being part of the process. and there is no procedures that were set up before hand. that was a problem with the thomas hearing and i guarantee you that will be a problem playing out next week is there are no -- >> let me follow up on that point. because anita hill, if you read her opinion piece in the "new york times" yesterday, she makes the point even after her highly publicized testimony, the senate judiciary committee still does not have a protocol how to handle these assault claims. it has been 27 years. why hasn't that happened? >> they didn't anticipate it would be my first -- >> that is not a good enough answer. that is not a good enough answer. >> well, i'm definitely not defending the process by any stretch. in fact just the opposite. i don't think -- i do not think that you will get a fair process out of a judiciary committee hearing for these kind of issues and individual's claim. by no means.