him people thing. the fact that she would then be behind closed doors and wants to see them in jail, that suggests that there's criminal activity there which would be a reason to pursue impeachment and then just makes her decisions look like they are political and not as substantive. it's difficult to play both characters, one behind closed doors and the public and that's why she didn't want to talk about that which completely undercuts what she's been saying publicly. >> it underscores what a tight rope she is walking right here because she needs to on the one hand show how seriously she's taking this, how she actually is in pursuit of real tangible information about what the president has done. on the other hand, if you come out to corrine's point and say i want him in jail or many people think there are crimes, if you really think there is something there, why aren't you following much of your caucus and trying to move forward on this already? what more information do you need, and that seemed to have been a moment behind closed doors, yes, where she may have pushed a little bit too far