we don't get sufficient training on whether or not they should confiscate weapons, search without warrant, detain american citizens. >> reporter: here in upstate new york, an old hand, bob shultz, has been preaching anti-government rhetoric for 30 years and he's gotten in trouble trying to convince people they don't need to pay taxes. he sees the new movement on the right not as a threat but a liberating return to freedom. >> it's thrilling after 30 years to see so many individuals and groups springing up and beginning to talk about the constitution. >> reporter: all three share views that are not mainstream, but bleisch insists the conspiracy theories aren't so wacky if you learn the truth behind them. is the g preparing fema camps? >> yes, hr-645. >> you believe, to intern u.s. citizens? >> i don't know. i hope not. >> reporter: that last one, that the government is preparing political internment camps, is growing in popularity. largely because of this