not mcdonald's, the defendant's hairs, that were found six years ago and could have been identified or at least recognized as not belonging to the defendant. now, i'm going to ask you something, if someone were in your house in the last year, is it quite possible they might have left dna, the rug cleaner of someone who came in to deliver something that, is not indicative of whether or not mcdonald committed the crime. i'll tell you what is. number one, his two daughters and his pregnant wife were stabbed with steak knives and ice picks. okay? many, many times. he was just cut with one knife, one time. he says there was this big fight in the living room. the only thing that's upset in the living room is a table is overturned. but what he's saying now, and what you heard is his wife reference is the fact that they have a belief that because of these hairs and because several people who they say said x, y and z are not available that