crime-ridden streets of tallahassee. what? has he been tallahassee. maybe if he left the golf course in florida, in southern florida, he would see -- >> ouch. ouch. he's too busy vacationing. >> go ahead, ben, close us out. >> when the president talks about crime, let's be clear, it is not just -- this is the part where i say, let's take a bigger look at this. the president attacks a lot of people that are white and also republican. and if you don't believe me, look at the debate we have been having about john mccain. >> yes. >> there are numbers on this. >> this president is an equal opportunity offender against people he disagrees with regardless of their political party, regardless of the race. so i don't think it has anything to do with race. it's a good talking point but not reality. >> all right, we got to go. >> look at the numbers. it's disproportionate. he disproportionately attacks black people. >> we'll leave it.