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Sea. Most certainly being watched the clues lead us to ukraine, where we track down suspects. Are you kidding me . Its the kind of attack they could have triggered away. And its one of the biggest mysteries of our times around the world. People are asking who could have done this, [000 00 00;00] the were on our way to the crime scene. 120 kilometers off the german coast. We plan to die to the spots where the explosion took place and see for ourselves. Could just a few divers have carried out this attack of historic dimensions. Weve charter to dive boat and to professional crew to find out as of isnt yet. So were right at the spot where the 1st attack took place on north stream to south east of going home. The, as im talking to you this, the 5 this red arrow is where we are now. If you zoom in here, you can see this dotted line. Thats the pipeline. We soon realize that nothing goes unnoticed and the baltic, sea military vessels, petrol. These waters constantly the world major powers, keep a close eye on one another. Here, a delta echo. Remember that must be the russian worship back there that we heard about which means are most certainly being watched here the, the scene of the crime, it lies more than 70 meters below the water surface. Thats why we brought along professional divers court specially trained for deep sea tides. Ive been trying to convince myself, its just a normal dive. But i havent quite succeeded because each diver is carrying around 100 kilos worth of equipment for deep sea tides. They need a special gas mixture composed of oxygen, helium, and nitrogen. The a year after the attacks german investigators most promising theory sounds incredible. This spectacular, active sabotage was carried out with the help of a sail boat in germany, the investigations are top secret. At 1st, not even a dozen officials were brief on the details of the investigation. Still we a team from a r d darcia and the tightness papers, along with International Partners managed to find a few answers. The germanys federal chancellor. It is home to a special tax proof room only those with the highest security clearance can enter it. And its here that the heads of germany, secret Service Provide government leaders with reports on terrorism wars and espionage. And it was in this room where not long after the attacks, a tip from the dutch intelligence and Security Service came to light. It claimed that a special forces commando from ukraine blew up the pipelines and that the bombers had used a boat which had departed from Germanys Baltic Sea coast. The search began the we were able to find out that the german investigators had been able to identify the suspect yacht and we were the 1st to report on it. And here it is. The andromeda, the vessel is the german investigators hottest lead to date. A good 15 meters in length. The odd sleeps 10 in 5 cabins. But what connects the boat to the north stream, blast investigator, se traces of the same explosive secured at the crime scene were found inside the drama to heres the reconstruction of events. On september 6th, 2022, a group of 6 people are thought to have kicked off the operation and ross talk. 5 witnesses reports. Seeing a white van arrived at the cities who are due to marina, they are. The crew boarded the yacht and set sail. Witnesses say that 5 men and one woman were on board. Some of them are likely divers, the small stream pine, some slices. Measles, the licks and thick folder must be named gossen spears. Hospitable explosions in the area, whether leaks were upset at 2 o 3 am, an explosion was detected in the pipe bay of north stream to south east of the Danish Island of bourne home. Exactly 17 hours later, 3 more explosions were measured. Just the seconds of part, the blasts were so strong that they were registered by far away sized monitors. 3 days later, another link was discovered in north stream to north stream one was rendered completely inoperable. Just one type of north stream 2 remains intact. Investigations have been launched in germany, sweden, denmark, poland, and russia. In germany, the Public Prosecutor general is heading the proceedings. The legit defenses include anti constitutional sabotage tests itself. You can find on check from this time at any rate. Its an attack of historic dimensions is because it was all targeted against the countrys infrastructure with that has glaring and very far reaching after effects. So we really ought to speak of this as an historic break. It looks like its the kind of attack that in past environments could have triggered a wide range in war. There are many possible culprits and motives for the attack because internationally, few projects where its contemptuous as north street championed by 2 friends, rushes Vladimir Putin and former german chancellor. Gerhard schroeder, the envelope and these, this guy, we need this gas and its the most economical way to get it. And everyone who deals with the Energy Policy knows that 50 biased us oh, this cheap gas quote directly from the board, russian to look meet in germany. A distance of over 1200 kilometers. The pipeline right through the baltic was a kick in the teeth for Eastern European countries who long earned good money from the pipelines running through their territories. Skip this one, im sorry. Ukraine was skeptical right from the start as it for so exactly, walsh. In fact, what happened, name made this bypassing of ukraine and of the countries like poland, which also sold the risks. And because they themselves had pipeline systems which supply gas to western europe time. And again, the us also criticized the north string project, a nord stream to it, simply give russia an opportunity to put more of a stranglehold on ukraine and ukraines economy during this time of tension. And so we were very much against it for geo political purposes. Shortly before russia invaded ukraine, us President Joe Biden threatened to put a stop to the pipeline. If a russian rates that means tanks or troops crossing the border of ukraine again, then there will be no longer north steam to we. We will bring it in. Following the attacks, this highly politicized environment led to the proliferation of various theories. A prominent one comes from seymour hersh. How america took out the north stream pipeline. The famous us journalist says hes uncovered evidence that the us did us, maybe divers planted the explosives under the cover of a needle exercise hearst claims his theory has found a ready audience. Some believe the us is capable of anything, but most experts doubt the credibility of hersheys claims. They note his story is based on just one anonymous source and that some of the details are provably false. The others, theories, focus on another major power, the military extent and height, and thats too much time because thats the same as a game. Do i talk to a lot of experts say russia those who believe russia was behind the sabotage, mainly pointed to the movements of russian ships which they view a suspicious ship from russia is said to have been positioned very close to the sides of the attack. Just days before the explosions occurred, the what is bad enough to presume that russia also planted the explosives . Possibly even employing many submarines. German investigators also analyzed the satellite images to see if theres anything behind the suspicions. But to date, they say theyve seen no proof. The attack was carried out by russian ships. So the german investigators continued to concentrate on the sailing yard and trying to reconstruct its route the after setting sail from rostock. The electorate saboteurs are thought to have made stops that week on the island of including the Danish Islands of on home and christy on zillow and columbia in poland. And we discover the andromeda evidently dropped anchor at some time. Sweden, too. Did anyone see the crew . We aimed to find out and track down one witness. This german yachts smith said he met the enrollment as crew. There were 2 men standing there with short hair. Military, id say really short like buzz cuts, boots and a woman in the background down in a brunette. I saw 6 people in total covered, but they were partly below deck. What do you find with that their, their age as a much younger than i or 40 or so nobody was really young. Defined, kind of guns through that incent home harbor tossed important observed something that quickly needed attention. A 3rd boat needed help ducking. But the electric bombers didnt nothing dizzy. Itll help kind of understood and they made no effort whatsoever to help get a seat. I got spent who sees Something Like that gets off his boat and helps. But they didnt do that. They just stood on the boat and watched after that i approached them and tried to explain that thats not what you do. How did they read that one translated for the other into an Eastern European language. I didnt understand the legit bombers didnt just raise eyebrows and sweden in columbus checked to the harbor. Master remembers the crew arrived in the afternoon and the next morning they cast off again. The flag was german, but the accents were Eastern European. Thats what caught my attention and why i called the border guards. The polish Public Prosecutors Office Confirmed to us that the and drama was here and that its crew was checked out. German investigators figure theres even video footage up the crew in the harbor. But poland has yet to provide them with any images. Clearly, cooperation is lacking. The we meet with the Public Security of state, responsible for coordinating the Country Security and Intelligent Services. He suspects the russians are behind the attacks and isnt convinced by germanys findings and money. Were convinced that there werent any explosives or explosive materials on this. You want to blow, nordstrom 2 or one up with that means this operation, the unit had nothing to do with those incidents. Take effect on the over. Thats as far as i know, they were just people who wanted to enjoy themselves and stuff in them that they have this trip out of purely terroristic character or something. There was no one on it to add even the slightest military or sabotage related training. John. Yeah, im your product as an example of how credible is it that the and drama was chartered by ordinary tourists . Because fig passports were clearly used to rent the yacht. We know that a romanian and double gary and passport were presented. The bulgarian passport was made out in the name of the kind of pope of german investigators figure this has an assumed name. Apparently the skipper of the yacht used this ford passport. Another passport was issued to a man with a common romanian name. The photo was clearly exchanged for another the investigators believe the man who really is depicted in this photo is named of a larry k. Hes thought to hell from ukraine. The photos on social media show him in uniform adding to the controversy. Could this mean a ukrainian soldier took part in the attack . And if so, whose orders was the following . Germanys Public Prosecutor made reference to valeri kay. In a closed meeting. We have succeeded in almost certainly identifying a person who im being very cautious now. Could possibly be an accomplice the we decide to follow the suspects. Traces and look for, but larry k and ukraine to ask him, did you have anything to do with the attacks on the north stream pipelines . Larry, case, grandmother suddenly shows up. I think youve not seen them in a while. Not for awhile. When was the last time . How long ago . Probably a year. Well, facing the defense. You that i dont you serving . No. Yes. And you dont talk to him. You know, only during the real time she calls, he doesnt come home. Know, is it him . Down . Yes. You will hard because this right now hes under pressure from all sides. This is why youre there somewhere. So hes being put down on to amelia. Really, so why is you being pressured like that or something which i dont know it so. Yeah, sorry. I dont want to talk further. His family says that, but larry k was on the front when the attacks on the north stream pipelines took place. We cant reach him to confirm this in the meantime, larry k is said to have protested his innocence to his family. Could it be that someone purposely used his identity and not the traces which lead to him were left to deliberately. Would hardly professional bummer sweep, passport, photos and explosives behind the someone walk the investigators to find these clues minded coefficient in the day formats your owns are to ships my, my professional experience tells me or gives me reason to suspect or feel that its too good to be true, the union or the media whos not to tell you where me that the person who comes from ukraine wasnt motivated by a Russian Secret Service officer to leave those red herrings right from the start. Piece of mind you. Thats purely conjecture. Of course well, well get back to what i need to, to date german investigators clearly believe theres no indication this was a false flag operation. But whoever it was, one things clear. It happened here best to another oxygen flow check on that rubber boot according to our so nor device north stream to should be located some 70 meters below our current location. Theyve reached the sea bed. But where is the pipeline . The divers must use extremely bright lights to make out anything at all. Here it is nort stream to the but wheres the leak . The here are the 1st traces of the explosion. Steel and concrete were simply ripped apart at the pipe burst. The refund on the pipeline is easy to recognize. Its a random meter above the sea floor. The visibility got really bad. All of a sudden the grain was gone and we were at the end of the pipeline at the exit point. You could really see how the metal was bent outwards at the dive is complicated and risky. The diving team knows the dangers from their daily work. Their verdict, planting explosives here would be tough, but possible and the whether were good to come on a decent co signed or what you could with such a craft. If all else worked, it would be doable. The german investigators have no more doubts either. It could have been done using and got the at the German Federal chance during the criminal police office. The b k presents its latest findings about the north string blasts and the yacht for investigators the explosives used were especially significant and analysis determined h m x, also known as oxygen was employed. Its an explosive use almost exclusively in military applications. With this help identify the culprits octo gain is oxygen isnt an explosive. You can just produce a time in your garage to tell this to show the explosives typically used in terrorist attacks. The ones that can be made from common chemicals by yet oxygen is a relatively complex synthesis because and teases the size. That means the terrace to blow up the pop line must have forced it from somewhere for the top. Now pieces of the mangled pipeline light spread over hundreds of meters on the sea floor. The magnitude of the devastation, race, doubts in the press as to whether an ordinary ceiling out could have a week such havoc weve been modeling them both my colleagues in germany and in california. And what, how much would we actually need of the explosive sion to produce what were seeing in the data . We are saying now that you definitely need less than 50 kilos of explosives to produce the pattern that were observing. Its also findings like these bit of let the andromeda to remain the german investigators hottest lead so they follow the clues pertaining to the way it was rented. The yacht was booked via email. The german investigators believe that this email was also sent by a man from ukraine. We decide to follow the money hoping that will lead us to the culprits. The rental was paid for by a Company Based in warsaw. This is where fear the i live over a firm that ostensibly makes its money from tourism should be located. Officially the firm is headed by 2 women. But according to our research, theyre likely just acting as products. We find evidence of a man who has possibly behind the company is name ruth stem a. Hes ukrainian and does business with the ukranian government . Is he really the head of the company that rented the enrollment to the we suspect that were stem a as in kia, our team from a r d and su deutscher, indeed, site newspapers try to speak with the re stem a lives in a neighborhood with tight security we wait by the entrance to his courtyard until he appears. Hi. Can i have 5 minutes of your time . Are you kidding me . The does re stem a have something to do with the attacks on north stream. He did, he left the payment for the rental run through his company. The clues are increasingly leading to ukraine. Will they end there . And if they do, was the bombing a private operation, or what the ukranian state involved in some way, the 3 months before the explosions, the b, n. D. Germanys for an Intelligent Service was warned by the netherlands that an attack on north stream had been planned back in june. After the attacks this warning finally reached the chancellors office. In hindsight, it looks like a prophecy. The warning mentioned a boat and fig passports and the general, but larrys allusion. A commander in chief of Ukraines Armed forces was said to be involved apparently the c i a was aware of the plan to attack and warranty crane against it. Saying, if youre planning something dumped, did ukraine do it any way and launch an attack on germanys gas supply for the German Government . Any evidence of ukrainian involvement is sensitive, because its germany supports ukraine, with weapons and billions of yours, and its more with russia. But why would ukraine take such a risk . Especially in the middle of a war . The Ukrainian Government didnt answer our questions, but the president himself has publicly denied his country, had any involvement in the sabotage range. And it wasnt ukraine. People only assert that to slow down a to us, the more that will great. Since the German Government wont comment on potential culprits, the vice chancellor says everything is still to be a vendor shuttle is it turns out that ukraine digit will they still be more weapons deliveries is really i dont want to speculate on that and im not allowed to either thats for the Public Prosecutor to clear out. The german chancellor lock shorts declined interview requests and didnt apply to written requests. A year on investigators are still looking for the sabotage who bombed to north stream pipelines and those who ordered them to do it. It remains a case against persons on know what is known. Is that the and drama to return to russ talking a little more than 2 weeks after it, but to see and the electorate saboteurs simply vanished. They didnt even come to collect their Security Deposit of several 1000 bureaus. There are clues which point to people from ukraine. Yet it remains far from clear who set sail on the andromeda in september 2022. And what really happened on board and on the sea for many countries and individuals had a motive to blow up the north stream pipelines. But the search continues the depression, bipolar disorder, Mental Health issues like these. Ive seen asked about topics in many african society. Youll applicants to struggling with that Mental Health i left to their own devices in the past, and people have stuck to these misconceptions about Mental Health. 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