african-americans side by side. 16.5% for african-americans. 8.7%, nearly twice as high for african-americans. and that's what the story is all about. that's why there is concern by reverend al sharpton and others in the black community, wolf. >> lisa, thanks very much. let's bring in the reverend al sharpton, founder and president of the national action network. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> why does this disparity still exist? >> i think many reasons. you have the structural inequality historically, but you have a mixture of the problems right now. first fired, last hired, some of the unions not being fair. what we wanted to do today, the president of the national urban league, of the naacp and i in meeting with the president are saying labor leader and business leaders have been part of the discussion, civil rights leaders need to be part of the discussion. >> what did he tell you? >> he said wasn't to make sure