far down the river nearing crazy colonel kerts. you can be against citizens united and refuse to lose a post citizens united world. i love principles, but in politics, the principle that matters most is victory. napalm smells like victory, money smells like victory. a philosophical aversion to donating big money smells like defeat taking the high brow on campaign finance smells like defeat. romney and the super pacs run by his mega wealthy friends are bigging a large financial advantage. they have no spiritual dilemma about the new rules. but toure, they have no rules. citizens united changed the world. what are we going to do about it? are we going to play some golf or are we going to screw around? >> i totally agree with you, personally. i mean, i think on this particular issue, you have to play by the rules of the game as they exist. >> yes. >> or else you're not really playing. >> the problem here, i think, is