>> eric: lordy. >> eric: if he's willing to say that definitively, i don't know. i can't see a situation where comey is right and trump lied. >> eboni: they are going to make the argument that other is interpreting. the tapes, eric, will let all of us, the john q public -- >> eric: i can't believe he would go out there and produced tapes. >> eboni: he didn't mean it like that. >> katherine: all right bro let's meet today's specialist. he was named a mover and shaker in a campaign election magazine. he's the founder of wpa intelligence, also the former director of ted cruz for president, and he specializes in politics and public affairs. chris wilson is here. and he is the former host of fox news channels "redeye," he's a barbershop singer with jimmy fallon's ragtime gal's
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