Persuaded turkeys president erdogan to agree to a ceasefire. After several hours of negotiation, Vice President pence announced the United States and turkey reached an agreement. The president dispatched mike pompeo and Vice President pompeo and Robert Obrien to negotiate the ceasefire. Reporter erdogan went past any outline he gave the president. The president penned a letter saying dont a tough guy, dont be a fool. After sending mike pence and mike pompeo to meet with he erdogan, the president got everything he wanted. President trump if we didnt have this tough love approach you have couldnt have gone the it done. Reporter erdogan agreed top a 5 day ceasefire. The president said the message to erdogan was a tough one. Reporter the demand was for a ceasefire. What was the or else . The United States is not going to stand idly by while innocent lives were lost. We have an entire package of sanctions that the president was prepared to implement immediately if we had not been able to come to an agreement on a ceasefire. We were bringing our troops out. But it was president erdogan that made the decision to bring his military into syria. And President Trump made it clear that was unacceptable from the very beginning. That there would be consequences. Reporter according to reuters the kurdsishled Syrian Democratic forces agreed to the ceasefire. In the early going Officials Say they are optimistic but acknowledge they have a long way to go. And like anything in the middle east, this could all fall apart tomorrow. Lou john roberts reporting from ankara. More rino resistance to the president s leadership. Mitch mcconnell declaring the House Resolution condemning the withdrawal from syria was a good thing. City was happy to see the house vote to sustain the u. S. Global leadership. And against the hasty withdrawal from syria. Lou Mitch Mcconnell not the only rino republican to condemn the president. George w. Bush did so as well. Bush at an event with an event with bill clinton said the following according to josh grow bin. An isolationist United States is destabilizing around the world. Thats dangerous for the sake of peace. The former president s comments a far cry from what he said in 2014 when asked why he didnt criticize president obama. He said quote i dont think its good for the country for a former president to injured mine a former president. I think its bad for the presidency, for that matter. President trumps acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney held a press briefing and it was animated and thoroughly infusing to the press corp and department of justice. It seams to contradict what the president said and the transcript shows. There was no quid pro quo. Get over it. You can stop asking the questions because there is no coverup. Reporter the acting white house chief of staff was unapologetic about the president s actions including the temporary suspension of aid to the ukraine. Did he mention the corruption related to the dnc server . Absolutely. Thats why we held up the money. Report rrs he told reporters they were utterly confused and angry over john durhams probe into the star gins of the 2016 russia collusion case. As mulvaney spoke, sondland said the president was sceptical ukraine was interested in anticorruption reform. You may not like the fact that giuliani was involved. Thats fine. Its not illegal or impeachable. The president gets to use who he wants to use. Reporter he he said the focus came into focus over time. He said i did not understand until much later that mr. Julianys agenda may have been an effort to involve ukrainians directly or or indirectly in the 2020 reelection campaign. But mulvaney denied the administration did anything improperly. Did you do anything to present sure the ukraines to investigate bides . No. Reporter his News Conference earlier today reads the media decided to misconstrue my comments. He also emphasized there was never a quid pro quo with the ukrainians. Lou as he said, get over it. Catherine herridge from washington. Senator mike lee failed for a fourth time to pass his legislation that would accelerate the flow of indian h1b visa workers and Chinese Workers into the United States. Senate bill 386 is called the fairness for highskilled immigrants act. It passed in the house as hr1044. Its supported by the Indian Government as well as big tech like google and microsoft. Senator lee met with indian men and women from a group called immigration voice who support the bill. Lee took to the senate floor, trying to highlight some of the indian workers who would benefit from such legislation but he encountered considerable difficulty. We have a registered nurse. Dr. Pria. Shumugnam. Lou up not saying i could do any better but he did terrible. He says he hasnt heard anyone give a sound remember for not supporting his bill. Lou senator durbin gave him a reason. No visas for the rest of the world if you follow senator lees proposal. In 10 years there will still be 165,000 people of indian descent waiting in line and the rest of the world would have been exclude. Ing this is unfair. Lou senator durbin has his own legislation to exempt spouses and children from being counted for the purpose of quotas and raise the annual available number of employmentbased visas, of course. Health and Human Services secretary alex azar joins us. Ole be talking with opiates, drugs and generics and what the administration is doing to lower healthcare costs for americans. The new book about the deep states corruption and lies. Up next, senate rinos somewhat skiddish about the possibility of bringing in joe biden for a hearing. 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The senate failed to override President Trumps rerow of a resolution to end the National Emergency declaration for a border wall. 10 rinos voted in favor of that override including senators blunt, collins, lee, murkowski, paul, portman, romney, marco rubio. Senate republicans are warning senator lindsey graham, the chair of the House Judiciary Committee not to invite joe biden to testify on corruption. He has been open to bringing in the former Vice President for a hearing. But john thune, for example, the republican whip, saying quote, if you are lindsey, i am not sure i would take recommendations from Rudy Giuliani on who i would bring in to testify. John cornyn also chiming in. Quote it wouldnt be my highest priorities. We need limited bandwidth if we focus on getting things done and not contributing side show. Lou i think he meant we need more bandwidth. Former chair of the senate Judiciary Committee says he wants to know what a bind hearing would accomplish being that bind is a frontrunner for the dems 2020 nomination. Joining us, matt gaetz, you are still a member of the freedom caucus, right . Thats right. Lou every one of the republican conferences leaders joined in with the democrats. What is going on in your party . This is bringing back the stench of the paul ryan years. I completely disagree with the democrat led resolution to condemn the president on syria. They are the same voices that wanted to topple assad that caused this problem turkey. Erdogan has seen his Approval Rating shoot through the roof because he promised the turks he will resettle 2 million to 3 million refugees back into this portion of the buffer zone. So a regime change war backed by the war lobby caused the migration of people. Dont let the republicans off the hook. There were a lot of republicans that supported the Obama Policies of regime change in syria and libya. Here is my question. Why are republicans or any americans so surprised when donald trump does exactly what he said he was going to do. He said in the campaign and as president he would end these wars. Lou my question to you was whats going on with your party. A third less than a third of you have supported the president of the United States in the midst of the most of outrageous, most of outrageous, baseless claims by the radical dimms and this star chamber inquiry of adam schiffs. Far too many republicans believe its courageous to support u. S. Deployment of forces everywhere. Lou they are settling in with the military Industrial Complex. They had sold out 100 . They are. Thats not courage. Real courage is standing up to the special interests and standing up to the war lobby and the farm chair generals who believe we ought to be engaged anywhere. You have know whats ridiculous . They divide the time and debate on this resolution between republicans and democrats. Only tom reid and i from new york spoke against this resolution. Its a bad thing for republicans to look like we are more in love with the war lobby and military Industrial Complex than the policies pursued by this president yielding Better Outcomes for this country. We need to put american first. Lou it seems to me that you have an uphill battle there to reason at all with your own conference. The radical dimms persist in this what the president calls a con game, a hoax, and witch hunt part 2. This is a as this is seeing e president keep a Campaign Promise and together right thing, getting a thousand our troops out of somewhere they never should have been. Donald trump is the first president to end a middle east war since george bush the first. I hope this isnt the first forever war that donald trump ends. Lou issue being here now, where is this party going to go . Siding as if this is a game with the radical dimms on this issue, they accuse the president of being rash in his judgment then they side with the dimms on this . The republicans look like bloody damn cowardly fools. Republicans also unfortunately are casting themselves as people who will be the invade everyone invite everyone party. I wish we were more focused on the u. S. Border with 34ebgs cothan turkeys border with syria or iraqs border with iran. Lou half of the conference wont line up with it. Its shameful. We ought to. We ought to understand real strength for our country means resilience at home. A protected homeland, a restored Manufacturing Base and prioritizing our border rather than borders 7,000 miles from americas. Lou this president stands alone other be than republicans like you. 197 republicans are running for reelection and 2 3 are siding with democrats. What do you think their chances of survival are at the polls . I think we have seen republicans who dont stand with this president are not view offed favorably by their constituents. People see how hard the president i is working and al the crap hes taking. Even lies about context. Lou entire leadership gives the speaker of the house on both cheeks and votes along with the democrats. Do not give me that image, lou, please, this is dinner time. Lou british Prime MinisterBoris Johnson reaching a brexit deal with european leaders. Whether mr. Johnson can pass it through parliament is another question. He has until saturday to convince the mps to pass the deal. He otherwise would be required to request a 3month delay. European leaders say they back this new agreement, but they left the door open for that 3month extension of course. Up next. A few thoughts on the trump administrations major Foreign Policy victory. Also how the white house is working to bring affordable healthcare to all americans. Alex azar joins us next. Stay with us. 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With sofi, get your credit cards right by consolidating your Credit Card Debt into one monthly payment. And get your Interest Rate right. So you can save big. Get a nofee personal loan up to 100k. Lou welcome back. Ecigarette maker juul suspending the sale of its fruity ecigarette flavors. But it sells mint, and tobacco flavors. So far 73 people are known to have died from vapingrelated lung disease. Vaping rose 67 among children and young adults. Suicide was the second leading cause of death. 47,000 americans died by suicide in 2017. The food and Drug Administration setting an alltime record for generic drug approvals. The Agency Approved 1,000 drugs. Under the trump administration, there have been three years increase. Joining us, director health and Human Services, alex azar. Lets start with the generic drug approvals. Thats a remarkable record. What is driving that . Its President Trumps leadership. He told us approve these gentlemen freshic drugs because competition lowers prices. The president is adamant about getting drug prices down. We have three years under the president s leadership historic levels of drug approvals. That mines in the first 18 months, 26 billion of savings of healthcare. That competition stays forever. These changes are causing drug prices to go down. We have seen the biggest decrease in drug prices on the inflation index measure in 51 years. The drug trend when the president took office is down 12 since the president took office in terms of where prices would have been. Lou the president is adamant he wants drug prices down. He wants prices for healthcare down. I dont know that we had a president who introduced the idea of efficiency into healthcare and achieving results certainly in the first term of office. He is dogged in getting drug prices down. He wants list prices down. He wants what people pay out of pocket down. He wants better negotiations in our federal negotiations and he wants toned foreign free riding. He commissioned me to get that done and its delivering results. The United States overpays for its drugs and our western high economy competitors under pay for their drugs. The United States sync year citizen is paying for the intravenous drugs, we are paying almost twice what the average western developed democracy pays. We are subsidizing socialism in other countries. They are getting a free ride off of us because we are being chusmed in overpaying. Lou another example of what the president is talking about this country being a patsy for the rest of the world. Exactly. When has a president said we are going to stop overpaying and make others pay their fair share. Lou this will be a Central Point of the campaign of 2020 because it affects every citizen of this country. Healthcare. And democrats obviously from moving towards socialism in all aspects, but talking about socialized medicine without reservation. Your thoughts . Medicare for all would be medicare for none. It is really interesting. The same people who presented this utopian vision of obamacare, that it would solve all the worlds problem and get rid of the uninsured. They admit obamacare failed to deliver. What have they done instead of coming to markets and putting the patient at the center, a sue toian one size fits all vision of the American People for the takeover of healthcare. It will undermine medicare for our seniors. What President Trump a couple weeks ago said, he will be the bulwark. He will defend americas seniors, their medicare. He will pro ticket, he will protect what works. He will make it better and he will fix whats broken in our system. Lou there is so much that is broken when it comes to drugs and to me there is a no more tragic example than the opiate crisis that hope any we see being resolved. The number of overdoses extraordinary. Where are we in getting that under control and trying restore broken lives. Thanks to President Trumps leader ships a whole of government approach. We have a long way to go because it took a while to get into this crisis. For the first time in decades we have seen Drug Overdose deaths dee klein by 5 . Since the president took office we reduced opioid prescribing by 31 . We have a 378 increase so we are getting people in educationassisted treatment which is the Gold Standard for getting people out of addiction and putting them into longterm recovery. Lou so much that is exciting thats happening in healthcare, whether it be immune therapy, targeted therapies being developed. The deregulation, if you will, to provide drugs to people at a faster rate than ever before. And deregulation. The effect of those efforts is already showing up. Your thoughts as we conclude here . It is showing results. At hhs we are onethird of the u. S. Government in terms of budget spending. We delivered 12. 6 billion of regulatory savings. Thats burden relieved on the private sector. This year the many already over 10 billion. We have cut bureaucracy that freed up 40 million hours of doctors time in america to be with patients by getting rid of red tape. Lou 40 million hours. We are facing a doctor shortage so this is a timely win. Mr. Secretary, great talking with you. Great work, if i may say. Thank you very much. Lou thank you for all you are doing for the country. Secretary azar, hhs, a third our government right there. Thanks so much. The explosive allegations about former Deputy Attorney general rod rosenstein. His efforts to take down President Trump. But according to a new book written by james b. Stuart, there is more to this deep state than some of us recognize. Or choose to recognize. He will persuade me, certainly next. Stay with us. To the outside world, you look good, but you dont feel good. With polycythemia vera, pv, symptoms can change so slowly over time you might not notice. But new or changing symptoms can mean your pv is changing. Lets change the way we see pv. You track and discuss blood counts with your doctor. But its just as vital to discuss changing symptoms as well. Take notice and take action. Discuss counts and symptoms with your doctor. Visit takeactionpv. Com lou joining us tonight, Pulitzer Prize winning author james b. Stewart, the deep state trump, the fbi and the rule of law. James, its great to have you here. Congratulations on the book. You and i have a different perspective on the deep state and the two parties. But i think as usual, you have written a book that compels attention, provokes thought, and devil take the hindmost of. Im an investigative reporter, not partisan. I try to uncover facts and let people make up their own mind. To me this is one of the most of dramatic stories in modern history. It its the president against deeply entrenched organizations. The outcome we are watching unfold in realtime. Lou this must have driven you somewhat mad having to deal with ongoing developments as you come to the close of your book was this case it appears will stay open for some period of time. Lets go to the u to the inct point of this corruption story. When do you see this as having begun. Ways the incipient point at which wrong was done. I start with the email investigation and what led into that. One of the things i think i can do in this book is put things we learned about at random as journalists found out by the and put it in chronological order. You see the cause and effect. Its like a long series of dominoes and extraordinary events. It starts with clinton using the server to transmit classified information. Then the dominoes follow an extraordinary pattern. He likes comey when he reopens the clinton administration. But when he gets into russia and hes pursuing the investigation, he doesnt like that. You see the fundamental clash between a Political Animal in trump and the nonpartisan bureaucrat in comey. They were destined to have mortal combat. Lou you write about the entrenched republican enclave within the fbi. Or enclaves as comey describes it to you when most of of us are focusing on the leftwing elements, whether its strzok and page or mccabe at all. It is a bureau that is it seems more vulnerable and susceptible than any of us would have imagined previously to political corruption. Animated in whether we follow your view of the deep state or anyone elses. It is a deeply troubled fbi. I think there is no question the fbi and the people tonight are in many ways a mirror of the society we live in. It is more polarized the same way america as a whole is probably more polarized. I have known fbi agents by entire reporting career. Fbi agents are free to have whatever political beliefs they want like any other american. But they are not free to let those beliefs interfere with the discharge their official execute why is. Thats the question. Have those views spilled over . I would say for the most of part they have not. But there is a group that were critical of clinton and some that were critical of trump. The fbi was investigating both candidates. So how those views then affected the investigative process became deeply relevant. And those are still under investigation. But i have to say, i feel there is tremendous integrity on the part of most of people in the fbi. And what trump has called the deep state, steve bannon pointed out, and i agree with him on this. This is the entrenched bureaucracy. Its not democratic or republican issue. But when trump challenges their role in the Constitutional Order they will fight back. It isnt in this case just simply a political contest or a conflict of interest whether entrenched bureaucrats or not. This is for the first time in our history as far as i know, the first time we have evidence that the entire Intelligence Community leadership notably, clapper, brennan, comey, had a role in setting forth the resources of the federal government, its counterintelligence divisions, as well as domestic fbi operations that had one target. And that was the president of the United States as candidate and subsequently as president elect and president. That deeply troubles me and i cant quite dismiss it. They couldnt dismiss the allegations. I think when you see the story in context. The idea they are all arrayed against trump is a fundamental police understanding. Trump did win the election. They were sitting on a bombshell. This horrible steele dossier and these allegations. Lou which was discredited. If they wanted to leak that. Look what the media did with it when they did finally get it. If that had come out during the campaign it would have been a disaster for the Trump Campaign and the election. You can see the facts in here and i think people can draw their own conclusions. Lou we recommend this book to you highly. The book is deep state, trump, the fbi, the rule of law. Fascinating view from the perceptive eyes of just b. Stuart. D of james james b. Stewart. There is more to come obviously. Thanks so much. Great to see you. We have known each other for more than just a few years. President trump vowing to tear into the radical left impeachment inquiry. [phone ringing] how are we doing . Fabulous. I wonder how the firms doing without its fearless leader. You sure you want to leave that all behind . Yeah. Stay restless, with the icon that does the same. The new rx crafted by lexus. Lease the 2020 rx 350 all wheel drive for 439 month for 36 months. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. 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I have got to start with where we are right now in what is a clear attempt on the part of the radical dimms to unseat a president and doing so without any of the protocols and traditions of fair play and due process that always accompanied in three instances the attempt to launch an investigation for impeachment of a president. You are exactly right, lou. We have never seen anything like this. Behind closed doors, all hidden from the American Peoples eyes. Adam schiff, we know the story. Nancy pelosi, adam schiff, the group of radical leftists in the house of representatives want to beat donald trump at ballot box next year by using impeachment. If you watched the democratic debate youll donald trump will decimate whoever comes out of the democratic primaries. They are using the politics of personal destruction. They did it with the russian collusion, and race youist, and now ukraine. Lou the Republican Leadership in the house of representatives decides to follow along with nancy pelosi. I think they are trying to overthrow him right now. I dont think they want to wait for the election. I completely agree. Getting convicted and removed from office in the senate is very difficult. I think they are trying to do both. Lou i dont know. Mcconnell today said he thought the resolution opposing the president s decision to withdraw our troops was good. Are you kidding me . Lindsey graham wants to be his Worst Nightmare . I wouldnt be and gwyn d i woule sanguin at all about the senate. The white house need to have folks solely focused on making sure they fight this impeachment operation tooth and nail and do not let them breathe. We are watching a president getting hammered every day in the press as he has from 2016 forward. This is it just seems like he is once again, he wins, he prevails, he as. The left and he achieves. And the left, the rinos cant stand the fact that this president is leading the nation as no president in modern times has led it. You have to go back to when obama said to medvedev, ill be more flexible once i win reelection. Thats a signal. The pallets of cash to iran for hostages. Joe biden saying on tv, get rid of the prosecutor or you dont get the money. The democrats are solely focused on trying to destroy this president. Do you think the republicans need to do anything about it . We have to fight and fight every single day. Lou up next. An historic president notching another major accomplishment in Foreign Policy. My thoughts on that when we continue. My body is truly powerful. I have the power to lower my blood sugar and a1c. Because i can still make my own insulin. And trulicity activates my body to release it like its supposed to. Trulicity is for people with type 2 diabetes. Its not insulin. I take it once a week. It starts acting in my body from the first dose. 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When we heard Vice President pence announce that he and secretary pompeo and Robert Obrien successfully negotiated an immediate ceasefire in syria, i couldnt help but wonder when will the republican rinos and radical dimms learn their lessons of the last three years. The radicals and the dimms alike should be applauding this president for all he accomplished and achieve in record time. But no they cant quite abide the cleared reality that we have an historic president in the white house and hes transforming almost entirely on its own a nation that lost its way three years ago. Hes setting a course to reclaim our National Destiny and making great progress. Peace, prosperity for all, individual liberty. That threatens the corporatists and the global elites. They subvert the trump agenda almost at every turn to ultimately overthrow this president. President trump has won the date and high ground of history, and that they simply cannot abide. Thats it for us tonight. We thank you for being with us. White house press secretary, steffey grisham, and pastor robert jeffress. Follow me on twitter loudobbs and like me on facebook. Thanks for joining us. See you tomorrow. Night from new york. Trish impeachment in secret. President trumps ambassador to the e. U. Gordon sondland telling house investigators that he opposed the president s request to run ukraine policy through his personal lawyer but he went ahead and contacted giuliani anyway. He claims it was giuliani who drew a link between the ukraine investigating the bidens. And the throingt white house. But chief of star mulvaney says none of this is