticing something wasnt right. The water was rustcolored and many people had rashes. But michigans department of Environmental Quality and the city insisted the water in flint is safe. Later, a state investigation found those officials hid the fact that the river water was not treated with chemicals that would prevent the pipes from corroding. So, for months, the water ate away at flints old pipes, releasing lead into residents tap water. Dr. Mona hannaatisha they were poisoned. I mean, they were poisoned by this water. They were all exposed to toxic water. dr. Mona hannaona hanna atisha is a pediatrician in flint who her patients call dr. Mona. How strongf dr. Mona is a bit of a superhero herself here, because she was the first to link the water to high levels of lead in the children of flint. Dr. Mona so within a few months of of being on this water, general motors, which was born in flint, and still has plants in flint, noticed that this water, our Drinking Water, was corroding their engine parts. Lets pause. Like, the drinking laughs water was corroding engine parts. So they were allowed to go back to great lakes water. Alfonsi didnt anybody at that point say, if its corroding an engine, maybe this shouldnt be going into our bodies, into our kids . Dr. Mona i mean, that should have been like fire alarm bells. Like, red flags. Alfonsi so what did it take before your it your eyes opened about this . Dr mona yeah. It it it was the word lead. Alfonsi because the word lead, when youre a physician or a pediatrician, signals what in your brain . Dr. Mona there is no safe level of lead. Were never supposed to expose a population or a child to lead. Because we cant do much about it. It is an irreversible neurotoxin. It attacks the core of what it means to be you, and impacts cognition how children think. Actually drops i. Q. Levels. It impacts behavior, leading to things like developmental delays. And it has these lifealtering consequences. Alfonsi in 2015, dr. Mona and a colleague started digging through blood test records of 1,700 flint children, including the kids she sees at the hurley childrens clinic. Ready . Alfonsi the nonprofit clinic serves most of flints kids. The city is 53 black and has one of the highest poverty rates in the country. Dr. Mona so we looked at the childrens blood lead levels before the water switch. And we compared them to the childrens blood lead levels after the water switch. And in the areas where the water lead levels were the highest, in those parts of the city, we saw the greatest increase in childrens lead levels. Alfonsi armed with the first medical evidence that kids were being exposed to lead from the water, dr. Mona did something controversial she quickly held a press conference to share the blood test study before other doctors reviewed her work. Dr. Mona so it was a bit of an academic nono. Kind of a form of academic disobedience. But i l alfonsi and you knew that . Dr. Mona i i knew that. But, like, but there was no choice there was no way i was going to wait to have this this research vetted. Alfonsi two weeks later, michigan Governor Rick Snyder ordered the water switched back to the great lakes and declared a state of emergency. Governor rick snyder i say tonight as i have before i am sorry and i will fix it. Alfonsi but the damage was done. Dr. Mona estimates 14,000 kids in flint under the age of six may have been exposed to lead in their water. Dr. Mona i never should have had to do the research that literally used the blood of our children as detectors of environmental contamination. Alfonsi three years after the crisis began the percentage of third graders in flint who passed michigans standardized literacy test dropped from 41 to 10 . Kenyatta dotson im very concerned about my children. And not only my children, but im concerned about the children of flint. Alfonsi Kenyatta Dotson is still fearful of the water, even though the state is spending more than 300 million to fix the water system. The city promised to replace all 12,000 supply lines that may have been contaminated with lead by last fall. Now, they say the work wont be done until summer. Dotson says she and her daughters will continue to use bottled water for cooking and brushing their teeth. Dotson i need time to come back to a place where i feel whole again. Alfonsi you dont feel whole right now . Dotson oh, no. Alfonsi would this have happened in a rich, white suburb . Dotson maybe it wouldve happened in in a rich, white suburb. Would it have continued for as long as it has . I dont believe so. Alfonsi we found many parents in flint still bathe their Young Children with bottled water first warmed on the stove then brought to the tub. Dr. Mona when im in clinic, almost every day, a mom asks me, is my kid gonna be okay . So thats a number one kind of anxiety and and concern right now alfonsi how do you answer that . Dr. Mona oh, i i sit down. I sometimes hold their hand. And i reassure my patients and their parents just as i would before the crisis to keep doing everything that youre supposed to be doing to promote your childrens development. The flint registry is now live. Alfonsi in january of 2019, she launched the flint registry, the First Comprehensive look at the thousands of kids exposed to lead in flint. The goal of the federal and statefunded program is to track the health of those kids and get them the help they need. So today is the final day of his assessment. Alfonsi the registry refers hundreds of kids to specialists who conduct eight hours of neuropsychological assessments of their behavior and development. Dr. Mona shared her preliminary findings with 60 minutes. Before the crisis, about 15 of the kids in flint required special education services. But of the 174 children who went through the extensive neuro exams, specialists determined that 80 will require help for a language, learning or intellectual disorder. What are you going to do . Dr. Mona so, theres not much we can do. So theres no magic pill. Theres no antidote. Theres no cure. We cant take away this exposure. But incredible science has taught us that theres a lot we can do to promote the health and development of children and thats exactly what were doing. Alfonsi through the registry, already 2,000 flint children who were exposed to lead have been connected to services such as speech and Occupational Therapy which some may need for the rest of their lives. Dr. Mona but we also realized that our research, our science, this data and facts was also an underestimation of the exposure. Alfonsi why underestimated . Dr. Mona because we wee looking at blood lead data done as part of these surveillance programs, which are done at the ages of one and two. Lead in water impacts a younger age group. It impacts the unborn. Alfonsi to determine that impact, dr. Mona turned to a novel technique developed by dr. Manish arora at new yorks mount sinai hospital. He examines baby teeth. Baby teeth begin to grow in utero. Dr manish arora and just like growth rings in trees, every day a tooth forms a ring. And anything that were exposed to in our diet, what we eat, what we breathe, what we drink gets trapped in those growth rings. Alfonsi a laser cuts through the tooth to analyze whether lead is embedded in the growth rings of teeth. Dr. Mona has sent teeth from 49 flint kids to be analyzed. This was a scan on the tooth of a child who was six months old when the water source switched in flint. Dr. Arora as we hit that six month mark where the alfonsi oh, my gosh dr. Arora water the water supply was changed, you can see how alfonsi look at that. Dr. Arora you can see how the lead levels go up and then they just keep keep going up as more and more leads entering the body. Alfonsi it shoots straight up. Dr. Arora exactly. Alfonsi wow. For the first time, researchers can pinpoint to the day even before birth when a child was exposed to lead from the water and at what levels. Those early years are a critical time for brain development. Dr. Mona youre taking giant steps alfonsi as we were following dr. Monas work in flint, another American City was forced to hand out cases of water. Testing on the Drinking Water in newark, new jersey found lead levels four times higher than the federal limit. In some places, higher than flint. Newark officials were warned about its water more than two years ago. Dr. Mona newark, new jersey is like living flint all over again. If we cannot guarantee that all kids g have access to safe Drinking Water, not just privileged kids, but all kids have access to safe Drinking Water. Thats just one issue. Like, who are we . Alfonsi this is not isolated to flint dr. Mona this is this is an everywhere story. This is an america story. Jones lets move them out. Alfonsi last month, we made another visit to flint to check in with sandra jones. Jones lets move them out. Yall are moving too slow. She was still in command despite temperatures in the single digits. Hundreds in flint are still coming to her Church Parking lot for their weekly supply of water, more than five years after the crisis began. Ladies, my friends and i are having a debate. 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All hail the 18wheeler hugging those asphalt ribbons, transporting all of our stuff across the fruited plains, from sea to shining sea. Though we may not give it a Second Thought when we click that Free Shipping icon, truckers move 70 of the nations goods. But trucking cut a considerably different figure on a humid sunday last summer on the florida turnpike. Starsky robotics, a tech startup, may have been driving in the right lane, but they passed the competition and did this. Yeah, thats 35,000 pounds of steel, thundering down a busy highway with nobody behind the wheel. The test was a milestone. Starsky was the First Company to put a truck on an open highway without a human on board. Everyone else in the game with the knowhow keeps a warm body in the cab as backup for now, anyway. If you didnt hear about this, youre not alone; in jacksonville, we talked to jeff widdows, his son tanner, linda allen and Eric Richardson all truckers; and all astonished to learn how far this technology has come. Linda allen i wasnt awarei til i ran across one on the florida turnpike and that just it just scares me. I cant imagine. But i didnt know anything about it. Wertheim no ones talkin about it at work . Jeff widdows nobody, never, never. Eric richardson i didnt know that itd come so far. And im thinkin, wow. Its here. Wertheim hes right. The autonomous truck revolution is here. It just isnt much discussed not on c. B. Radios; and not in statehouses. And transportation agencies are not inclined to pump the brakes. From florida, hang a left and drive 2,000 miles west on i10 and youll hit the proving grounds of a company with a fleet of 41 autonomous rigs. This is a shop floor . Or this is a laboratory chuck price its both. Wertheim in the guts of the sonoran desert, outside tucson, chuck price is chief product officer at tusimple, a privately held, global autonomous trucking outfit valued at more than a billion dollars with operations t at this depot, 12 million worth of gleaming selfdriving semis are on the move. Right now weve got safety operators in the cab. How far away are we from runs without drivers . Price we believe well be able to do our first driverout demonstration runs on public highways in 2021. Wertheim thats the when. For the how. Price our primary sensor system is our array of cameras that you see along the top of the vehicle wertheim heard about souping up vehicles. This takes it to a new level. Price its a little bit different. Yeah. Wertheim the competition is fierce so much so their technology is akin to a state secret. But price points us to a network of sensors, cameras and radar devices strapped to the outside of the rig, all of it hardwiredi supercomputer that drives the truck. Its selfcontained, so a bad wifi signal wont wreak havoc on the road. Price our system can see farther than any other Autonomous System in the world. We can see forward over a half mile wertheim you can drive autonomously at night . Price we can. Day, night. And in the rain. And in the rain at night. Wertheim and theyre working on driving in the snow. Chuck price has unshakable confidence in the reliability of the technology; as do some of the biggest names in shipping u. P. S. , amazon and the u. S. Postal service ship freight with tusimple trucks. All in, each unit costs more than a quarter million dollars. Not a great expense, considering its designed to eliminate the annual salary of a driver; currently around 45,000. Another savings the driverless truck can get coasttocoast in two days, not four, stopping only to refuel though a human still has to do that. We wanted to hop in and experience automated trucking firsthand. K wahappy toblige. We didnt know what to expect, so we fashioned more cameras to the rig than nasa glued to the apollo rockets. Maureen fitzgerald is everybody buckled in . Buckled in. Fitzgerald three, two, one. And we hit go. Truck computer autonomous driving started. Driving started. Wertheim we sat in the back alongside the computer. In the front seat maureen fitzgerald, a truckers trucker with 30 Years Experience. She was our safety driver, babysitting with no intention of gripping the wheel, but there just in case. Riding shotgun an engineer, John Panttila there to monitor the software. The driverless truck was attempting a 65mile loop in weekday traffic through tucson. The route was mapped and programmed in before the run, but thats about it. The rest was up to the computer, which makes 20 decisions per second about what to do on the road. As we rolled past distracted drivers, disabled cars, slowpokes and sheriffs, our safety driver kept vigil, but never disengaged the driverless system. John panttila watching the front targets close in a hundred. Yep. Got to cut in right now. 55 mile an hour. Bad cutoff. Wertheim this guy just flagrantly cut off price he just really cut us off. Wertheim we did not honk at him. Did we disengage . Price we did not disengage. This vehicle will detect that kind of behavior faster than the humans. Wertheim how far are we from being able to pick up the specific cars that are passing us . Oh, thats joe from new jersey with six points on his license. Price we can read license plates. So if there was an accessible database for Something Like that, we could. Wertheim chuck price says that would be valuable to the company, though he admits it could create obvious privacy issues. But tusimple does collect a lot of data, as it maps more and more routes across the southwest. Their enterprise also includes a fleet of autonomous trucks in shanghai, as well as a Research Center in beijing. The Data Collected by every truck, along every mile, its uploaded and used by tusimple, they say only to Perfect Performance on the road. Maureen fitzgerald is convinced that tusimples technology is superior to human drivers. You call these trucks your babies . What do your babies do well, and what could they do better . Fitzgerald this truck is scanning mirrors, looking 1,000 meters out. Its processing all the things that my brain could never do and it can react 15 times faster than i could. Wertheim most of her two million fellow truckers are less enthusiastic. Automated trucking threatens to jackknife an entire 800 billion industry. Trucking is among the most common jobs for americans without a college education. So this disruption caused by the driverless truck, it cuts deep. Steve viscelli as truckers like to say, if you bought it, a truck brought it. Wertheim Steve Viscelli is a sociologist at the university of pennsylvania and an expert in freight transportation and automation. He also spent six months driving a bigrig. What segment do you think is going to be hit first by driverless trucks . Viscelli ive identified two segments that i think are most atrisk. And thats refrigerated and dry van truckload. And those constitute about 200,000 trucking jobs. And then whats called line haul, and theyre somewhere in the neighborhood of 80,000 90,000 jobs there. Wertheim so youre talkin 300,000 jobs off the top its a big number. Viscelli it is a big number. Wertheim the florida truckers we met represent 70 Years Experience and millions of safe driving miles. They say they love the job and when asked to describe their work they kick around words like vital, honest and patriotic. Richardson it makes you feel like you could should just poke your chest out f with the responsibility. laughs that youre takin on kinda makes you feel like a like youre needed. Wertheim asked about driverless trucks, they feel like they are being run off the road. But another issue troubles them even more. Widdows i think that Companies Need to keep safety in mind. Richardson you have a glitch in a computer at that speed. Allen yeah. Richardson you can do some damage laughs allen theres too many things that can go wrong. Richardson one of them semi hits somethin thats small, like a car or a passenger car, or anything like that, its a done deal. I mean. Allen i was on 75 last mo throh ocala. And there was a bad accident so a state trooper came out. And he was handsignaling people. You go here, you go there. Hows an autonomous truck gonna recognize what the officer is tryin to say or do . Hows that gonna work . Wertheim sympathy, empathy, fear, code, eye contact i dont know how you create an algorithm that accounts for all that. Allen you cant. Wertheim does the public have a right to know if theyre testing driverless trucks on the interstate absolutely. Tanner thats well, thats our concern, is whos watchin this . re throwin something unsafe on the road . Sam loesche i think a lot of it is being done with almost no oversight from Good Governance groups, from the government itself. Wertheim sam loesche represents 600,000 truckers for the teamsters. Hes concerned that federal, state and local governments have only limited access to the Driverless Technology. Loesche a lot of this information, understandably, is proprietary. Tech companies wanna keep, you know, their algorithms and their safety data secret until they can kinda get it right. The problem is that, in the meantime, theyre testing this technology on public roads. Theyre testin it next to you as you drive down the road. Wertheim and that was consistent with our reporting. Do you have to tell anyone when you test . Price no, not for individual tests. Wertheim do you have to tell them where you test . Price we do not currently have to tell them where we test in arizona. Wertheim or how how often you test . Price no. Wertheim do you have to share your data with any state department of transportation . Price currently, were not required to share data, we would be happy to share data. Wertheim what about inspections . Does anyone from the arizona d. O. T. Come by and and check this stuff out . Price the d. O. T. Comes by all the time. We talk with them regularly. Its not a formal inspection process yet. Wertheim we wanted to ask elaine chao, secretary of the department of transportation, about regulating this emerging sector. She declined an interview, but prvided us with a statement which reads in part, the Department Needs to prepare for the Transportation Systems of the future by engaging with new technologies to address safety without hampering innovation. To that point, chuck price is emphatic that driverless trucks pose fewer dangers. Price we eliminate texting accidents, no distraction wertheim because theres no no texting while driving when theres a computer. Price there are no drunk computers. And the computer doesnt sleep. So those are large causes of accidents. Wertheim he adds that driverless trucks are more fuel efficient in part because they can stay perfectly aligned in their lane and, unlike humans, are programmed never to speed. But he admits the profit motive is significant. You think theres a lot of money to be made here. Price theres certainly a lot of money to be made. Theres a theres an opportunity to solve a very big problem. Wertheim Steve Viscelli says the industry may be imperfect, but he thinks the solution should not depend on Driverless Technology alone. Whats your response to the Technology Companies that say, look, im trying to do something more efficiently, and im going to improve safety. This is american enterprise. What are you gonna get in the way of this for . Viscelli id say that thats wonderful. laughs but thats not your job. Right . Your jobs to make money. Policy is gonna decide what our outcomes are gonna be. Trucking is a very competitive industry. Wins. The lowroad approach often wins. Wertheim we talk about the internal Combustion Engine replacing the horse and buggy, and eisenhowers interstate system when we talk about these transformational markers in transportation wherescell. ticking for a look at how 60 minutes reports its stories, go to 60 60minutesovertime. Com, sponsored by pfizer. Chantix is proquit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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