ago -- i don't have the exact quote, but he spoke about the need to separate, if people come in illegally, they've got children, you know what, this is going to be a get tough policy and we're going to separate these kids from their -- >> so did -- >> that was more than a year ago that kelly did it. and then earlier this year, the policy unfolded at the department of homeland security and the justice department, they all got onboard. >> so obama talked about this. jeh johnson talked about it on his watch, but you've got this albadoss decision, i think that's the name of the decision, that there's a time period that you can hold a minor. and the law is the law. so you have to rely upon the justice department, if they change a policy, to make sure it doesn't run into existing law. what happened here? the policy change ran into long-standing legal principles that were pretty obvious, if you wanted to look. >> is it the role of the attorney general of the united states to cover up crimes committed by republicans who supported the president? >> no. >> but you saw the tweets from